(01-04-2014 08:51 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:13 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:10 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:58 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Made no damn sense. Austin has clearly hit a wall so it's not surprising to see his minutes reduced. He's got to toughen up. Just way too soft. But to sit him the whole second half? Why?

And Pastner sitting Joe like he did just blew my mind. He had a great first half and along with Pellom actually came to play. Then Pastner inexcplicably sits him for long stretches. This was made worse by Dixon pulling his stupid crap and throwing up selfish uncalled for shots time and time again. Yet, Pastner kept Joe on the bench. Joe is our best player and their is no excuse not to have him in the game as much as possible.

there is no wall. that's just some garbage josh has conjured up.

Thank you. What wall has Austin hit? The kid is almost gravy when he gets it on the block.... and what he lacks in athleticism he makes up for in skill, tenacity and sound fundamentals.

I have to wonder what games some of you are watching. Austin has been struggling for a few games in a row now.

Austin is big time struggling right now to the point where I would consider staring Pellom and letting Austin watch the game for the first few minutes

(01-04-2014 09:20 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:51 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:13 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:10 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:58 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  Made no damn sense. Austin has clearly hit a wall so it's not surprising to see his minutes reduced. He's got to toughen up. Just way too soft. But to sit him the whole second half? Why?

And Pastner sitting Joe like he did just blew my mind. He had a great first half and along with Pellom actually came to play. Then Pastner inexcplicably sits him for long stretches. This was made worse by Dixon pulling his stupid crap and throwing up selfish uncalled for shots time and time again. Yet, Pastner kept Joe on the bench. Joe is our best player and their is no excuse not to have him in the game as much as possible.

there is no wall. that's just some garbage josh has conjured up.

Thank you. What wall has Austin hit? The kid is almost gravy when he gets it on the block.... and what he lacks in athleticism he makes up for in skill, tenacity and sound fundamentals.

I have to wonder what games some of you are watching. Austin has been struggling for a few games in a row now.

Austin is big time struggling right now to the point where I would consider staring Pellom and letting Austin watch the game for the first few minutes

11 minutes, none in the 2nd half. 1-4 is not struggling ... (2-13 is struggling - Geron, 2-11 is struggling - CC).

I didn't see anything in the first half that would indicate he shouldn't have played in the second. Frankly, it's a little baffling.

(01-04-2014 09:18 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

This team goes as Joe goes. Just look at the two blow out losses. In those games Joe has not played hard and at 100mph. For us to go deep Joe is going to have to play hard and at 100 mph.

If that's the case.. and I agree that it is, Josh needs to make it clear to everyone this is Joe's team, and tell Dixon to pull it back a little. And gawd would I hate to be the lone big on the floor with 4 small guards.

(01-04-2014 10:00 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:18 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

This team goes as Joe goes. Just look at the two blow out losses. In those games Joe has not played hard and at 100mph. For us to go deep Joe is going to have to play hard and at 100 mph.

If that's the case.. and I agree that it is, Josh needs to make it clear to everyone this is Joe's team, and tell Dixon to pull it back a little. And gawd would I hate to be the lone big on the floor with 4 small guards.

I think everyone knows it but when Joe doesn't play hard somebody has got to attack and Dixon seems to be the only one not afraid to attack and shoot.

Now I agree that Dixon has killed so many times, but so has Geron

(01-04-2014 09:48 PM)NigelTufnel Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:20 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:51 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:13 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 07:10 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  there is no wall. that's just some garbage josh has conjured up.

Thank you. What wall has Austin hit? The kid is almost gravy when he gets it on the block.... and what he lacks in athleticism he makes up for in skill, tenacity and sound fundamentals.

I have to wonder what games some of you are watching. Austin has been struggling for a few games in a row now.

Austin is big time struggling right now to the point where I would consider staring Pellom and letting Austin watch the game for the first few minutes

11 minutes, none in the 2nd half. 1-4 is not struggling ... (2-13 is struggling - Geron, 2-11 is struggling - CC).

I didn't see anything in the first half that would indicate he shouldn't have played in the second. Frankly, it's a little baffling.

