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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 02:55 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
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(01-28-2014 12:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 11:16 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 10:54 AM)lenetzach Wrote:  You're probably snickering, but for the sake of anyone who doesnt know, everyone starts at zero. It's calculated as 25% your winning percentage (weighted for home and away), 50% opponents wp, and 25% opponents' opponents wp. (Neither owp nor oowp weighted). The latter two parts comprise strength of schedule.

So it is volatile and useless early on, and settles in as more data enters the equation.

I'm not big on it, as it is of limited usefulness and can be manipulated to an extent, but if you understand how it works you can use it for what it's worth.

I.E. loading up on RPI 150 or so teams, as opposed to RPI 300 teams. In reality, neither team runs any sort of risk of knocking us off, but you get a huge RPI benefit by playing these 150 teams as opposed to 300 teams. It's fool's gold, though, because you are not at risk of losing either game.

Yep. RPI is pretty simple mathematical calculation that punishes playing against sub 250 teams just as much as it helps to play teams in the top 75. Way too many anchors on the schedule this year. The number of games played doesn't really affect your RPI.

On the other hand, the committee doesn't seem to be treating the RPI as a holy relic these days. We have two outstanding wins, no bad losses, and a nice road record.

I actually think, if we win 2 of 3 vs uconn Cincy & Ville & win all the rest with maybe just one upset we'll be a 2 seed. However, the blowout loss to OK ST may very well be an anchor that is a net negative when you factor in all considered. Wish we had another stab at UF.

I doubt people will hold a road loss on the second game of the season that was later avenged against us.

I agree. That wasn't a home and away series; we had to play them on the road and then at a neutral site, and split it. That gives us a slight edge in the series.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
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(01-28-2014 02:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:54 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:52 PM)Stammers Wrote:  RPI History
Gonzaga
2014 - 25
2013 - 7
2012 - 24

UT
2014 - 52
2013 - 66
2012 - 90

You are really going out of your way to make yourself look like a dimwit.

No, just embracing our replacement rival Lemon Owen.

Slowleak; 2 simple questions.

1. How badly will the Lemoyne Owen game affect our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO?

1. How greatly did lemon owen help our RPI?
2. How much more would a win against UT have helped us?

Shame on me for trying to rationalize with stupids.

1. What was the effect of the Lemoyne Owen game on our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO? Next year? The year after? Never?

Or you just can't handle someone else's reasoning. Look dude, I get on here & post my opinion. Rarely do I go in and attack folks on here for their opinion. Unless the fight is brought to me. I start threads for discussion & I post my opinion in other folks threads. Some of you guys get way to defensive with folks who are doing the same thing you are. Presenting another view point. Get out of your little defensive Memphis box. The world is bigger. With many ways to accomplish the same thing. Someone tells me they don't want to play ut, I tell them I want to, then the attack begins. I discuss. Others attack me. It's amusing at times, just like what you are doing. Calling me stupid for having a differing opinion. Maybe in actuality, you are the idiot that can only use little words and demeaning comments.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:12 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:55 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:05 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:15 PM)bubbapt Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 11:16 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  I.E. loading up on RPI 150 or so teams, as opposed to RPI 300 teams. In reality, neither team runs any sort of risk of knocking us off, but you get a huge RPI benefit by playing these 150 teams as opposed to 300 teams. It's fool's gold, though, because you are not at risk of losing either game.

Yep. RPI is pretty simple mathematical calculation that punishes playing against sub 250 teams just as much as it helps to play teams in the top 75. Way too many anchors on the schedule this year. The number of games played doesn't really affect your RPI.

On the other hand, the committee doesn't seem to be treating the RPI as a holy relic these days. We have two outstanding wins, no bad losses, and a nice road record.

I actually think, if we win 2 of 3 vs uconn Cincy & Ville & win all the rest with maybe just one upset we'll be a 2 seed. However, the blowout loss to OK ST may very well be an anchor that is a net negative when you factor in all considered. Wish we had another stab at UF.

I doubt people will hold a road loss on the second game of the season that was later avenged against us.

I agree. That wasn't a home and away series; we had to play them on the road and then at a neutral site, and split it. That gives us a slight edge in the series.

Good point. I hadn't looked at it like that.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 02:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 01:44 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:06 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
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(01-28-2014 11:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  All very good points because...UT is a national program...and they are ranked...and we aren't playing Oklahoma State and Gonzaga home and home...and we won't be playing Louisville home and home...and the program doesn't need to play any buy games...

