It's clear to me that neither QB is Chase Clement. (On a possibly related note, Clement was never coached by Edmondson.) We shouldn't be calling 40 passes per game regardless of QB. I am surprised we didn't see more of Jackson, but it really doesn't make much difference when multiple defenders get into the backfield untouched.

ETA: defense had some nice moments but overall, giving up nearly 7 yards per play is not good.

(09-21-2013 07:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  For those thinking 7-5, where are the losses? We aren't playing another team the rest of the year that is as talented (perhaps) as the three teams we've seen already this year. Certainly two of the three at least. CUSA is not good. FIU (who we don't play) asked Louisville at the half to go with a running clock in the second half. Now that's embarrassing.

The talent gap in favor of Rice is not so great that it can overcome poor preparation or poor play. Plus, the Owls, for years, have been bad away from home.

1. at Tulsa - the Owls have not won there in years. Sure, Rice had the lead late last season, but they could not hold on.

2. at UTSA - the Roadrunners are vastly improved and should have a big, boisterous crowd.

3. at New Mexico State - Rice should win this one, but it will be the 3rd road game in 3 weeks, and that kind of travel can take its toll.

4. at North Texas - I think there is very little difference in talent between the Owls and UNT. Plus this is a road Thursday night game on short rest.

5. at UAB - the Blazers may not be world-beaters, but it's another road Thursday night game on short rest.

And, those are just the away games. Louisiana Tech, UTEP, and FAU won't be easy.

I am less inclined to blame McHargue though I do think we should see some Driphus regularly in the games (one half against a poor AFA team and one drive against KU isn't enough to think he is the next JFF). My gripes are with the staff. Players are going to make mistakes, like the INT especially when it was on 1st down (3rd down and maybe you try to squeeze it in there) but I'm upset because:
1. You are gutting them running Ross up the middle. Ross gets hurt. You don't get the same production from the other backs but you don't try Dillard until the 4th Q and whoa look at that...production up the middle.
2. Trying the FG with a minute to go in the half. If you punt UH has a minute and a very long field to go. But we give them a short field and instead of leading at the half we are trailing and momentum has switched.
3. I have absolutely no idea what the offensive game plan was in the entire 3Q.
4. Playing 3 and 4 wideouts when only Jordan can get any kind of separation on most plays. We had more success running the ball (and I liked the Pistol set which worked but then we threw it away).
5. Meerkat time was incredible. Austinowl73 suggests our TOP should be broken down by actual time running plays and time meerkatting. It appeared that Bailiff was perfectly happy late in the game before the blocked FG to use as much time as we could and maybe score then lose by10 or so and say it was a close game. I still think we get nothing out of all the looks to the sideline when NOTHING is going on. Plays aren't even signaled in until about 15 left of the clock so its not like we are changing plays...it just drives all of us crazy.
6.Bailiff again made Levine look like a good coach (really a FG on 4th down at the Rice 25 with Rice have zero time outs and you are up by 2 scores?) with his and Reagan's game plan.
7. Bailiff has always held back the players IMO it was only in 2008 that the players were able to overcome the coaching and prove to the staff they could play at a higher level than the staff was willing to admit. I do think we have better players but the coaching isn't allowing them to show it.

It was a very winnable game and yet only because of a block and onside kick recovery did we have a chance to win at the end. The team has been less prepared every week since the A&M game and it shows.

(09-21-2013 07:23 PM)RiceDad Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 07:20 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  FIU (who we don't play) asked Louisville at the half to go with a running clock in the second half. Now that's embarrassing.

Sorry, but what is a "running clock"?

UPDATED: Misunderstanding led to running clock in Louisville-FIU game | CollegeFootballTalk

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ouisville/ Wrote:UPDATE (6:10 p.m.): Conference USA Coordinator of Officials Gerald Austin released a statement to clear up the confusion on the running clock situation (Conference USA officials were used in the game). In it Austin explains there was a misinterpretation by the game’s officials. The statement reads:

Quote:“Coach Turner made a comment to one of the officials that, given the amount of injuries and the limited numbers of players he had available, he wanted to run the ball in the second half. One official misinterpreted that comment. Coach Turner, at no time requested that the clock run. FIU threw just one pass in the second half.

