(02-19-2014 04:09 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 03:15 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I don't know if CJP yelling at the refs or the players elicits much response. You see the emotions on his face, but his voice is so soft and "hoarse" sounding it just isn't threatening or intimidating and doesn't seem to command much attention. Maybe he realizes it is not a strength of his so he tailors his style differently (or doesn't like being hoarse until the next game). But if somebody with a voice like James Earl Jones yelled at the refs even the crowd would silence to stop and listen to what he had to say.

After hearing the entire season how I'm not at the games and don't know; I can clearly call b******t on anyone who says this. Pastner was in their ear constantly; mostly from on the court, and he had refs on his side of the court the whole time.

He was yelling at them, laughing, trying to reason with them, etc...obviously nothing worked.

It's just an opinion, nothing to get worked up about. I've heard him yell plenty and to me at least, he does not have an intimidating voice that commands much attention, particularly when he is trying to yell over a screaming crowd.

(02-19-2014 04:35 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 04:09 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 03:15 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  I don't know if CJP yelling at the refs or the players elicits much response. You see the emotions on his face, but his voice is so soft and "hoarse" sounding it just isn't threatening or intimidating and doesn't seem to command much attention. Maybe he realizes it is not a strength of his so he tailors his style differently (or doesn't like being hoarse until the next game). But if somebody with a voice like James Earl Jones yelled at the refs even the crowd would silence to stop and listen to what he had to say.

After hearing the entire season how I'm not at the games and don't know; I can clearly call b******t on anyone who says this. Pastner was in their ear constantly; mostly from on the court, and he had refs on his side of the court the whole time.

He was yelling at them, laughing, trying to reason with them, etc...obviously nothing worked.

It's just an opinion, nothing to get worked up about. I've heard him yell plenty and to me at least, he does not have an intimidating voice that commands much attention, particularly when he is trying to yell over a screaming crowd.

I apologize; this wasn't directed at you at all. It was more for the guys that insist that he doesn't work the officials.

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 11:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:09 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 04:21 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Fouls Before The Tech
9 Kentucky
14 Florida

Fouls After The Tech
8 Kentucky
2 Florida

Uhhhhhh...cough...cough...fact.

Go back and check the thread Stammers in regard to what I said about Fact.

Cough, there wasn't a 29 free throw margin in that game either.

There wasn't a free throw margin of 29 only because there were only 8 minutes left in the game when Cal got the tech. The refs didn't do us any favours when Cal was here; especially in big games, so I don't see any basis in fact with what you said.

I'm not going to re-read the thread for you.

Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

(02-19-2014 05:19 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 11:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:09 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Go back and check the thread Stammers in regard to what I said about Fact.

Cough, there wasn't a 29 free throw margin in that game either.

There wasn't a free throw margin of 29 only because there were only 8 minutes left in the game when Cal got the tech. The refs didn't do us any favours when Cal was here; especially in big games, so I don't see any basis in fact with what you said.

I'm not going to re-read the thread for you.

Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

(02-19-2014 08:04 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 05:19 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 11:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 10:59 AM)Stammers Wrote:  There wasn't a free throw margin of 29 only because there were only 8 minutes left in the game when Cal got the tech. The refs didn't do us any favours when Cal was here; especially in big games, so I don't see any basis in fact with what you said.

I'm not going to re-read the thread for you.

Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

You're a little thick.

(02-19-2014 08:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 08:04 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 05:19 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 11:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I'm not going to re-read the thread for you.

Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

You're a little thick.

I don't agree with that, but that's ok. lets be friends and enjoy and cheer on the Tigers for the stretch run. What do you say?

(02-19-2014 02:15 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  also, I'm sure he is working the refs plenty...him working them plenty doesn't automatically make him good at it. if he worked them a bunch against UConn he didn't do well.

Here's a thought. Maybe the fouls were real. Maybe our guards are getting beat and fouling in recovery. There is no maybe, it's been a common topic of discussion this year.

Our guards did get beat some.

And committed some fouls.

As did their guards. Except the result was 24 free throws in regulation for UConn, 6- or 9 less than the previous low for Memphis in regulation. 36-9 for the game- in a game Memphis shot 15 threes to UConn's 21...in other words, Memphis was creating contact too.

Even the turnovers- what- 18 for Memphis, 6 for them...would have been a more reasonable 15 for Memphis and 9 fr them with any kind of less home cooking hideous Napier slurping refereeing.

(02-15-2014 07:09 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  If Cal was coaching that game today, no way there is such a free throw discrepancy. Fact.

If Cal was coaching that game today, we'd just be coming off a 4-year-long NCAA "death penalty" due to complete lack of program control!

(02-19-2014 10:48 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 02:15 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  also, I'm sure he is working the refs plenty...him working them plenty doesn't automatically make him good at it. if he worked them a bunch against UConn he didn't do well.

Here's a thought. Maybe the fouls were real. Maybe our guards are getting beat and fouling in recovery. There is no maybe, it's been a common topic of discussion this year.

Yes, maybe we commit more fouls than every team UConn has played, and maybe we cause less fouls than every team UConn has played. That makes perfect sense.

(02-19-2014 08:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 08:04 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 05:19 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 11:58 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  I'm not going to re-read the thread for you.

Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

You're a little thick.

Stammers, sit by me the next time I'm in town for a home game, we'll come away better friends. Great seats..."it's all good"

(02-20-2014 12:01 AM)Mimi Wrote:  Our guards did get beat some.

And committed some fouls.

As did their guards. Except the result was 24 free throws in regulation for UConn, 6- or 9 less than the previous low for Memphis in regulation. 36-9 for the game- in a game Memphis shot 15 threes to UConn's 21...in other words, Memphis was creating contact too.

Even the turnovers- what- 18 for Memphis, 6 for them...would have been a more reasonable 15 for Memphis and 9 fr them with any kind of less home cooking hideous Napier slurping refereeing.

I think that a % of the discrepancy of fouls called were also attributed to the fouls being sold by the UCONN guards...that's an underestimated factor I think. As they are being coached by an former NBA guard. And that phenomenon is a huge part of the NBA now.

(02-20-2014 09:31 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 08:40 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 08:04 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 05:19 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(02-19-2014 12:50 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Glad we agree that your post was ridiculous. Thanks.

Don't read it

You're a little thick.

Stammers, sit by me the next time I'm in town for a home game, we'll come away better friends. Great seats..."it's all good"

That is a very kind offer, and likewise if you ever find yourself in Montreal or Toronto. I have never had a bad experience breaking bread or having drinks with a fellow Tiger fan.