(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:06 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 01:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-08-2014 08:35 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Lock yourself in your room with some hetero porn for a weekend. You'll change.

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So if you were locked in a room for a weekend with a bunch of gay porn...you'd turn gay?

That doesn't surprise me...

Why would I want to do that? You are the one who says you can't live a natural lifestyle.

One's sexual orientation isn't about nature...your sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle", It's simply part of who you are.

The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:59 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:50 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  So wait.

You can do anything you want in your life, so long as you say you accept Jesus?

Let me pose this. Christians think that everyone who isn't a Christian is doomed to hell, yes?

Let's look at Buddhists. These people are extremely spiritual. They strive not to hurt any living creature on this earth and are good to all the people they come across.

You say that these incredibly righteous, spiritual, compassionate people are doomed to hell for eternity?

What do you think happened to those that didn't know Jesus because he wasn't born yet? Spartans, ancient civilizations? Jesus didn't come until about 2000 years ago. Where we worship God, a Buddhist worships the form of God they believe in. I don't think they're doomed to hell, but being "nice" isn't going to get you in, nor will money.

So if Buddhists don't go to hell, where do they go?

That's just my opinion about them, I actually have no idea where they go... I never thought to ask that question before. I mean, their idea and scriptures of God may differ from ours, and their idea of Heaven may differ from ours, but in the end, I believe that if we believe and have faith in God (not an idol) then we'll end up in the same place. As far as that goes, their Buddha doll may be equivalent, to them, to the cross we use.

So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:06 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 01:59 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  So if you were locked in a room for a weekend with a bunch of gay porn...you'd turn gay?

That doesn't surprise me...

Why would I want to do that? You are the one who says you can't live a natural lifestyle.

One's sexual orientation isn't about nature...your sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle", It's simply part of who you are.

The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:59 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  What do you think happened to those that didn't know Jesus because he wasn't born yet? Spartans, ancient civilizations? Jesus didn't come until about 2000 years ago. Where we worship God, a Buddhist worships the form of God they believe in. I don't think they're doomed to hell, but being "nice" isn't going to get you in, nor will money.

So if Buddhists don't go to hell, where do they go?

That's just my opinion about them, I actually have no idea where they go... I never thought to ask that question before. I mean, their idea and scriptures of God may differ from ours, and their idea of Heaven may differ from ours, but in the end, I believe that if we believe and have faith in God (not an idol) then we'll end up in the same place. As far as that goes, their Buddha doll may be equivalent, to them, to the cross we use.

So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

It's clear what the 7 deadly sins are. Having to much pride to believe in a power greater than man itself would be difficult to overcome IMO.

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:06 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Why would I want to do that? You are the one who says you can't live a natural lifestyle.

One's sexual orientation isn't about nature...your sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle", It's simply part of who you are.

The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 02:59 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  So if Buddhists don't go to hell, where do they go?

That's just my opinion about them, I actually have no idea where they go... I never thought to ask that question before. I mean, their idea and scriptures of God may differ from ours, and their idea of Heaven may differ from ours, but in the end, I believe that if we believe and have faith in God (not an idol) then we'll end up in the same place. As far as that goes, their Buddha doll may be equivalent, to them, to the cross we use.

So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:02 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  One's sexual orientation isn't about nature...your sexual orientation isn't a "lifestyle", It's simply part of who you are.

The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:16 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  The only people who define themselves by their sexual preferences are the gays.

Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

You know every gay person, and how they define themselves?

(05-09-2014 03:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:09 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  That's just my opinion about them, I actually have no idea where they go... I never thought to ask that question before. I mean, their idea and scriptures of God may differ from ours, and their idea of Heaven may differ from ours, but in the end, I believe that if we believe and have faith in God (not an idol) then we'll end up in the same place. As far as that goes, their Buddha doll may be equivalent, to them, to the cross we use.

So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.

Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.

Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".

(05-09-2014 03:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.

For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.

(05-09-2014 03:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:19 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Oh, goodie...the broad brush statements!

He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

You know every gay person, and how they define themselves?

You should've had a V8 this morning.

How do heteros define themselves?

(05-09-2014 03:41 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.

Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.

Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".

How do you define "good"?

(05-09-2014 03:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.

For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.

And those who are LGBT are defined as such. Are you not understanding what I'm saying?

(05-09-2014 03:43 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:41 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.

Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.

Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".

How do you define "good"?

I've described it multiple times.

Compassionate, loving, kind, righteous, spiritual.

A person who does unto others as he would have them do unto him.

(05-09-2014 03:44 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.

For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.

And those who are LGBT are defined as such. Are you not understanding what I'm saying?

being gay or straight is part of who you are, but no one thing defines you. Are you not understanding what I'm saying?

(05-09-2014 03:42 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

You know every gay person, and how they define themselves?

You should've had a V8 this morning.

How do heteros define themselves?

It would depend on the person...

(05-09-2014 03:42 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:36 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  He's right. LGBT defines homos. There isn't a group to define heteros.

lol, not all gay people have high pitch voices, limp wrists, and march in pride rallies...just like not everyone from the south is a rural-country, conservative.

Why are you telling me? I never said they did. I said they define themselves as LGBT...

It is simply who they are... that is what I keep hearing.

For some, that is who they are...for some, it's not.

I didn't say all gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I said only gays define themselves by their sexual preferences. I've never met anyone and within the introduction said "I am heterosexual". Most gays I have come across have made a point to let me know it before we even got to news, weather, and sports.

(05-09-2014 03:41 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:34 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:24 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:23 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-09-2014 03:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  So... You can be as spiritual, compassionate, and righteous as a Buddhist, but if you don't accept a deity, you go to hell?

If you don't accept God's son.

So a person can spend their entire life giving to charity and being kind to everyone he meets, but because he doesn't conform to Christianity, he's doomed to eternal damnation.

And this is from the "all knowing and all forgiving" God?

Yes, and yes. Being nice and kind and rich does not get you into Heaven. I didn't make the rules, I just do my best to follow them. And before the end of time comes, we'll all know the name of God. The reason for that is so that we can all choose which path we want to take. The path to Heaven is long and narrow, fairly boring for lots of people, while the pathway to hell is wide open and full of wicked desire that sucks you in. Believing and trusting in God is your only lifeline when you fall off the path.

Well, I'll stick to my spirituality that treats all human beings equally and fairly.

Thanks, though. I can't believe in a God that would choose to punish good people and "his children".

Then you need to learn the difference between personality and spirituality because without God in your life, you don't have spirituality. I'm not here to preach to you and pull you to the good side since I, too, am a sinner, I'm simply answering the questions you keep asking. If you don't want to believe in God then, as a grown man capable of making his own decisions, that's your option, but you know he's there and the opportunity has presented itself. We can't have everything handed to us on a platinum platter. Some things are unattainable without exerting at least SOME effort.