(10-02-2013 08:10 PM)bladhmadh Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 05:23 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 02:41 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 01:51 PM)BlazeNBham Wrote:  Any win in UAB history.

What about Nov. 6, 1999 @ Legion Field?

UAB 36 vs. #17 ECU 17

Meh....

meh???? are you kidding me?

Yes I am. I was at that game and was sitting behind Brooks mom when he got hurt. Just stirring the pot with ECU posters so as you were.

UTEP 23, BYU 16 in 1985. Probably the end of the list.

(10-02-2013 05:58 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 05:46 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  Here are just our BCS win over winning teams the last 25 years

10-2 Syracuse in 1991 (finished #11)
10-4 Virginia Tech in 2008 (finished #14)
9-4 Miami in 1999 (finished #15)
9-3 Miami in 1996 (finished #14)
9-3 Syracuse in 1995 (finished #16)
9-4 West Virginia in 2008 (finish #23)
9-3 NC State in 1991 (finished #24)
9-4 NC State in 2010 (finished #25)

7-5 South Carolina in 1994
7-6 Texas Tech in 2000
7-4-1 Stanford in 1995
6-4-1 Virginia Tech in 1989
6-5 South Carolina in 1996
6-5 Pitt in 1991
6-5 Syracuse in 2000


8 finished ranked even with a loss to us. No one in the non BCS has as many BCS wins as we do. I saw that on some blog a few years ago. We had a third more than the next closest team which was BYU.

tl; dr

Ill give you the highlights: Ecu has a good amount of bcs wins over winning teams.

(10-02-2013 05:27 PM)StillJonesing Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 04:40 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, Florida State, Nebraska, etc.

That sounds good on the surface but you guys have only beat 2 BCS schools with a winning record in the last 25 years

10-2 FSU in 1989
8-5 Virginia in 2012

The others

3-9 Kansas in 2010
3-9 Virginia in 2009
5-6 Nebraska in 2004
5-7 Illinois in 2002
4-7 Okl State in 2001
3-8 Alabama in 2000
3-8 Okl State in 2000
4-7 LSU in 1994

People really need the records teams finished with for context IMO.

What are you trying to list? I remember other wins over BCS teams during that time period. We beat UGA in 1996, for example.

The wins-over-BCS-teams-with-winning-records argument strikes me as pretty tortured logic. I'm not saying it's completely meaningless, but once you start restricting the discussion to certain time periods, and conferences, and allowing exceptions like "only twice", and start looking at other games played weeks, even months later, you can prove anything. USM has a lot of wins against top 10 teams that aren't in BCS conferences. And Louisville will be in a BCS conference soon, and has been to multiple BCS games... we don't get credit for beating their ass year after year? Nebraska would have had a winning record had they not lost to us in 2004... sorry?

If you want to criticize USM, there's plenty of ammo out there. I just think you're barking up the wrong tree with that crap, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if you lifted it straight from a USM message board.

(10-02-2013 02:25 PM)MG61 Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 01:55 PM)Lee Moses Wrote:  A few that immediately come to mind:

1. 24-19 against Cincinnati in the 2002 N.O. Bowl
2. 21-14 against Tennessee in 1975
3. Victories against Texas Tech in 1997 and 1999
4. 52-14 against Baylor in 2003

Some of the old timers could bring some back from the glory days, but those are the biggest I can think of.

Add NT 29- Texas Tech 24 in 1988. Always nice to beat Tech in Lubbock. NT is actually 3-2 vs Tech in their home stadium. Also pounded Baylor 52-14 in 2003.

Win over Tennessee in 1975 was at their homecoming. Tennessee fans were so riled that someone parked a moving van in from of their coaches house. Tennessee cancelled the remaining games on the contract and we haven't played them since.

Not a big win, but a memorable one. 1977 beat Louisiana Tech 41-14 giving them their only loss in a 9-1-2 season. They went on the defeat Louisville in that year's Indy Bowl.

A 1974 win over the #19 ranked San Diego State Aztecs for North Texas.

A 2002 NO's Bowl win over the Cincinatti Bearcats (which I think has already been listed)

Shoulda'-Coulda' Department? Here is one of those:

The late Ron Shanklin, a Mean Green wide receiver drafted by the Steelers and he from the Mean Joe Greene era at North Texas used to come to Fort Worth as a recruiter for ex HFC Corky Nelson and we'd eat Tex-Mex at Dos Gringos. Abner Haynes came along with him on one of those trips to Cowtown. Their 1968 Mean Green football team (of which this group would produce 3 NFL #1 draft choices with several lower NFL draft choices) went to Little Rock to play Frank Broyles top ranked Arkansas Razorbacks. Long story short: Ron Shanklin had a last minute TD pass reception in the end zone called a "non TD catch" by SWC referees which cost us what would have been our most prestigious win ever (even up to present day) and that back in 1968.

Shanklin would later tell me at one of those Fort Worth lunches while on a recruiting visit to FW area HS's that a few Razorbacks who played in that game had actually called him when he was with the Pittsburgh Steelers apologizing as they told him: "You guys really won that football game."

