(09-22-2013 08:36 AM)Baby Coog Wrote:  We Coogs booed the MOB not because they made us mad but because it sucked.

Stadium smack? Really? Reallly?

(09-22-2013 08:13 AM)WeatherfordOwl Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 05:57 AM)Da.Owl Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 10:55 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 06:34 PM)Mademen Wrote:  Very entertaining game. Rice should win CUSA. My only negative and it's a minor one: The Mob's time has come and gone. It's really not cute and funny anymore. Rice University is much classier than its marching band.

Agree and clearly the students concur with the lack of participation. Silly is not clever nor funny

Had a friend ask why there were so any "old guys" in the MOB. I answered "faculty and grad srudents".

I felt that way as a freshman in 1972.

The Mob was very clever and amusing for many years, but somewhere in the early 2000's, maybe 2002, they just seemed to have lost their way and interest from the students-being good for about one decent show a year. I understand that the Shepard School is an issue.

So what is the alternative to the MOB?

What happened to the radio/internet feed?

(09-22-2013 09:59 AM)ausowl Wrote:  What happened to the radio/internet feed?

The email I got back from StretchInternet when I used their "Contact Support" option said:

StretchInternet Wrote:Hello:

The radio station transmitting the feed lost power and is currently working to recover the broadcast.

Please let us know if we can provide additional assistance.

So, power issue at 1560, sounds like.

(09-22-2013 03:11 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(09-22-2013 02:10 AM)At Ease Wrote:  Rice coach David Bailiff said the Owls have "lost focus" at times in all three games this season, blowing scoring opportunities after lengthy drives.

"We have to figure out why we are doing that," he said. "Maybe we need to simplify what we are doing offensively and defensively."

Just got back in.

This game should have never been this close. Clearly, Houston was not only very beatable this year, but Rice finds new ways to lose to inferior opponents.

I am tired of Bailiff's excuses. Comments like these above are Bailiff himself begging to be fired. There is simply no excuse for a head coach after 7 years of mediocre and losing season after losing season to have to make these kind of comments with a senior-laden and experienced team.

This was not Texas A&M, UH has beaten nobody and is not even ranked.
Running the table against present-day C-UselessA is meaningless these days if Bailiff cannot win easy out-of conference games like this one.

Yes, the onsides kick recovery near the end of the game was executed well. Point is Rice never needed to be in a position to have to do this to try for a chance at winning. Rice should have been up by 3 touchdowns at that point. Rice was shutout in quarters 2 and 3 by Bailiff's ineptitude and lack of preparation.

Bailiff admits in above quotes he has no clue what he is doing as a head coach after 7 years. Listen to the man himself and fire him now. This has got to stop. It is not fair to Rice, the players or the fans.

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As always, Good Owl, you are in my opinion, spot on.

Some have posted that the problem is with the OC. But the staff is DB's staff, and he is in the end responsible. If he lets a problem persist, he is the problem.

Our qb is killing us with these damn mind numbing interceptions, and our db's have to make a play one on one.

and yes, if this is the best we can do with the mob, then let's close it down. it's really embarrassing.

(09-22-2013 01:54 AM)THRILL Wrote:  we need a new OC.

just do this and 90% of what ails us cures itself

I agree. Even once heard a rumor that a few of the players didn't love playcalling and felt handcuffed, but that was a few years ago and just a rumor and I am not remotely close to the situation.

(09-22-2013 10:14 AM)Ranger Wrote:  Some have posted that the problem is with the OC. But the staff is DB's staff, and he is in the end responsible. If he lets a problem persist, he is the problem.

Always one of my biggest complaints. How many years was Driesbach on staff? Easy to point at a couple current coaches and wonder what their positions have done to merit being on staff multiple seasons. Bailiff if the last guy to realize a coach isn't working out. Of course, maybe the cruddy coaches are elite recruiters?

Regarding MOB, I think on the continuum of 'traditional' to 'non-traditional' college bands, the MOB was always leaning 'non-traditional' but rather than move back to 'traditional' they have continued to slide to the fringes of 'non-traditional' where it is no longer clever, witty humor but rather strange and off-beat for the sake of just being strange. It has lost that 'mainstream' Rice and opponent audience that leaned toward a bit quirky, off-beat approach, clever, witty, fun, etc. and now seems to just like being weird for sake of being weird with the only ones appreciating that approach are the ones acting strange and weird. Need to pull the reigns back in other direction…I do think in addition to reasons already listed, it also be losing appeal by some to join for these very same reasons. Each year, MOB does seem smaller and smaller. Has gone from an cool, differentiator of Rice to now a weird, scratch your head thing that does border on embarrassing thing for Rice.

