(02-14-2014 03:10 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  If you read what the AAC director of football put on twitter, you would know the divisions are set and the answer is in the 2014 schedule.

Temple
UConn
Cincy
ECU
SMU
UCF
all in one zipper division, with

Navy
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
USF
in the other

Perm xover guesses
UCF USF
SMU Houston
Temple Navy
Cincy Memphis
Uconn Tulane
ECU Tulsa

1. Michael Costa on Twitter said: "No [final] decision made on divisonal alignment yet. We have an idea, but details still need to be worked out."

2. Unless he has deleted a tweet, he said nothing about the 2014 schedule holding a key to the 2015 divisions. Earlier, CommuterBob said that Costa alluded to the fact that the 2014 schedule sets up for 2015 divisional alignment. I don't see that.

3. I can find no basis whatsoever in the 2014 schedule to predict zipper divisions as described above. Please elaborate on how you derived them.

Keep it simple

North

UConn
Temple
Cincy
Navy
ECU
UCF


South

Tulsa
Tulane
Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

(02-14-2014 04:12 PM)MichealBond Wrote:  Keep it simple

North

UConn
Temple
Cincy
Navy
ECU
UCF


South

Tulsa
Tulane
Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

ucf north? but memphis south? how is that simple and not geographical messed up

ive come to realize most of you are just making division of what you want as fans of specific teams and not whats likely

(02-14-2014 04:19 PM)pesik Wrote:  ive come to realize most of you are just making division of what you want as fans of specific teams and not whats likely

Several of us are looking at who the schools DON'T PLAY in 2014, and forecasting those teams are in the OPPOSITE DIVISION.

There's only a couple of ways to interpret the 2014 schedule when you do it that way. Here's mine:

UCF
USF
Houston
SMU
Tulsa

East Carolina
Cincy
UConn
Temple
Tulane

Unclear/Either: Memphis & Navy

(02-14-2014 04:19 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 04:12 PM)MichealBond Wrote:  Keep it simple

North

UConn
Temple
Cincy
Navy
ECU
UCF


South

Tulsa
Tulane
Memphis
Houston
SMU
USF

ucf north? but memphis south? how is that simple and not geographical messed up

ive come to realize most of you are just making division of what you want as fans of specific teams and not whats likely

When fans draw these divisions up, they will do whatever they need to do to keep their favorite team out of the CUSA division. That's all you need to know.

(02-14-2014 05:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  When fans draw these divisions up, they will do whatever they need to do to keep their favorite team out of the CUSA division. That's all you need to know.

(02-14-2014 03:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:10 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  If you read what the AAC director of football put on twitter, you would know the divisions are set and the answer is in the 2014 schedule.

Temple
UConn
Cincy
ECU
SMU
UCF
all in one zipper division, with

Navy
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
USF
in the other

Perm xover guesses
UCF USF
SMU Houston
Temple Navy
Cincy Memphis
Uconn Tulane
ECU Tulsa

1. Michael Costa on Twitter said: "No [final] decision made on divisonal alignment yet. We have an idea, but details still need to be worked out."

2. Unless he has deleted a tweet, he said nothing about the 2014 schedule holding a key to the 2015 divisions. Earlier, CommuterBob said that Costa alluded to the fact that the 2014 schedule sets up for 2015 divisional alignment. I don't see that.

3. I can find no basis whatsoever in the 2014 schedule to predict zipper divisions as described above. Please elaborate on how you derived them.

Simple. Look at the 2014 schedule, then look at the alignment I posted. No other division alignment has all of the future division mates playing each other this year while maintaining USF-UCF, Cincy-Memphis, and UH-SMU x overs. If my alignment is correct, the only schedule changes needed for 2015 is to put Navy on all of the 2nd zipper divisions schedule plus 3 crossovers. Minimal future changes is part of Costas message. It also puts one Texas and one Florida school in each division, while weakly clustering the remaining schools by region with Navy stating they wouldn't mind a "western" oriented division. FWIW, this isn't my "preferred" alignment. I would like to have Navy, Houston, and Tulane in a division with UCF instead of UConn, Temple, and SMU primarily for the road trips.

(02-14-2014 01:42 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:58 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:11 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  2) Sending Navy west. This keeps UC and USF in the east. But what is the incentive for Navy to do this.

Who knows, but I've heard Navy is open to that, and might even prefer it.

If they're open to it, then that is a simple solution. I'm just not convinced that they are. I see a zipper or N/S arrangement happening to keep everyone happy (or at least less upset). In an E/W arrangement, someone is going to be unhappy, because there are basically 7 E teams and 5 W teams.

N/S is horrible for all the east coast schools that recruit Florida hard, which is pretty much all of them. Not to mention the fact that the team ECU has the biggest current rivalry with is UCF. I want nothing to do with N/S.

This

At this point I don't really care. Whatever they come up with is what they come with. A schedule will be made and your team will play it. No more bickering about who is going east. At this point a zipper may be best. Let everyone share an equal amount of pain.

(02-14-2014 09:18 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  At this point I don't really care. Whatever they come up with is what they come with. A schedule will be made and your team will play it. No more bickering about who is going east. At this point a zipper may be best. Let everyone share an equal amount of pain.

This. They don't want an all CUSA division and they want to give the northern school trips into strong recruiting regions like Florida, Louisiana, and Texas.