Exactly. Who needs Ok. St. twice, Gonzaga, Louisville, Florida, and the home-and-home games moving forward when we could have played a national powerhouse like UT? I'm sure everyone here tried to explain to BIGD 50,000 times why playing UT is not benificial to us, but since he is more of an expert on the matter than Cal or Pastner I won't waste my time trying to re-explain it.

Or we could play all those games plus UT...DUH

Man, you are the last person that needs to be saying "duh" to people. Do you even know what you wrote? Surely you do since you wrote it. You were mocking the "national schedule" suggesting that Oklahoma St. and Florida and Gonzaga and home-and-home with Louisville moving forward weren't national. You didn't just simply say that you thought we should play UT in addition to those teams, you were mocking the scheduling.

Then you proceeded to declare that Cal and Pastner are wrong, as if you know better than they do....gotta put a big "huh?" on that one and a "wha?".

The only bridge that would be burning would be the one Memphis recruits and their families could walk across to see UT playing at the Forum instead of having to drive across the state to Knoxville. If you want to play for UT then your family and friends are going have to head to Knoxville to see you, not the comfy confines of the Forum.

Nothing wrong with you having the opinion (though many disagree) that in your estimation we should play UT in addition to those other teams, but that is not how you presented it.

Florida was a neutral court game that isn't being returned. OK st's 2nd game was a neutral court game that was matched up because they won all their Old Spice games. The zags??? Really??? You are arguing for them? & don't forget all those juggernaut December games.

I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:23 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 01:44 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:06 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:01 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  Exactly. Who needs Ok. St. twice, Gonzaga, Louisville, Florida, and the home-and-home games moving forward when we could have played a national powerhouse like UT? I'm sure everyone here tried to explain to BIGD 50,000 times why playing UT is not benificial to us, but since he is more of an expert on the matter than Cal or Pastner I won't waste my time trying to re-explain it.

Or we could play all those games plus UT...DUH

Man, you are the last person that needs to be saying "duh" to people. Do you even know what you wrote? Surely you do since you wrote it. You were mocking the "national schedule" suggesting that Oklahoma St. and Florida and Gonzaga and home-and-home with Louisville moving forward weren't national. You didn't just simply say that you thought we should play UT in addition to those teams, you were mocking the scheduling.

Then you proceeded to declare that Cal and Pastner are wrong, as if you know better than they do....gotta put a big "huh?" on that one and a "wha?".

The only bridge that would be burning would be the one Memphis recruits and their families could walk across to see UT playing at the Forum instead of having to drive across the state to Knoxville. If you want to play for UT then your family and friends are going have to head to Knoxville to see you, not the comfy confines of the Forum.

Nothing wrong with you having the opinion (though many disagree) that in your estimation we should play UT in addition to those other teams, but that is not how you presented it.

Florida was a neutral court game that isn't being returned. OK st's 2nd game was a neutral court game that was matched up because they won all their Old Spice games. The zags??? Really??? You are arguing for them? & don't forget all those juggernaut December games.

I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.

So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:30 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:23 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 01:44 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:06 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Or we could play all those games plus UT...DUH

Man, you are the last person that needs to be saying "duh" to people. Do you even know what you wrote? Surely you do since you wrote it. You were mocking the "national schedule" suggesting that Oklahoma St. and Florida and Gonzaga and home-and-home with Louisville moving forward weren't national. You didn't just simply say that you thought we should play UT in addition to those teams, you were mocking the scheduling.

Then you proceeded to declare that Cal and Pastner are wrong, as if you know better than they do....gotta put a big "huh?" on that one and a "wha?".

The only bridge that would be burning would be the one Memphis recruits and their families could walk across to see UT playing at the Forum instead of having to drive across the state to Knoxville. If you want to play for UT then your family and friends are going have to head to Knoxville to see you, not the comfy confines of the Forum.

Nothing wrong with you having the opinion (though many disagree) that in your estimation we should play UT in addition to those other teams, but that is not how you presented it.

Florida was a neutral court game that isn't being returned. OK st's 2nd game was a neutral court game that was matched up because they won all their Old Spice games. The zags??? Really??? You are arguing for them? & don't forget all those juggernaut December games.

I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.

So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?

Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:59 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:54 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  No, just embracing our replacement rival Lemon Owen.

Slowleak; 2 simple questions.