Dude have you watched Austin the last month since Orlando he has struggled. I don't just look at his offensive numbers. Her was pushed around against Florida, he was pushed around today, he struggled against ular. He has been struggling and to be honest Pellom has been better the last month.

Austin was out muscled a bit today, but sitting him on the bench isn't going to fix that. He needs to play. If we were playing a true center, PF and SF, he would get more help and be more productive.

LOL @ Mimi bashing Austin in his/her mission to sunshine pump Pastner

Paradoxical almost.

(01-05-2014 12:22 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Austin was out muscled a bit today, but sitting him on the bench isn't going to fix that. He needs to play. If we were playing a true center, PF and SF, he would get more help and be more productive.

Austin hasn't produced enough lately to warrant more playing time. This is a production type game. It's great that he blocks shots, but when he doesn't rebound he isn't much use.

For example today Cincy killed us on the offensive glass in the first half where Nichols played all his minutes. Now in the second half with Pellom playing the most we reversed the offensive glass woes. I like Nichols but he his majorly struggling right now. I honestly think it might be good to let him see the game at the start from the bench and then come in and ready to go to work.


Another thing everyone knew coming into the year we were going to live and die with the for guards, but it seems the majority are shocked when we don't play with a natural lineup. The four guards are the strength of the team we play to it it's that simple. So when they play bad we look really bad but when they play well we look really good. Other than two games they have played well.

I still say this team goes as Joe goes

(01-04-2014 10:00 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:18 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

This team goes as Joe goes. Just look at the two blow out losses. In those games Joe has not played hard and at 100mph. For us to go deep Joe is going to have to play hard and at 100 mph.

If that's the case.. and I agree that it is, Josh needs to make it clear to everyone this is Joe's team, and tell Dixon to pull it back a little. And gawd would I hate to be the lone big on the floor with 4 small guards.

Josh would rather get kicked in the face by a mule than to make it clear to everyone that this is Joe's team.

(01-05-2014 01:57 AM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:00 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:18 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

This team goes as Joe goes. Just look at the two blow out losses. In those games Joe has not played hard and at 100mph. For us to go deep Joe is going to have to play hard and at 100 mph.

If that's the case.. and I agree that it is, Josh needs to make it clear to everyone this is Joe's team, and tell Dixon to pull it back a little. And gawd would I hate to be the lone big on the floor with 4 small guards.

Josh would rather get kicked in the face by a mule than to make it clear to everyone that this is Joe's team.

I think Josh has mentioned it before that this team goes as Joe goes. If that isn't clearly saying this is Joe's team I don't know what is.

When Joe is off and not playing hard there isn't much to be done except tell the other guards to step up and be aggressive.

The team know's this is Joe's team

Look at the first half score when Nichols did play vs second half when he didn't play.

(01-05-2014 01:46 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 12:22 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Austin was out muscled a bit today, but sitting him on the bench isn't going to fix that. He needs to play. If we were playing a true center, PF and SF, he would get more help and be more productive.

Austin hasn't produced enough lately to warrant more playing time. This is a production type game. It's great that he blocks shots, but when he doesn't rebound he isn't much use.

For example today Cincy killed us on the offensive glass in the first half where Nichols played all his minutes. Now in the second half with Pellom playing the most we reversed the offensive glass woes. I like Nichols but he his majorly struggling right now. I honestly think it might be good to let him see the game at the start from the bench and then come in and ready to go to work.


Another thing everyone knew coming into the year we were going to live and die with the for guards, but it seems the majority are shocked when we don't play with a natural lineup. The four guards are the strength of the team we play to it it's that simple. So when they play bad we look really bad but when they play well we look really good. Other than two games they have played well.

I still say this team goes as Joe goes

While Austin was on the floor, we outscored Cinci by 5 (in 11 minutes). While he was sitting on the bench, we were outscored by 21 (in 29 minutes).

Hmmm ...

http://statsheet.com/mcb/games/2014/01/0...memphis-53

I hate 11 O'clock games...... Cincy was ready to catch us slipping, we played like we had just eaten breakfast.

