(08-04-2013 07:16 PM)Antarius Wrote:  IMO, a lot of the stuff he has done and been reported on/occasionally vilified for in the media is similar stuff that many of us did at that age.

I was quite a bit older before my signature would bring 5 figures.

But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Doesn't he come from a rich family? Not like he's hurting for money

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

How many would "handle this any different[ly]"? If by "this" you mean the decision of whether or not to comply with an explicit, well-known, and easily understood rule that is hammered into you from the first day you sign as a scholarship athlete, the answer is: almost everyone.

(08-04-2013 07:52 PM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  Or, of course, if the autograph thing is true ... Johnny Hancock.

(Admit I borrowed this from a buddy of mine.)

Except that when Hancock signed his document, he was not collecting his fortune, he was risking it -- along with, as the document says, his life and his sacred honor.

(08-05-2013 08:25 AM)07owl Wrote:  Doesn't he come from a rich family? Not like he's hurting for money

Neither are Wall Street bankers but it doesn't matter how much you have most want more.

Personally I am kind of surprised that the UT students who hacked the GPS code to the yacht haven't hacked A&M's student records and posted what kind of online courses Johnny is taking. I think it would be pretty interesting to see what work he is actually doing to stay eligible.

(08-05-2013 08:37 AM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

How many would "handle this any different[ly]"? If by "this" you mean the decision of whether or not to comply with an explicit, well-known, and easily understood rule that is hammered into you from the first day you sign as a scholarship athlete, the answer is: almost everyone.

Exactly. Whether or not you agree with the rules and how the NCAA works, you know that you have to comply with the rules, or risk severe consequences.

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

(08-05-2013 09:56 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

I thought the girl admitted it wasn't him.

(08-05-2013 09:00 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 08:25 AM)07owl Wrote:  Doesn't he come from a rich family? Not like he's hurting for money

Neither are Wall Street bankers but it doesn't matter how much you have most want more.

Roman proverb: "Money is like seawater: the more you drink, the thirstier you become."

(08-05-2013 10:38 AM)Converted Rice Wrote:  I thought the girl admitted it wasn't him.

Not that I've seen, but I wouldn't consider that dispositive

(08-04-2013 11:10 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  Doesn't have the discipline or doesn't have the academic advisors and coaches to impose the necessary discipline. I know not all kids will make it regardless, but the support structure does make an difference. One thing I learned to embrace wholeheartedly as a youth football and soccer and basketball coach is that kids will live up or down you your expectations as long as they know what those expectations are. I have to believe that would be true with Johnny Football too.

Yeah, I feel a lot of this is on Sumlin.

There were zero consequences to his assault and arrest last summer.

This spring he's allowed to do his own thing, taking only online courses.

(08-05-2013 01:05 PM)At Ease Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 11:10 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  Doesn't have the discipline or doesn't have the academic advisors and coaches to impose the necessary discipline. I know not all kids will make it regardless, but the support structure does make an difference. One thing I learned to embrace wholeheartedly as a youth football and soccer and basketball coach is that kids will live up or down you your expectations as long as they know what those expectations are. I have to believe that would be true with Johnny Football too.

Yeah, I feel a lot of this is on Sumlin.

There were zero consequences to his assault and arrest last summer.

This spring he's allowed to do his own thing, taking only online courses.

I'm sure we will see Johnny Cash taking this field against Rice. I mean, Sumlin managed to get 6 years of eligibility for Keenum - think something like this will stop him?

(08-05-2013 01:53 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 01:05 PM)At Ease Wrote:  

(08-04-2013 11:10 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  Doesn't have the discipline or doesn't have the academic advisors and coaches to impose the necessary discipline. I know not all kids will make it regardless, but the support structure does make an difference. One thing I learned to embrace wholeheartedly as a youth football and soccer and basketball coach is that kids will live up or down you your expectations as long as they know what those expectations are. I have to believe that would be true with Johnny Football too.

Yeah, I feel a lot of this is on Sumlin.

There were zero consequences to his assault and arrest last summer.

This spring he's allowed to do his own thing, taking only online courses.

I'm sure we will see Johnny Cash taking this field against Rice. I mean, Sumlin managed to get 6 years of eligibility for Keenum - think something like this will stop him?

I honesty think A&M is ripe for an upset because of Johnny Football. Even if he skates on the autographs he is one drunken weekend away from pulling a stunt that the A&M Administration can't ignore.

Unfortunately, it appears Manziel isn't just an immature kid making some minor errors in judgement.
There's quite a bit more information out there pertaining to his character and mental health that is better left unsaid.

"I thought the girl admitted it wasn't him."

I wonder how many claims of "Come home with me for the night; I am Johnny football" are spoken in the bars of the State of Texas, on any given night.

(08-05-2013 10:23 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:56 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

"Ah, those are my favorite!! I love pics of dudes' junk," said no girl ever.

A starting A$M Defensive Lineman was suspended for Rice game for pulling a pistol during the offseason, but no decision made on Johnny.

Lets see who gets the QB Reps the next couple-three weeks.