1. How badly will the Lemoyne Owen game affect our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO?

1. How greatly did lemon owen help our RPI?
2. How much more would a win against UT have helped us?

Shame on me for trying to rationalize with stupids.

1. What was the effect of the Lemoyne Owen game on our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO? Next year? The year after? Never?

Or you just can't handle someone else's reasoning. Look dude, I get on here & post my opinion. Rarely do I go in and attack folks on here for their opinion. Unless the fight is brought to me. I start threads for discussion & I post my opinion in other folks threads. Some of you guys get way to defensive with folks who are doing the same thing you are. Presenting another view point. Get out of your little defensive Memphis box. The world is bigger. With many ways to accomplish the same thing. Someone tells me they don't want to play ut, I tell them I want to, then the attack begins. I discuss. Others attack me. It's amusing at times, just like what you are doing. Calling me stupid for having a differing opinion. Maybe in actuality, you are the idiot that can only use little words and demeaning comments.

Fantastic news.

1. What was the effect of the Lemoyne Owen game on our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO? Next year? The year after? Never?
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:59 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:54 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  No, just embracing our replacement rival Lemon Owen.

Slowleak; 2 simple questions.

1. How badly will the Lemoyne Owen game affect our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO?

1. How greatly did lemon owen help our RPI?
2. How much more would a win against UT have helped us?

Shame on me for trying to rationalize with stupids.

1. What was the effect of the Lemoyne Owen game on our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO? Next year? The year after? Never?

Or you just can't handle someone else's reasoning. Look dude, I get on here & post my opinion. Rarely do I go in and attack folks on here for their opinion. Unless the fight is brought to me. I start threads for discussion & I post my opinion in other folks threads. Some of you guys get way to defensive with folks who are doing the same thing you are. Presenting another view point. Get out of your little defensive Memphis box. The world is bigger. With many ways to accomplish the same thing. Someone tells me they don't want to play ut, I tell them I want to, then the attack begins. I discuss. Others attack me. It's amusing at times, just like what you are doing. Calling me stupid for having a differing opinion. Maybe in actuality, you are the idiot that can only use little words and demeaning comments.

That sounds fair and reasonable, except that is not an accurate description of what you do on this board, at least for the few months I've been here. You attack and insult Pastner at every turn. You bait, bait, bait, and instigate, which you've already admitted to yourself. You say things that are deliberately designed to get under people's skin and take shot after shot after shot. I would hardly consider that to be innocently expressing your opinion.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:37 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:30 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:23 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 01:44 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  Man, you are the last person that needs to be saying "duh" to people. Do you even know what you wrote? Surely you do since you wrote it. You were mocking the "national schedule" suggesting that Oklahoma St. and Florida and Gonzaga and home-and-home with Louisville moving forward weren't national. You didn't just simply say that you thought we should play UT in addition to those teams, you were mocking the scheduling.

Then you proceeded to declare that Cal and Pastner are wrong, as if you know better than they do....gotta put a big "huh?" on that one and a "wha?".

The only bridge that would be burning would be the one Memphis recruits and their families could walk across to see UT playing at the Forum instead of having to drive across the state to Knoxville. If you want to play for UT then your family and friends are going have to head to Knoxville to see you, not the comfy confines of the Forum.

Nothing wrong with you having the opinion (though many disagree) that in your estimation we should play UT in addition to those other teams, but that is not how you presented it.

Florida was a neutral court game that isn't being returned. OK st's 2nd game was a neutral court game that was matched up because they won all their Old Spice games. The zags??? Really??? You are arguing for them? & don't forget all those juggernaut December games.

I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.

So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?

Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.

But pretty much though. That's the legs behind the "don't play UT" argument. "Can't give them a recruiting edge." "Can't let them tell kids they get to come home & play 2 whopping games in a 4 year career."
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:48 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:02 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:59 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:56 PM)Stammers Wrote:  Slowleak; 2 simple questions.

1. How badly will the Lemoyne Owen game affect our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO?

1. How greatly did lemon owen help our RPI?
2. How much more would a win against UT have helped us?

Shame on me for trying to rationalize with stupids.

1. What was the effect of the Lemoyne Owen game on our RPI?
2. When do we play at SEMO? Next year? The year after? Never?