Back to thread of the game, after sleeping on it….the biggest thing that concerns me about this team is that the team that played the 1H against A&M is much better than the team that played the 2H against UH. Have seen improvement from prior years but from this year's team on game one to game three, I have not seen it…across-the-board at pretty much every position except LB. All other positions (QB, RB, OL, DL, Safety, Kicker, etc.) are pretty much worse or at best case the same now than in 1H of game one. That is concerning as clearly the competition in game one 1H is > competition of game two 2H. With Kansas almost losing at home to La Tech (who was beat by Tulane at home)...clearly KU is not looking to be improved so that barometer using game two as a comparison also holds here too..

(09-21-2013 06:25 PM)At Ease Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 06:09 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Why in the world DB and Reagan stuck with him to the end in this one is mystifying, to say the least. It cost us the game, plain and simple.

He's a senior playing the cross-town rival for the last time. They're not going to bench him. It's more important to give him a chance to develop as a man than win a football game. Which is fine and all, but probably not appropriate given the amount of money spent on this program.

This has been a regular MO. Why was Corey Frazier starting and getting 80% of the snaps over Julius White who is twice the athlete? Why was Klein Kubiak playing so much this game, when we have Parks and Taylor and Hull?

This is exactly correct, IMO. Loyalty/seniority is more valued than production. On te surface, this sounds great. Unfortunately, I believe this sends the wrong message to the boys and coaches and compromises the quality of his team. I think TM, for example, learns a better life lesson if he understands that he must produce or someone else will. Maybe I misinterpret DB's MO but going back to John Shepherd, Driesbach, etc, it seems to be a problem

As terrible as the third Q was without Ross, where we had only 2 first downs, McHargue went 1-6 for 18 yards (the completion on a bubble screen to Taylor) and was 0-2 plus a sack on third down, and Petersen rushed 6 times for 10 yards... the bigger killer was probably getting only 13 points from 300 yards of total offense in the first half.

That is the whole point. If Mcq is struggling, why not try Driphus? Mcq has thrown interceptions in every game and ugly interceptions. He is a fifth year player not a redshirt freshman. If he is not improving year to year, why play him full time. Give someone else a chance. This has been DB weakness all his coaching career. By the way, Driphus was the quarterback for the go ahead touchdown with Kansas. He just seems to know how to win.


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I think it is time to start DJ, just so the grass-is-greener crowd will shut up. i cannot see why they expect DJ to perform the rest of his college career at the same level or better as his AFA game. Lots of golfers have hit aces, but that is no reason to expect them to shoot 18 from now on. But we can try DJ.

i am very disappointed in this game, but to blame it all on one or two guys is just wrong. it is true that they win and lose as a team. lots of players could have done better on one or more plays that would have made a difference. i decline to start listing them.
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+1000 to your second paragraph Buddy.
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It's not like we're calling for an unproven QB to come in a relieve McH. So far in 2013 (coming off his great performance in the bowl game to end 2012 season), Driphus has lead 4 scoring drives out of something like 5 or 6 total drives he's lead (a TD and a FG vs A&M, a FG and a TD vs Kansas). Some of those drives have been without completing a pass, which indicates to me he could've had success vs UH even if he were given little time to throw like McH had. He just moves the offense and doesn't turn it over. His only career turnover was vs Air Force on a bad option pitch near the goaline. He has 0 interceptions in his young career, but 6 TD passes. Small sample size, but kid shows an urgency and a competitive fire. He has been CLUTCH as a Rice Owl. Even last year vs UH, although things didn't go his way, I liked his attitude. I won't go as far as to say he should be starting, but he should be used a lot more to spell McH.

(09-22-2013 11:49 AM)Owl1991 Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 06:25 PM)At Ease Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 06:09 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Why in the world DB and Reagan stuck with him to the end in this one is mystifying, to say the least. It cost us the game, plain and simple.

He's a senior playing the cross-town rival for the last time. They're not going to bench him. It's more important to give him a chance to develop as a man than win a football game. Which is fine and all, but probably not appropriate given the amount of money spent on this program.

