(03-06-2014 04:40 PM)john01992 Wrote:  they are in the bottom tier among FBS schools for both endowment & academic rankings

Academic endowment of $150 million. Top 10 engineering program, Top 10 Computer Science program. Nearing $100 million dollars in research annually.

they come from a state that hasn't been fully invested in them the past few years

A state that hasn't been investing in ANY universities.

they only have a 16k enrollment which is below average for both the mac & cusa

2nd largest university in the state at 18K students and growing, projected to have 20K students by 2016. In a state that has a population of 4.5 million and in a state that has 14 public 4 year universities.

(03-08-2014 04:49 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:24 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Every time I check this board, there is a new thread picking on ULL. What's up with that? I'm not a ULL fan, but I just don't understand the need to harass their fans. They know the obstacles their program faces. Every program has some issues. Give these guys a break.

Because Tulane fans have their panties in a wad because Louisiana is using a name they lost 150 years ago when they became private and that UL matters way more then Tulane in Louisiana athletics

It's not just Tulane fans. About the only thing ALL the other schools in Louisiana can agree on is that ULL is bogus for trying to call themselves "Louisiana", as if they are the state flagship or something.

NOBODY else, from Grambling to LSU, from Northwestern State to Tulane, agrees with that. Nobody.

(03-08-2014 05:17 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I just don't know why anyone would want to stir up arguments if they don't have to.

Have you been here before?

(03-08-2014 05:53 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Top 10 engineering program, Top 10 Computer Science program.

Wait. What? Are we still talking about UL-L here?

(03-08-2014 05:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:49 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:24 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Every time I check this board, there is a new thread picking on ULL. What's up with that? I'm not a ULL fan, but I just don't understand the need to harass their fans. They know the obstacles their program faces. Every program has some issues. Give these guys a break.

Because Tulane fans have their panties in a wad because Louisiana is using a name they lost 150 years ago when they became private and that UL matters way more then Tulane in Louisiana athletics

It's not just Tulane fans. About the only thing ALL the other schools in Louisiana can agree on is that ULL is bogus for trying to call themselves "Louisiana", as if they are the state flagship or something.

NOBODY else, from Grambling to LSU, from Northwestern State to Tulane, agrees with that. Nobody.

We really don't give a damn what you or anyone else thinks about it...and that is what drives you nuts....

(03-08-2014 07:10 PM)prp Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 05:53 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Top 10 engineering program, Top 10 Computer Science program.

Wait. What? Are we still talking about UL-L here?

Top 10 Petrolium Eng Program
...and again

(03-08-2014 05:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:49 PM)FuzzyHasek Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 04:24 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  Every time I check this board, there is a new thread picking on ULL. What's up with that? I'm not a ULL fan, but I just don't understand the need to harass their fans. They know the obstacles their program faces. Every program has some issues. Give these guys a break.

Because Tulane fans have their panties in a wad because Louisiana is using a name they lost 150 years ago when they became private and that UL matters way more then Tulane in Louisiana athletics

It's not just Tulane fans. About the only thing ALL the other schools in Louisiana can agree on is that ULL is bogus for trying to call themselves "Louisiana", as if they are the state flagship or something.

NOBODY else, from Grambling to LSU, from Northwestern State to Tulane, agrees with that. Nobody.

Nevada-Reno and Cal-Berkley had the same kind fight with UNLV and UCLA
Louisiana, UCLA and UNLV changed their names to separate themselves from the pack

Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

He is hellbent on trying to slander and accomplishment that the Cajuns have made over the last three years. This guy harbors more ill will toward Louisiana than any LSU, ULM or La Tech poster that I have come across.

(03-09-2014 10:41 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

He is hellbent on trying to slander and accomplishment that the Cajuns have made over the last three years. This guy harbors more ill will toward Louisiana than any LSU, ULM or La Tech poster that I have come across.

The name thing has been beaten to death and wears people out.
One school in Louisiana should have that name it makes a difference.
Not trying to offend anyone but if Texas ST and Arkansas St are peers with ULL or ULM it still sounds better. Texas St getting the name change is a big deal going forward. I have no idea if ULL is better than ULM and don't care.

So since Tulane gave up the name who gets it because one school should. I bet MTSU wish they had Tennessee St or Coastal SC ST.
What school deserves it the most even if you consider it a contest for tallest midget . How many schools have an interest in having that name?

(03-09-2014 12:09 PM)MJG Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 10:41 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

He is hellbent on trying to slander and accomplishment that the Cajuns have made over the last three years. This guy harbors more ill will toward Louisiana than any LSU, ULM or La Tech poster that I have come across.

The name thing has been beaten to death and wears people out.
One school in Louisiana should have that name it makes a difference.
Not trying to offend anyone but if Texas ST and Arkansas St are peers with ULL or ULM it still sounds better. Texas St getting the name change is a big deal going forward. I have no idea if ULL is better than ULM and don't care.

So since Tulane gave up the name who gets it because one school should. I bet MTSU wish they had Tennessee St or Coastal SC ST.
What school deserves it the most even if you consider it a contest for tallest midget . How many schools have an interest in having that name?

To answer your question, there has been one school who wants that name and 13 other who don't want us to have it.

(03-09-2014 01:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  To answer your question, there has been one school who wants that name and 13 other who don't want us to have it.

You'd seem to be outnumbered, then. Maybe you could do a logroll with ULM, letting them be Louisiana University if you can be the University of Louisiana (or visa versa) ...

... though being Lafayette University would be an upgrade to a name that sounds like a branch campus of a larger school.