Or you just can't handle someone else's reasoning. Look dude, I get on here & post my opinion. Rarely do I go in and attack folks on here for their opinion. Unless the fight is brought to me. I start threads for discussion & I post my opinion in other folks threads. Some of you guys get way to defensive with folks who are doing the same thing you are. Presenting another view point. Get out of your little defensive Memphis box. The world is bigger. With many ways to accomplish the same thing. Someone tells me they don't want to play ut, I tell them I want to, then the attack begins. I discuss. Others attack me. It's amusing at times, just like what you are doing. Calling me stupid for having a differing opinion. Maybe in actuality, you are the idiot that can only use little words and demeaning comments.

That sounds fair and reasonable, except that is not an accurate description of what you do on this board, at least for the few months I've been here. You attack and insult Pastner at every turn. You bait, bait, bait, and instigate, which you've already admitted to yourself. You say things that are deliberately designed to get under people's skin and take shot after shot after shot. I would hardly consider that to be innocently expressing your opinion.

Find an example where I've attacked someone for their opinion. I attack back when I'm attacked. I'm hard on pastner because he's deserved it. & I've praised him when he's deserved it to.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 03:55 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:37 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:30 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:23 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:18 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Florida was a neutral court game that isn't being returned. OK st's 2nd game was a neutral court game that was matched up because they won all their Old Spice games. The zags??? Really??? You are arguing for them? & don't forget all those juggernaut December games.

I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.

So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?

Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.

But pretty much though. That's the legs behind the "don't play UT" argument. "Can't give them a recruiting edge." "Can't let them tell kids they get to come home & play 2 whopping games in a 4 year career."

Not exactly, but if they want to use the Tad Pad as a recruiting carrot more power to 'em. However, we should be the only one with the ability to use the Forum for recruiting incentive.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 04:02 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:55 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:37 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:30 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:23 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  I never said the Florida game wasn't a neutral court game nor did I say that was being returned. I never said that the Oklahoma St. game in the Old Spice tournament that we won wasn't a neutral court game. Not sure what any of that has to do with you lobbying for UT to be on our schedule. Give me Gonzaga or 100 other teams over UT any day, it's not even close.

UT has gotten their share of Memphis kids, but Tony Harris and Stokes and Chism are 3 too many. Why give them the opportunity to snag another Tony Harris from us down the line, and for what? That doesn't seem like a very good idea.

So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?

Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.

But pretty much though. That's the legs behind the "don't play UT" argument. "Can't give them a recruiting edge." "Can't let them tell kids they get to come home & play 2 whopping games in a 4 year career."

Not exactly, but if they want to use the Tad Pad as a recruiting carrot more power to 'em. However, we should be the only one with the ability to use the Forum for recruiting incentive.

Yeah that whole 2 games in 4 years theory has legs. I mean if a recruits goal is to play in the forum, it isn't like we can offer more than 2 games. So that definitely gives ut a competitive advantage.

Hey, how's that alias these days? I think i'm zeroing in on who it is.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
(01-28-2014 04:11 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 04:02 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:55 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:37 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:30 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  So you are saying UT, if they never play us, will never recruit our area. & will never be able to offer recruits the opportunity to play at schools close to home like say, Ole Miss?

Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.

But pretty much though. That's the legs behind the "don't play UT" argument. "Can't give them a recruiting edge." "Can't let them tell kids they get to come home & play 2 whopping games in a 4 year career."

Not exactly, but if they want to use the Tad Pad as a recruiting carrot more power to 'em. However, we should be the only one with the ability to use the Forum for recruiting incentive.

Yeah that whole 2 games in 4 years theory has legs. I mean if a recruits goal is to play in the forum, it isn't like we can offer more than 2 games. So that definitely gives ut a competitive advantage.

Hey, how's that alias these days? I think i'm zeroing in on who it is.

No one ever stated it was a recruit's goal to play in the Forum, it's a little more subtle than that man. It's obvious you don't see it and only really care about having UT on the schedule, no matter what. That is somehow very, very important to you it seems, though I'm still not sure how it benefits us. Why do you want to play UT so badly?

As far as the alias accusation goes, I don't know what to say, I'm only me, have only been reading this board for 3 months. Who do you think I am or my other alias is or whatever?
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(01-28-2014 04:40 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 04:11 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 04:02 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:55 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 03:37 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  Nope. That's another thing I didn't say.

But pretty much though. That's the legs behind the "don't play UT" argument. "Can't give them a recruiting edge." "Can't let them tell kids they get to come home & play 2 whopping games in a 4 year career."

Not exactly, but if they want to use the Tad Pad as a recruiting carrot more power to 'em. However, we should be the only one with the ability to use the Forum for recruiting incentive.

