This guy's opinion is that Manziel will be suspended for 1 or 2 games. If so, I am sure Sumlin would rather those be the first two.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08/11/...n-has.html

(08-12-2013 03:00 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  This guy's opinion is that Manziel will be suspended for 1 or 2 games. If so, I am sure Sumlin would rather those be the first two.

http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/08/11/...n-has.html

If its limited to two games, then somebody better admit to something quick and get the ruling from the NCAA. Otherwise he will be sitting until the NCAA wants to rule.

LOL. More signings! Apparently this kid doesn't understand the concept of market saturation.

JOHNNY FOOTBALL WILL SIGN *ANYTHING*

Heck, at this rate I definitely hope the kid plays in the season opener. No chance his throws will be any good; the little douchebag's gotta have carpal tunnel by now...

(08-12-2013 12:40 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  I like the sound of 14-0 better than 13-1*.

Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 12:40 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  I like the sound of 14-0 better than 13-1*.

Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

(08-12-2013 11:45 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 12:40 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  I like the sound of 14-0 better than 13-1*.

Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

Scoring a one-point safety as your ONLY point of the game would require a REALLY bizarre set of occurrences. Knowing us, we'd probably get the ball in position for it to happen with about 20 consecutive false starts.

(08-12-2013 08:06 PM)smackdaddy Wrote:  LOL. More signings! Apparently this kid doesn't understand the concept of market saturation.

JOHNNY FOOTBALL WILL SIGN *ANYTHING*

Heck, at this rate I definitely hope the kid plays in the season opener. No chance his throws will be any good; the little douchebag's gotta have carpal tunnel by now...

Maybe someone will introduce him to Dr. Brown and then his life will completely fall apart.

I think two seldom ever used NCAA bylaws will come into play here, allowing Manziel to play. The "different rules for different schools" bylaw and the "SEC - seldom ever caught" bylaw. I just think it all skates until he is finished with the season and gone.

(08-13-2013 01:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:45 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 12:40 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  I like the sound of 14-0 better than 13-1*.

Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

Scoring a one-point safety as your ONLY point of the game would require a REALLY bizarre set of occurrences. Knowing us, we'd probably get the ball in position for it to happen with about 20 consecutive false starts.

I had to go look this up. I think I might be even more confused now...

Manziel family history. Interesting stuff...

http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the...1040593220

All I know is that Johnny Football's off-season antics are giving Rice a HUGE opportunity that I hope the team and coaches can seize. I hope Johnny plays (and faces whatever ramifications after the Rice game ... no excuses) but a distracted A&M is shocked by Rice in front of a national audience, and Rice can spin a shocking victory into a fantastic season that puts and keeps the team on the college football map for the foreseeable future. So go ahead Johnny Football, keep yourself in the headlines, distracting your team as much as possible and keeping the focus off those Owls down in Houston.

(08-13-2013 11:55 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote:  Manziel family history. Interesting stuff...

http://deadspin.com/the-long-con-how-the...1040593220

Wow. "Who Do You Think You Are", Johnny Football?

(08-13-2013 11:38 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 01:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:45 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 12:40 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  I like the sound of 14-0 better than 13-1*.

Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

Scoring a one-point safety as your ONLY point of the game would require a REALLY bizarre set of occurrences. Knowing us, we'd probably get the ball in position for it to happen with about 20 consecutive false starts.

I had to go look this up. I think I might be even more confused now...

1-point safety happens only on PATs. For A&M to score it on one of our PATs, we would have to be tackled in our own end zone after having carried the ball in their ourselves, or have the ball go out of bounds in our own endzone. For example, a 107-yard fumble of the snap would do it.

A more realistic -- but you can still see how far-fetched this is -- example is as follows: PAT and Rice is going for 1. Snap/hold goes awry and holder tries to force a pass to salvage the points. ATM D-line picks it off and chugs down the field. Winded, the Aggie slows down allowing an Owl to strip the ball around the Rice 5 yard line. Owl recovers the fumble and, after establishing possession, gets lit up, thus fumbling the ball across the Rice goal line before it goes out of bounds..

