(08-05-2013 05:53 PM)smackdaddy Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 10:23 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:56 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

"Ah, those are my favorite!! I love pics of dudes' junk," said no girl ever.

I'll show you a picture of my junk--- it's a totalled pickup truck that they had to cut me out of.

(08-05-2013 06:10 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 05:53 PM)smackdaddy Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 10:23 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:56 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:29 AM)texowl2 Wrote:  But how many 1000's (millions?) has eATMe generated from him? Not to mention the autograph dealers? This week's sports ill had a long article on this that was pretty balanced. He is 20 yrs old (with a bit or a lot of cockiness) and how many would handle this any different-look at the beibers and lohans of the world-not too many can do so

Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

"Ah, those are my favorite!! I love pics of dudes' junk," said no girl ever.

I'll show you a picture of my junk--- it's a totalled pickup truck that they had to cut me out of.

TMI man...

(08-05-2013 06:19 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:10 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 05:53 PM)smackdaddy Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 10:23 AM)07owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 09:56 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  Is RG III handling the spotlight well? I don't follow the news about him.

Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

"Ah, those are my favorite!! I love pics of dudes' junk," said no girl ever.

I'll show you a picture of my junk--- it's a totalled pickup truck that they had to cut me out of.

TMI man...

Looks like there is a "personal assistant" involved in the matter. Golly gee how did this escape A$M's attention? Is this the A$M hired Handler that supposedly watches him?

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9539990

(08-05-2013 06:28 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:19 PM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:10 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 05:53 PM)smackdaddy Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 10:23 AM)07owl Wrote:  Depends how you feel about sending photos of your junk to some girl hours before your wedding

"Ah, those are my favorite!! I love pics of dudes' junk," said no girl ever.

I'll show you a picture of my junk--- it's a totalled pickup truck that they had to cut me out of.

TMI man...

Looks like there is a "personal assistant" involved in the matter. Golly gee how did this escape A$M's attention? Is this the A$M hired Handler that supposedly watches him?

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9539990

No it is a friend of Johnny's. Don't know how he got the job and what the job description was (unless he is over 21 and is supposed to hold Johnny's booze when they are in clubs and the TABC shows up).

(08-05-2013 06:28 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Looks like there is a "personal assistant" involved in the matter. Golly gee how did this escape A$M's attention? Is this the A$M hired Handler that supposedly watches him?

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9539990

It's not an excuse for Manziel to ignore the rules, but it's sad that so many people use players like Manziel as cash cows. An example from the article linked above:

Quote:The value of Manziel is clear in the memorabilia and appearance market: Independent merchandiser Aggieland Outfitters recently auctioned off six helmets signed by Manziel and Texas A&M's other Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow, for $81,000.

If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  

(08-05-2013 06:28 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Looks like there is a "personal assistant" involved in the matter. Golly gee how did this escape A$M's attention? Is this the A$M hired Handler that supposedly watches him?

http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=9539990

It's not an excuse for Manziel to ignore the rules, but it's sad that so many people use players like Manziel as cash cows. An example from the article linked above:

Quote:The value of Manziel is clear in the memorabilia and appearance market: Independent merchandiser Aggieland Outfitters recently auctioned off six helmets signed by Manziel and Texas A&M's other Heisman Trophy winner, John David Crow, for $81,000.

If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

This sounds like Reggie Bush Part II.

I'm surprised more isn't also being made out of this statement, as noted in the third paragraph of the article from above:

Quote:Besides saying Manziel would no longer sign autographs for free, Fitch, according to the broker, also said he could provide other current standout college football players for autograph sessions in which the players would need to be paid.

In particular, there are other current standouts that would need to be paid for autograph sessions? And Fitch, in particular, is fronting for said college football players, despite being someone that is supposed to be watching out for Manziel and was his friend?

This has the potential to get huge, but no one will likely speak to the NCAA unless they are a current student-athlete.

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

That's a sleazy business, but nobody forced Manziel to enable it.

(08-06-2013 12:31 PM)gsloth Wrote:  I'm surprised more isn't also being made out of this statement, as noted in the third paragraph of the article from above:

Quote:Besides saying Manziel would no longer sign autographs for free, Fitch, according to the broker, also said he could provide other current standout college football players for autograph sessions in which the players would need to be paid.

In particular, there are other current standouts that would need to be paid for autograph sessions? And Fitch, in particular, is fronting for said college football players, despite being someone that is supposed to be watching out for Manziel and was his friend?

This has the potential to get huge, but no one will likely speak to the NCAA unless they are a current student-athlete.

I think the legal term for this is "Agent" and you know the players involved aren't doing it without some form of compensation.

Solely from the perspective of increasing exposure for Rice football, it's better that Manziel does play in the opener. While beating A&M is unlikely, Rice's chances of winning are about the same whether Manziel plays or not. A&M's gameplan is likely to try and run the ball down our throats first and foremost. They have a strong stable of RBs and a great O-line, so I am thinking they will try to keep the passing as simple and vanilla as possible, saving the surprises for their key clashes in the following games.

While Manziel might ultimately be suspended, it won't be before the A&M-Alabama game. Too much money riding on that, and the NCAA will take its time to "investigate" all these allegations...

(08-06-2013 12:53 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

That's a sleazy business, but nobody forced Manziel to enable it.

ESPN reporting that on one occasion Johnny was paid $7500 for autographs.

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

There is very little in Manziel's life that suggests exploitation.

From the other side of this, hypocrisy at its best:

http://deadspin.com/reminder-johnny-manz...1043958657

(08-06-2013 02:07 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 12:53 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote:  That's a sleazy business, but nobody forced Manziel to enable it.

ESPN reporting that on one occasion Johnny was paid $7500 for autographs.

Just to clarify my comment, part of the defense of Manziel seems to be that the autograph dealers shouldn't be able to exploit him by keeping all of the money from his autograph. That ignores the fact that he doesn't have to do autographs and especially not in bulk.

(08-06-2013 02:07 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 12:53 PM)Gravy Owl Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

That's a sleazy business, but nobody forced Manziel to enable it.

ESPN reporting that on one occasion Johnny was paid $7500 for autographs.

I blame the NCAA for a lot of things, but this is NOT one of them. This new ESPN report cites a different autograph broker who says Manziel's buddy, Nate Fitch, was not involved in his deal, and he has Manziel on video signing and saying, "you never did a signing with me." In other words, this is all Johnny Douchebag. It's not like he doesn't have a ton of other examples of bad behavior. These signings are not an outlier; they 100% fit his profile.

TexAgs implosion is a great work break right now. Those clowns would defend him if he killed their own mothers.

(08-06-2013 02:42 PM)georgewebb Wrote:  

(08-06-2013 08:51 AM)Caelligh Wrote:  If Manziel can't sell his own autograph, should a retail shop be allowed to profit so much from his autograph? Too bad the NCAA isn't interested in protecting student athletes from exploitation.

There is very little in Manziel's life that suggests exploitation.

I didn't mean to imply that I thought Manziel should be paid for the autographs or that he didn't bring this on himself. I was using him as an example of how people profit shamelessly from the successes of student athletes.

I do not think anyone should be that surprised. This is typical of the SEC.

As this escalates, I just hope that he's had the good sense to pay the proper estimated federal and state withholding taxes. That's always how the man brings you down!