Yeah that whole 2 games in 4 years theory has legs. I mean if a recruits goal is to play in the forum, it isn't like we can offer more than 2 games. So that definitely gives ut a competitive advantage.

Hey, how's that alias these days? I think i'm zeroing in on who it is.

No one ever stated it was a recruit's goal to play in the Forum, it's a little more subtle than that man. It's obvious you don't see it and only really care about having UT on the schedule, no matter what. That is somehow very, very important to you it seems, though I'm still not sure how it benefits us. Why do you want to play UT so badly?

As far as the alias accusation goes, I don't know what to say, I'm only me, have only been reading this board for 3 months. Who do you think I am or my other alias is or whatever?

He thinks LO is hurting our RPI. He thinks we are playing SEMO home and home. We are both wasting time with a 6 year old.
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Lower RPI because of "Fewer" Games Played.
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(01-28-2014 02:31 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:06 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
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(01-28-2014 11:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 11:02 AM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  Wow, that national schedule we've replaced UT with is amazing...wait, we didnt replace them at all. Just didnt play that game at all. Makes us look like pansies for dropping UT. Calipari & Pastner are both wrong for dropping regional rivalries. (Burning bridges)

All very good points because...UT is a national program...and they are ranked...and we aren't playing Oklahoma State and Gonzaga home and home...and we won't be playing Louisville home and home...and the program doesn't need to play any buy games...

Exactly. Who needs Ok. St. twice, Gonzaga, Louisville, Florida, and the home-and-home games moving forward when we could have played a national powerhouse like UT? I'm sure everyone here tried to explain to BIGD 50,000 times why playing UT is not benificial to us, but since he is more of an expert on the matter than Cal or Pastner I won't waste my time trying to re-explain it.

Or we could play all those games plus UT...DUH

What do we get out of playing UT this season?

A win.
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(01-29-2014 02:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 02:31 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:06 PM)BIGDTiger Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 12:01 PM)QDoodle Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 11:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  All very good points because...UT is a national program...and they are ranked...and we aren't playing Oklahoma State and Gonzaga home and home...and we won't be playing Louisville home and home...and the program doesn't need to play any buy games...

Exactly. Who needs Ok. St. twice, Gonzaga, Louisville, Florida, and the home-and-home games moving forward when we could have played a national powerhouse like UT? I'm sure everyone here tried to explain to BIGD 50,000 times why playing UT is not benificial to us, but since he is more of an expert on the matter than Cal or Pastner I won't waste my time trying to re-explain it.

Or we could play all those games plus UT...DUH

What do we get out of playing UT this season?

A win.

Would be nice, but if we're adding games to the schedule lets add some top 50 teams, not a skidmark of a team with a Coach on his way out.
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(01-28-2014 09:57 AM)mairving Wrote:  Our RPI is also a little low because we lost 2 home games. Those two home losses didn't offset the really good road win we had at Louisville. Home losses are bad for the RPI.

This.

By the end of the year, and heck even now, the 0.6 "win" Memphis would have gotten for a bobo 150 rpi school wouldn't have any real effect on the Tiger's RPI, esp in light of the fact it only accounts for 25% of the rpi.
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(01-29-2014 03:08 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-28-2014 09:57 AM)mairving Wrote:  Our RPI is also a little low because we lost 2 home games. Those two home losses didn't offset the really good road win we had at Louisville. Home losses are bad for the RPI.

This.

By the end of the year, and heck even now, the 0.6 "win" Memphis would have gotten for a bobo 150 rpi school wouldn't have any real effect on the Tiger's RPI, esp in light of the fact it only accounts for 25% of the rpi.

It could very well worsen our RPI.
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RE: Low RPI Because Of Less Games Played
As of today, Memphis' rpi "win %" is .732. If they had played, and won, another home game instead of LO, their rpi "win %" would be .741.

So, take .732 from .741 and you have .009. Now multiply that by .25 (the weight of a win) and that would be .00225. Add that .00225 to the Tigers' current rpi to get an idea of what the win (alone) would have added to the ranking.

According to realtimerpi.com Memphis RPI rating is .6153. So, add .00225 to that to get .6176, which would move Memphis from 30th to 29th.

According to Warrennolan.com, Memphis' rpi rating is #32 with .6149. Again adding .00225 to that would increase Memphis to .6172 for a move up to 28th.

So it appears the home win vs. a 150 would do little to advance Memphis' rpi.
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