It would be the next Fall after our '68 game with the Hogs that Broyle's Arkansas team would play Darrell Royal's Texas Longhorns in what the media of that era called "the Game of the Century." In attendance at that game played in Fayettville were President Nixon, the Reverend Dr. Billy Graham and I think former President Lyndon Baines Johnson. UT won the game, of course, and the NCAA National Championship came with that win.

North Texas really did play football at a high NCAA D1 level for much of the 50's, 60's and 70's. Poor direction-less on-campus leadership at the top put our program in a deep freeze with a few bright moments during that time; just not near as many as there could have been had we stayed the course. For the first time since Hayden Fry left UNT, I think we are really back on schedule to get back to those days of playing high level NCAA D1 football.

(10-02-2013 10:21 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  What are you trying to list?

Just pointing out there is a difference in beating teams that sound good and that are actually good. I think all BCS wins are good regardless but the record gives it context. You guys may have had our number but over the years but we got everyone the last quarter century in beating the BCS.

Quote:I remember other wins over BCS teams during that time period. We beat UGA in 1996, for example.

I added it. I think your list is 100% correct now for teams .500 or better or close.

USM
10-2 FSU in 1989 (finished #3)
8-5 Virginia in 2012

6-6 Pitt in 1996
5-6 Nebraska in 2004
5-7 Illinois in 2002
5-6 Georgia in 1996
5-6 Auburn in 1991


ECU
10-2 Syracuse in 1991 (finished #11)
10-4 Virginia Tech in 2008 (finished #14)
9-4 Miami in 1999 (finished #15)
9-3 Miami in 1996 (finished #14)
9-3 Syracuse in 1995 (finished #16)
9-4 West Virginia in 2008 (finish #23)
9-3 NC State in 1991 (finished #24)
9-4 NC State in 2010 (finished #25)
7-5 South Carolina in 1994
7-6 Texas Tech in 2000
7-4-1 Stanford in 1995
6-4-1 Virginia Tech in 1989
6-5 South Carolina in 1996
6-5 Pitt in 1991
6-5 Syracuse in 2000

6-6 NC State in 1999
5-6 South Carolina in 1992
5-6 Virginia Tech in 1991
5-6 West Virginia in 1995
5-6 Wake Forest in 1997
5-7 Virginia in 2006
??? North Carolina in 2013

(10-02-2013 10:21 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Nebraska would have had a winning record had they not lost to us in 2004... sorry?

I put the close to .500 teams up.

Quote:The wins-over-BCS-teams-with-winning-records argument strikes me as pretty tortured logic. I'm not saying it's completely meaningless, but once you start restricting the discussion to certain time periods, and conferences, and allowing exceptions like "only twice", and start looking at other games played weeks, even months later, you can prove anything. USM has a lot of wins against top 10 teams that aren't in BCS conferences.

We've beat ranked Boise, TCU's, Louisville too. Your buddy listed ALL BCS schools and let's be honest that's where national respect is mostly earned.

1953. The Mississippi Southern Southerners defeat #1 ranked Alabama.

Probably 1957, Rice 7, #1 TxA&M 6 (with Heisman winner John David Crow)

(10-02-2013 05:32 PM)Eagleholic Wrote:  

(10-02-2013 04:40 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  Alabama, Ole Miss, Miss State, Florida State, Nebraska, etc.

Okie State, LSU, Georgia, Auburn, Illinois, NC State, Louisville (on the controversial fake punt Mills Kills play),
Louisville when Favre threw an apporx 65 yd TD on last play of game and a game that is now known as Miracle at Louisville,
Louisville and Howard Schnellenberger at The Rock when Schnellenberger blamed 'the moon over Hattiesburg',
ECU game in Greenville when Favre led a last-minute comeback win and a WR said he "heard the ball whistling as it was coming toward him",
ECU game in Greenville when Southern Miss won on a field goal after the TD was called back for a forward lateral (this game led to a rule change the following season),
Pitt in the 1997 Liberty Bowl, TCU and Ladanian Tomlinson in the Mobile Bowl,
#9 TCU to win C-USA championship and knock them out of BCS bowl,
beating #6 Houston in C-USA championship game in 2011, and
whichever team we beat next.

I and a group of my Tiger FB friends were at this game. A group of Pitt fans were tailgating next to us. They were really running their mouths before the game. We were wearing neutral colors and simply listening. As we started closing down the tailgate and headed towards the stadium one asked me which team I wanted to win. I told him USM. He had some smart ass comment to which I replied - "Your team is about to get it's ass whipped, don't join them son." Not many Pitt fans left in the 4th.

Don't forget about the time UNT infamously got screwed out of a win versus UT.

2007 FAU 42 vs Minnesota 39 first BIG 10 Win (even though they sucked)
2007 FAU 38 vs Troy 32 for Sun Belt Championship
2007 FAU 44 vs Memphis 27 New Orleans Bowl
2008 FAU 24 vs Central Michigan 21 Motor City Bowl

The only ranked teams we won was in 1AA
#22 Bethune-Cookman - 9/8/01 - W 31-28
#23 Illinois State - 9/27/03 - W 28-10
#14 Bethune-Cookman - 11/29/03 - W 32-24
#16 Northern Arizona - 12/6/03 - W 48-25

GO OWLS!