(02-14-2014 09:18 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  At this point I don't really care. Whatever they come up with is what they come with. A schedule will be made and your team will play it. No more bickering about who is going east. At this point a zipper may be best. Let everyone share an equal amount of pain.

That's correct. Even if they choose to do some kind of bizarre nonsensical division split now, they'll just end up changing it to a geographical split in a few years (following the B1G model).

(02-14-2014 10:56 AM)Bearcat61 Wrote:  Based on the scheduling for 2014, it appears we have the following Divisional lineup for 2015 and forward-

North -
UConn
Temple
Navy

Cinti
Memphis
Tulane

South
ECU
UCF
USF

Tulsa
SMU
Houston

With that in mind, I like Cinti schedule for 2015 when we reopen at Nippert:
Division
Away Memphis
Away Navy
Home Tulane
Home Temple
Home Uconn

Cross Division
Home UCF
Away ECU
Away Tulsa

I think you have to switch ECU & Tulane. ECU in the north & Tulane in the south. That would be a more logical geographic north/south set up.

I think it should be alphabetical...

A-M Division
Cincinnati
Central Florida
Connecticut
East Carolina
Houston
Memphis

N-Z Division
Navy
Southern Methodist
South Florida
Temple
Tulane
Tulsa

I was thinking split them by how many letters in their names:

10 or More Letters:
Cincinnati
Central Florida
Connecticut
East Carolina
Southern Methodist
South Florida

7 or Less Letters:
Houston
Memphis
Tulsa
Navy
Temple
Tulane

(02-14-2014 08:51 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:10 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  If you read what the AAC director of football put on twitter, you would know the divisions are set and the answer is in the 2014 schedule.

Temple
UConn
Cincy
ECU
SMU
UCF
all in one zipper division, with

Navy
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
USF
in the other

Perm xover guesses
UCF USF
SMU Houston
Temple Navy
Cincy Memphis
Uconn Tulane
ECU Tulsa

1. Michael Costa on Twitter said: "No [final] decision made on divisonal alignment yet. We have an idea, but details still need to be worked out."

2. Unless he has deleted a tweet, he said nothing about the 2014 schedule holding a key to the 2015 divisions. Earlier, CommuterBob said that Costa alluded to the fact that the 2014 schedule sets up for 2015 divisional alignment. I don't see that.

3. I can find no basis whatsoever in the 2014 schedule to predict zipper divisions as described above. Please elaborate on how you derived them.

Simple. Look at the 2014 schedule, then look at the alignment I posted. No other division alignment has all of the future division mates playing each other this year while maintaining USF-UCF, Cincy-Memphis, and UH-SMU x overs.

Incorrect.

You have Temple and SMU in the same division. They don't play this year. Same for Cincy and UCF. Same for Tulane and USF.

One thing we know for sure. Both SMU and USF miss both Temple and Tulane this year. This forms the cornerstone for any logical deduction of the 2015 divisions. SMU and USF are in one division. Temple and Tulane are in the other division.

Your proposal violates that cornerstone.

(02-15-2014 04:42 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 08:51 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:37 PM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:10 PM)UCF_SystemsEng Wrote:  If you read what the AAC director of football put on twitter, you would know the divisions are set and the answer is in the 2014 schedule.

Temple
UConn
Cincy
ECU
SMU
UCF
all in one zipper division, with

Navy
Tulsa
Memphis
Tulane
Houston
USF
in the other

Perm xover guesses
UCF USF
SMU Houston
Temple Navy
Cincy Memphis
Uconn Tulane
ECU Tulsa

1. Michael Costa on Twitter said: "No [final] decision made on divisonal alignment yet. We have an idea, but details still need to be worked out."

2. Unless he has deleted a tweet, he said nothing about the 2014 schedule holding a key to the 2015 divisions. Earlier, CommuterBob said that Costa alluded to the fact that the 2014 schedule sets up for 2015 divisional alignment. I don't see that.

3. I can find no basis whatsoever in the 2014 schedule to predict zipper divisions as described above. Please elaborate on how you derived them.

Simple. Look at the 2014 schedule, then look at the alignment I posted. No other division alignment has all of the future division mates playing each other this year while maintaining USF-UCF, Cincy-Memphis, and UH-SMU x overs.

Incorrect.

You have Temple and SMU in the same division. They don't play this year. Same for Cincy and UCF. Same for Tulane and USF.

One thing we know for sure. Both SMU and USF miss both Temple and Tulane this year. This forms the cornerstone for any logical deduction of the 2015 divisions. SMU and USF are in one division. Temple and Tulane are in the other division.

Your proposal violates that cornerstone.

That's what happens when you have a 3 martini lunch on a Friday. Good catch.

I think everybody is reading a little too much into this. Whether a team plays another team this season might not signal divisional alignment. I think the league is more concerned about making schools play at the same place two years in a row. Potentially skipping a team this season will still allow those schools to be in the same division next season.

(02-14-2014 02:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  outside of more costs, geographic dysfunction, and the isolation of navy.. what does navy benefit going west?
playing against the less attended smaller brand teams?

Playing against similar minded private schools. Navy doesn't have it easy...and neither do SMU, Tulsa, or Tulane.

Does Bearcat61 realize that ECU is located in North Carolina and Tulane is located in New Orleans on the Gulf of Mexico?[/b][/font]

I would like to see the top four private and academic universities in the same division. Navy,SMU,Tulane and Tulsa.