The most valuable Johnny Football autograph should be the rarest, his signature on a blue exam book.

(08-13-2013 08:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  The most valuable Johnny Football autograph should be the rarest, his signature on a blue exam book.

Does A&M have an Honor Code that requires signing off on exams?

(08-13-2013 08:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  The most valuable Johnny Football autograph should be the rarest, his signature on a blue exam book.

wouldn't that require more than an online course??

(08-13-2013 08:40 PM)owlatheart Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 08:07 PM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  The most valuable Johnny Football autograph should be the rarest, his signature on a blue exam book.

wouldn't that require more than an online course??

Bingo!

(08-13-2013 06:48 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 11:38 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 01:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:45 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

Scoring a one-point safety as your ONLY point of the game would require a REALLY bizarre set of occurrences. Knowing us, we'd probably get the ball in position for it to happen with about 20 consecutive false starts.

I had to go look this up. I think I might be even more confused now...

1-point safety happens only on PATs. For A&M to score it on one of our PATs, we would have to be tackled in our own end zone after having carried the ball in their ourselves, or have the ball go out of bounds in our own endzone. For example, a 107-yard fumble of the snap would do it.

A more realistic -- but you can still see how far-fetched this is -- example is as follows: PAT and Rice is going for 1. Snap/hold goes awry and holder tries to force a pass to salvage the points. ATM D-line picks it off and chugs down the field. Winded, the Aggie slows down allowing an Owl to strip the ball around the Rice 5 yard line. Owl recovers the fumble and, after establishing possession, gets lit up, thus fumbling the ball across the Rice goal line before it goes out of bounds..

Only one I've ever heard of came in a UT-A&M game a few years ago. (It was on a botched 2-pt. conversion--if I remember correctly, the pass was intercepted, the defensive player ran it out of the endzone, he fumbled it back into the endzone, and another defensive player recovered it there. Officials ruled it a 1 pt. safety, and pretty much everyone not wearing a striped shirt in the stadium and broadcast booths were very, very confused. Only time I've ever seen a team go for 2 and get 1.)

One point safety happened last January in the Oregon vs Kansas State game. I had never seen that happen until that game. The official gives a good explanation in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp4TeP4rw0s

(08-13-2013 06:48 PM)texd Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 11:38 AM)Antarius Wrote:  

(08-13-2013 01:43 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:45 PM)RiceDoc Wrote:  

(08-12-2013 11:14 PM)texd Wrote:  Me too, but I wouldn't be that sad if the only point A&M got against us was a 1-point safety.

Scoring a one-point safety as your ONLY point of the game would require a REALLY bizarre set of occurrences. Knowing us, we'd probably get the ball in position for it to happen with about 20 consecutive false starts.

I had to go look this up. I think I might be even more confused now...

1-point safety happens only on PATs. For A&M to score it on one of our PATs, we would have to be tackled in our own end zone after having carried the ball in their ourselves, or have the ball go out of bounds in our own endzone. For example, a 107-yard fumble of the snap would do it.
A more realistic -- but you can still see how far-fetched this is -- example is as follows: PAT and Rice is going for 1. Snap/hold goes awry and holder tries to force a pass to salvage the points. ATM D-line picks it off and chugs down the field. Winded, the Aggie slows down allowing an Owl to strip the ball around the Rice 5 yard line. Owl recovers the fumble and, after establishing possession, gets lit up, thus fumbling the ball across the Rice goal line before it goes out of bounds..

I think that's probably the MOST likely way for it to occur, and as you note that simply attests to how far-fetched the whole idea is. I don't believe an 1-point safety has ever been scored against the team attempting the conversion. I believe the very few that have been scored have been against the defense, and of course that would not be the only score of the game for the team attempting the conversion.