After reviewing the tape there were five times that the clock should have been stopped and it did not. Four times were on first down and one play where the runner went out of bounds, based on a quick review of the video.”

So there you go. It was all just a big misunderstanding.

The article is not explicit, but I'm guessing they don't stop the game clock in some situations in order to shorten the game.

(09-21-2013 06:20 PM)Buho00 Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 06:09 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 05:52 PM)sohummm Wrote:  I wonder how Driphus feels if he can't get on the field for more than 1 snap after that performance from QB.

Agreed. For whatever reason, so far this year, Taylor has consistently run out of gas-- and appeared to lose his focus and aggressiveness-- after the first 3 - 4 series of each game. Why in the world DB and Reagan stuck with him to the end in this one is mystifying, to say the least. It cost us the game, plain and simple.

I hope somebody asked the question after the game. Last year we stuck with McHargue vs Memphis and it cost us that game too. Driphus has won the last 2 Rice wins. Vs Air Force in bowl game and last week, lead last 2 scoring drives vs Kansas. Something must've happened with him.

DJ was unavailable for the Memphis game you are talking about.

(09-21-2013 06:26 PM)At Ease Wrote:  The other alternative of course is that a year later, we still hadn't prepared Driphus to read the defenses UH threw at him last season.

Seriously?? You have to be able to digest the information that you are taught. He DOES NOT GET IT!! Yes the 3-4 scripted plays he runs he does fine. Then he wings the rest. That is what the big argument was on the sideline last week was about. Also don't believe the bogus Mchargue concussion story either.

Rice has the talent to be a winning football team, no question. Its all in
how the coaches use their players. Neither Taylor nor DJ have touch on the long balls...Hence the HB pass, that was beautifully thrown today for a TD. There are QB's on the sideline that can throw the ball but I doubt the coaches will use them.

Just curious, when was the last time we won a game after recovering a must-get onside kick? I can think of a game where we lost a game like that (Iowa State in early 90's.)

Just got back. I feel the playcalling was atrocious after the on side kick, but I thought the main thing missing was Darek Dillard. I don't caer if he doesn't know the intricacies of the offense like Peterson. We needed Darek's skills big time in a game by the grace of God we should have won. When God graces you out, you had better be ready to take advantage of it. The offense has got to improve.

(09-21-2013 06:51 PM)sohummm Wrote:  

And you cannot execute an onside kick more perfectly than that. Just beautiful. We touched/recovered it just as it crossed the requisite 10-yard distance, and just barely in front of the defender. Just beautiful.

I completely agree. What the hell is Bailiff so in love with TMcg. Driphus was responsible for our Bowl win, not TMcQ. McQ sux and Bailiff sux. There is no reason for us to be beat by UH. We will not go undefeated for the rest of the season with Bailiff and Mcg. I am just so sick of the same crap. Out defense was unbelievable. It would have been lot worse without our defense.


Agreed. For whatever reason, so far this year, Taylor has consistently run out of gas-- and appeared to lose his focus and aggressiveness-- after the first 3 - 4 series of each game. Why in the world DB and Reagan stuck with him to the end in this one is mystifying, to say the least. It cost us the game, plain and simple.
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I hope somebody asked the question after the game. Last year we stuck with McHargue vs Memphis and it cost us that game too. Driphus has won the last 2 Rice wins. Vs Air Force in bowl game and last week, lead last 2 scoring drives vs Kansas. Something must've happened with him.
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Did we improve from game 1 against A&M to game 2 with KU? Did we improve from game 2 with KU to game 3 with UH? No and that is on the coaching.

In baseball every year UH thinks they will beat us but in the end Rice finds a way to win (and believes they will always find a way). In football the reverse is true. Coaching perhaps?

I think it is time to start DJ, just so the grass-is-greener crowd will shut up. i cannot see why they expect DJ to perform the rest of his college career at the same level or better as his AFA game. Lots of golfers have hit aces, but that is no reason to expect them to shoot 18 from now on. But we can try DJ.

i am very disappointed in this game, but to blame it all on one or two guys is just wrong. it is true that they win and lose as a team. lots of players could have done better on one or more plays that would have made a difference. i decline to start listing them.