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

While I've noted why in some savacool threads, its straightforward to do an empirical study of threads savacool has started, and the "why" becomes clear enough without having to talk it through in each one of them.

(03-09-2014 04:09 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 01:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  To answer your question, there has been one school who wants that name and 13 other who don't want us to have it.

You'd seem to be outnumbered, then. Maybe you could do a logroll with ULM, letting them be Louisiana University if you can be the University of Louisiana (or visa versa) ...

... though being Lafayette University would be an upgrade to a name that sounds like a branch campus of a larger school.

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

While I've noted why in some savacool threads, its straightforward to do an empirical study of threads savacool has started, and the "why" becomes clear enough without having to talk it through in each one of them.

The state of Louisiana has already separated all of the universities into three categories.

1. Flagship: Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College of Baton Rouge

2 Statewide: Louisiana Tech, The University of Louisiana @ Lafayette and University of New Orleans

3. Regional: University of Louisiana @ Monroe, Northwestern State, Grambling, LSU Shreveport, LSU Alexandria, McNeese State, Southern, Nicholls State, Southeastern La, Southern University of New Orleans

So there already has been a distinction made by the state.

If you want to rank them by enrollment it would go as follows:
1. LSU @ 29,549
2. Louisiana @ 16,885
3. Southeastern La @ 15,602
4. La Tech @ 11,014
5. UNO @ 9825
6. Northwestern St @ 9,244
7. McNeese St. @ 8,791
8. ULM @ 8405
9. Southern @ 7,313
10. Nicholls State @ 7,093
11. Grambling State @ 4,994

Endowment:
1. LSU @ $692 million
2. Louisiana @ $144 million
3. La Tech @ $93.7 million
4. Southeastern La @ $30.5 million
5. ULM @ $23.1 million
6. UNO @ $19.7 million

Any other reasons you need?

(03-09-2014 04:09 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 01:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  To answer your question, there has been one school who wants that name and 13 other who don't want us to have it.

You'd seem to be outnumbered, then. Maybe you could do a logroll with ULM, letting them be Louisiana University if you can be the University of Louisiana (or visa versa) ...

... though being Lafayette University would be an upgrade to a name that sounds like a branch campus of a larger school.

(03-08-2014 09:01 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Why did Savacool need to make this thread? What the hell is it trying to accomplish?

While I've noted why in some savacool threads, its straightforward to do an empirical study of threads savacool has started, and the "why" becomes clear enough without having to talk it through in each one of them.

There's a Lafayette College (Patriot League) located in Pennsylvania.

(03-08-2014 03:11 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(03-07-2014 03:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  The Patriot League core is a half step down from Rice. The Ivy and UAA are their peers.

I'd put Rice below the Ivy.

You can put Rice wherever you like, but these are the schools that Rice travels with for prospective-student, informational events.

exploringeducationalexcellence.org

Quote:They would be a lower tier UAA team.

Yeah, right.

(03-09-2014 06:31 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  The state of Louisiana has already separated all of the universities into three categories.

1. Flagship: Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College of Baton Rouge

2 Statewide: Louisiana Tech, The University of Louisiana @ Lafayette and University of New Orleans

3. Regional: University of Louisiana @ Monroe, Northwestern State, Grambling, LSU Shreveport, LSU Alexandria, McNeese State, Southern, Nicholls State, Southeastern La, Southern University of New Orleans

So there already has been a distinction made by the state.

However, the willingness to make that distinction is greater than what was reported above regarding the willingness to let ULL have a name that sounds like ULM is a branch campus of ULL.

(03-09-2014 07:30 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 06:31 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  The state of Louisiana has already separated all of the universities into three categories.

1. Flagship: Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College of Baton Rouge

2 Statewide: Louisiana Tech, The University of Louisiana @ Lafayette and University of New Orleans

3. Regional: University of Louisiana @ Monroe, Northwestern State, Grambling, LSU Shreveport, LSU Alexandria, McNeese State, Southern, Nicholls State, Southeastern La, Southern University of New Orleans

So there already has been a distinction made by the state.

However, the willingness to make that distinction is greater than what was reported above regarding the willingness to let ULL have a name that sounds like ULM is a branch campus of ULL.

Is UCLA a branch campus of UC Berkeley? Louisiana is also just a branding initiative for athletics. Louisiana Monroe has chosen to brand themselves as ULM after a failed attempt at the Louisiana Indians. Everyone honors ULM's request, yet give Louisiana Ragin Cajuns all kinds of grief for pushing the use of Louisiana.

The legal name of the school is The University of Louisiana at Lafayette. They will likely never change unless I become governor and then I will make it happen.

But that will never happen either so it is a moot point.

(03-09-2014 07:30 PM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(03-09-2014 06:31 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  The state of Louisiana has already separated all of the universities into three categories.

1. Flagship: Louisiana State University and Agricultural and Mechanical College of Baton Rouge

2 Statewide: Louisiana Tech, The University of Louisiana @ Lafayette and University of New Orleans

3. Regional: University of Louisiana @ Monroe, Northwestern State, Grambling, LSU Shreveport, LSU Alexandria, McNeese State, Southern, Nicholls State, Southeastern La, Southern University of New Orleans

So there already has been a distinction made by the state.

However, the willingness to make that distinction is greater than what was reported above regarding the willingness to let ULL have a name that sounds like ULM is a branch campus of ULL.

Also, few know that ULM was once a junior college and decided on it's own to become a 4 year institution without a legal vote from the Board of Regents or the state legislature.