4 kings, please stop it now. Its really didn't work against SEMO

The guys said they wanted it more than we did.Wtf

I thought Nichols played okay yesterday; good point MEMPHIS outscored Cincy when he was in there. But it is equally true Pellom has been more productive the past few weeks. I would not have any heartburn starting Pellom with Shaq and bring Nichols off the bench.

The bottom line truth is with the 4 guards MEMPHIS boasts, it is very important to have three bigs that can get it done as well.

From a depth development angle, it would be ideal to see King reduce his unforced TO's (calm down a bit!) and Woodson put in about 6 minutes each game.

(01-05-2014 01:46 AM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 12:22 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Austin was out muscled a bit today, but sitting him on the bench isn't going to fix that. He needs to play. If we were playing a true center, PF and SF, he would get more help and be more productive.

Austin hasn't produced enough lately to warrant more playing time. This is a production type game. It's great that he blocks shots, but when he doesn't rebound he isn't much use.

For example today Cincy killed us on the offensive glass in the first half where Nichols played all his minutes. Now in the second half with Pellom playing the most we reversed the offensive glass woes. I like Nichols but he his majorly struggling right now. I honestly think it might be good to let him see the game at the start from the bench and then come in and ready to go to work.


Another thing everyone knew coming into the year we were going to live and die with the for guards, but it seems the majority are shocked when we don't play with a natural lineup. The four guards are the strength of the team we play to it it's that simple. So when they play bad we look really bad but when they play well we look really good. Other than two games they have played well.

I still say this team goes as Joe goes

I agree with Tiger46 that playing a true 5, 4, and a TRUE 3, would vastly help the frontcourt and the overall team.

Opposing teams knew little about Austin until they saw what he could do in Orlando. Now they are fronting & doubling him the entire game. Put in Nick King and he would either help free up Austin +/Shaq/Pellom/Big Dom, or find himself open to attack the basket or dish. The other plus is King will hit the glass. Iverson and Wilson can help too.

Austin has hit the wall? Shaq played well in the beginning last year when he was in with Tarik. Shaq hit the wall when we went 1-4 and he was the only true big in the game.

Also, I wasn’t a fan of living or dying with the 4 guards. We had 7 new cleared players so I knew we had other options. Again, Austin & Shaq played very well in Orlando with Shaq being MVP. Without them we probably don’t get past LSU. So what happens when our guards are off, just throw in the towel?

Sorry. Balanced teams win big games, get good seeds, and roll in March.

(01-04-2014 11:14 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 10:00 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 09:18 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

This team goes as Joe goes. Just look at the two blow out losses. In those games Joe has not played hard and at 100mph. For us to go deep Joe is going to have to play hard and at 100 mph.

If that's the case.. and I agree that it is, Josh needs to make it clear to everyone this is Joe's team, and tell Dixon to pull it back a little. And gawd would I hate to be the lone big on the floor with 4 small guards.

I think everyone knows it but when Joe doesn't play hard somebody has got to attack and Dixon seems to be the only one not afraid to attack and shoot.

Now I agree that Dixon has killed so many times, but so has Geron

this is silly to think Joe wasn't playing hard. while Joe wasn't playing hard he still managed to out score Dixon and Geron. Joe needs to stay on the floor in order for us to win, he is way to valuable. He shot 6 for 13. He should stay on the floor, him being on the floor gives us the best chance to win.

(01-04-2014 02:24 PM)presskh Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 02:21 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  Probably a "match-up" or "feel" thing by Coach P....

15 point loss at home, in front of a packed house.

On national TV.

Really hurts our national image.

Or reinforces it

(01-04-2014 06:31 PM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:10 PM)tigers0830 Wrote:  Joe sat because he wasn't playing hard. Jason Smitg tweeted about it during one of the timeouts saying Pastner asked Joe what was wrong and that he wasn't playing hard.

For us to be elite Joe has to go full speed all game. He seemed to get frustrated today like he did in the loss to Oklahoma St

I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me.

"I think JJ and Dixon on the court at the same time is just toxic and disruptive to our offense and overall play, and not just because they're both 6' or less. Maybe that's just me."