Not getting why everyone is getting on McHargue this evening. From my perspective, he was by far our best player on offense today. Not much to do when your OL gets manhandled and your receivers can't get open. I'd have given Jackson all the snaps that Turner got, but not much more, Taylor gives us the best chance to win, as long as the coaches let him go (based on my assumption that it is the coaches who are trying to keep him up in the pocket where he has never appeared comfortable, because he probably isn't trying to turn himself into a pocket passer by himself this far along).

(09-21-2013 08:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  5. Meerkat time was incredible. Austinowl73 suggests our TOP should be broken down by actual time running plays and time meerkatting. It appeared that Bailiff was perfectly happy late in the game before the blocked FG to use as much time as we could and maybe score then lose by10 or so and say it was a close game. I still think we get nothing out of all the looks to the sideline when NOTHING is going on. Plays aren't even signaled in until about 15 left of the clock so its not like we are changing plays...it just drives all of us crazy.

There is a positive to meerkat-time - our defense is getting a rest too.
Even a three-and-out takes a couple of minutes.
There were at least a couple of instances of what could be loosely called "up-tempo", including the TD sneak.
I was marveling at the difference in the play clock at the snap for the two teams.

(09-21-2013 09:58 PM)Grungy Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 08:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  5. Meerkat time was incredible. Austinowl73 suggests our TOP should be broken down by actual time running plays and time meerkatting. It appeared that Bailiff was perfectly happy late in the game before the blocked FG to use as much time as we could and maybe score then lose by10 or so and say it was a close game. I still think we get nothing out of all the looks to the sideline when NOTHING is going on. Plays aren't even signaled in until about 15 left of the clock so its not like we are changing plays...it just drives all of us crazy.

There is a positive to meerkat-time - our defense is getting a rest too.
Even a three-and-out takes a couple of minutes.
There were at least a couple of instances of what could be loosely called "up-tempo", including the TD sneak.
I was marveling at the difference in the play clock at the snap for the two teams.

But the opponents defense gets to rest also while they are on the field. I'm just not a fan since I see no value if we aren't making adjustments. If the D shifts late then we only have a few seconds to audible and I've always thought the offense should dictate the speed of the game and defenses should adjust.

I haven't been able to bring myself to watch the DVR yet. From someone who watched the broadcast, what the heck happened on the blocked PAT? How did Simonette get hurt and did that lead to the block?

(09-21-2013 10:03 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  I haven't been able to bring myself to watch the DVR yet. From someone who watched the broadcast, what the heck happened on the blocked PAT? How did Simonette get hurt and did that lead to the block?

It looks like another DVR replay like last week. Watch a couple of plays then DELETE.

(09-21-2013 09:45 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I think it is time to start DJ, just so the grass-is-greener crowd will shut up. i cannot see why they expect DJ to perform the rest of his college career at the same level or better as his AFA game. Lots of golfers have hit aces, but that is no reason to expect them to shoot 18 from now on. But we can try DJ.

i am very disappointed in this game, but to blame it all on one or two guys is just wrong. it is true that they win and lose as a team. lots of players could have done better on one or more plays that would have made a difference. i decline to start listing them.

+1000 to your second paragraph Buddy.

Just another gripe whether it be a coaching decision or QB, why were there so many passes downfield (15+ yds) to Peterson in crucial situations? Hitting a tailback on a go route probably isn't your best option when trying to pick up a first down. Just unintelligent football today. Doesn't help to watch Stanford tonight put on an absolute clinic against Toad with pretty similar talent to us.

Dear Karlgaard,

Feel free to bring over Stanford's best available coach that will know how to win at a school like ours.

(09-21-2013 10:08 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  

(09-21-2013 09:45 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  i am very disappointed in this game, but to blame it all on one or two guys is just wrong. it is true that they win and lose as a team. lots of players could have done better on one or more plays that would have made a difference. i decline to start listing them.

+1000 to your second paragraph Buddy.

Agreed--and we can do better than post non-constructive criticisms of individual players.