This has been a regular MO. Why was Corey Frazier starting and getting 80% of the snaps over Julius White who is twice the athlete? Why was Klein Kubiak playing so much this game, when we have Parks and Taylor and Hull?

This is exactly correct, IMO. Loyalty/seniority is more valued than production. On te surface, this sounds great. Unfortunately, I believe this sends the wrong message to the boys and coaches and compromises the quality of his team. I think TM, for example, learns a better life lesson if he understands that he must produce or someone else will. Maybe I misinterpret DB's MO but going back to John Shepherd, Driesbach, etc, it seems to be a problem

This. God bless our older players, but I see ALOT of mediocrity out there. Please, please put in some of the younger guys, and lets see what they can do. I would say especially at the wide receiver position: with the exception of Jordan Taylor, I would like to see some new blood out there. McCargue is taking alot of heat for the guys are JUST NOT GETTING OPEN. We've got a couple of redshirt freshman languishing on the sidelines...players I LOVED in the preseason scrimmages. Let them show what they can do.
I would say the same on defense. I don't care if you are a senior, if you aren't bringing anything to the game, put in a younger guy. At least its less embarrassing when they get beat on the same play every time.
We are a much better team than the one that showed up against the Coogs. Why don't we show it? Ugh.......

From what I saw, Bailiff tried to play ball control, and for the most part it worked until UH started forcing a bunch of 3 and outs in the 3rd quarter. This is a pretty standard strategy to play all these up tempo offenses.

I thought McHargue was good in the first half but really struggled in the second, and I don't know much about your QB situation, but it sounds like your coach wanted to let McHargue figure it out rather than replace him. Was that a good decision? I can't say.

It was a pretty sloppy game, with some predictably bad officiating. UH, also had to finally break out Greg Ward whom we had been waiting to see for a 2 games, and it was the first game for our new USC transfer at receiver, but he didn't have much of an impact.

Rice actually has quite a bit of talent, and was by far the best team we've seen this year. I think the only matchup that UH clearly won against Rice was WR's vs Rice secondary, and that was the difference in the game. The onside kick was really nice, and happened to be IMHO the second best one yesterday (next to the kicker that recovered his own kick!).

I think if you guys can get a kicker and an OC who can call a better game you should win C-USA.

(09-22-2013 09:05 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  The Mob was very clever and amusing for many years, but somewhere in the early 2000's, maybe 2002, they just seemed to have lost their way and interest from the students-being good for about one decent show a year. I understand that the Shepard School is an issue.

"That sort of reminds me of what has happenned to Saturday Night Live."

(09-22-2013 09:55 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  So what is the alternative to the MOB?

They can still be The MOB. Just play really good music. I've never been a big fan of bands marching anyway. That stuff is for grandmothers who don't really care for football but have to go and watch the game with the family. How long does it take to practice for two or three really great songs?

(09-22-2013 01:50 PM)sacoog06 Wrote:  I think if you guys can get a kicker and an OC who can call a better game you should win C-USA.

I appreciate the levelheaded talk and non-inflammatory comments, but we have one of the best kickers in the country. He just had a bad day yesterday, unfortunately.

I was pleased to hear that DB thinks we need to simplify things. An ex-pro qb made the same comment about our plays. He also felt we take way too much time getting off the play. The announcers on the broadcast observed that the UH qb was getting his next play from the sideline before the current play was over with. Plus they seldom took as much time as we did on the execution of the play.
I agree with the comments about DJ getting the next start. TM is banged up and lacking confidence.
But overall I lay 95% of the poor offensive performance on our OC.
And why do operate successfully at the end of the game when our back is against the wall? And even then we took way too much time.
Time of possession was almost 10 minutes in our favor and we ran 10 more plays than UH. not so sure if there is a correlation but if we had the ball 10 minutes longer and had only 10 more plays does that mean we were taking 60 seconds for each play? For those of you who went to Rice I would like for you to use your superior intellect and tell me if there is a correlation.
Defensively we gave up too many long plays. Callahan fell down and led to that completion. Gaines was pushed and allowed the receiver to get open. The announcers made the same observation and I asked Phillip after the game and he definitely said he was pushed. He is not a whiner so I believe. I also want to find out who had the coverage on the running back out of the backfield. When I find out I'll let you all know if you are interested.
We should not have lost that game.
Things have to change.
I still believe we can win out but only if we make some offensive adjustments.