(07-20-2013 11:19 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  No school is immune to trouble. I think we should all keep that in mind before casting stones at other programs.

Truer words have never been spoken on a sport message board. Hope the kids involved get their priorities/lives straightened out, if indeed they actually did what the media is reporting.

Quote:Jones has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault. His bond is set at $30,000.

O'Neal has been charged with aiding and abetting. He is being held on $20,000 bond.

Not cheap. Figure the bondsmen charge about 12-15%... that could be 3 or 4 thousand to get out before trial. Some families can handle that, and some cannot.

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

If you don't believe me, Google "Eldred King".

I've been in Germantown playing golf all day with some Tiger fans and attended my college roommate's birthday party. Just got home. I wondered why I got a text from madtiger around 9:30 tonight asking me why Jeb Hill was tweeting about me. I didn't figure it was to solicit my Highland Hundred dues for this season.

Go Blue Raiders!

(07-20-2013 11:41 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:18 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:14 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:09 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  officially written, but not a bad response from coach Standstill.

Standstill. You just made that up, didn't you?

opps, small typo...

Standstill is what ECU fans called him when he was OC for one season there a decade ago.

Call him what you want, but he is 4-2 against Western...

1 and 1 against a real WKU team. Counting wins against an FCS transitional team is pretty bush league.

Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

(07-21-2013 01:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:41 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:18 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:14 PM)Blue Raider Dave Wrote:  Standstill. You just made that up, didn't you?

opps, small typo...

Standstill is what ECU fans called him when he was OC for one season there a decade ago.

Call him what you want, but he is 4-2 against Western...

1 and 1 against a real WKU team. Counting wins against an FCS transitional team is pretty bush league.

Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

It is 2-1. My bad. I was thinking we were not full fbs until 2011. It was actually 2010. We have been full bowl eligible FBS in 10, 11, 12. In that span the road team has won every game. So we will just have to wait one more year to settle the score.

All 3 games have been incredibly competitive and close.

(07-21-2013 01:17 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

If you don't believe me, Google "Eldred King".

Go Blue Raiders!

Well, if they're shown the door, Memphis no doubt will be interested in them.

(07-21-2013 06:00 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:17 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

If you don't believe me, Google "Eldred King".

Go Blue Raiders!

Well, if they're shown the door, Memphis no doubt will be interested in them.

Yep.

And at Middle Tennessee, suspended means suspended and permanently dismissed is actually permanent. What a novel idea.

I'm sure troy and stAte have already contacted the players

(07-21-2013 07:06 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 06:00 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:17 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

If you don't believe me, Google "Eldred King".

Go Blue Raiders!

Well, if they're shown the door, Memphis no doubt will be interested in them.

Yep.

And at Middle Tennessee, suspended means suspended and permanently dismissed is actually permanent. What a novel idea.

According to MTSU's official website as of this writing, two of the players arrested (Jared Singletary and Marcus Henry) in February 2013 remain on the 2013 Roster.

http://www.goblueraiders.com/roster.cfm/...eason/2013

There has been a string of arrests lately under Stockdale's watch but I do not blame him and do not think MTSU has a culture accepting of lawlessness. I hope the young men turn their life around.

(07-21-2013 01:17 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

According to the MTSU spokesman (Sgt Broedy Stukcy), the alleged assaults occurred in “a series of various events,” including last November.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/201307...072/sports

There are some folks who could conclude that the coaching staff knew or should have known about the bad behavior and should have acted sooner to discipline the players.

I think the MTSU coaching staff cannot monitor all their players all the time. Each player has to take responsibility for their own actions.

(07-20-2013 09:11 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Since Middle fans are always quick on the draw to post if one of our players gets in trouble, I thought I would just return the favor here.

Hope these kids learn from their mistakes and can get on with life.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/22892837/mtsu-...r-arrested

Click on the link above for the entire story.

Quote:MURFREESBORO, TN (WSMV) -

Three football players from Middle Tennessee State University have been suspended from the team, following an altercation Saturday.

Sophomores James De'Angelo "J.D." Jones, Rodney O'Neal and Marcus Robinson were suspended from the team on Saturday.

Jones has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault. His bond is set at $30,000.

O'Neal has been charged with aiding and abetting. He is being held on $20,000 bond.

It is unclear if Robinson has been charged, although MTSU officials confirm he was involved in the incident.

I would rather it be our players than our slime ball coach.

(07-21-2013 02:37 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:41 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:18 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  opps, small typo...

Standstill is what ECU fans called him when he was OC for one season there a decade ago.

Call him what you want, but he is 4-2 against Western...

1 and 1 against a real WKU team. Counting wins against an FCS transitional team is pretty bush league.

Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

It is 2-1. My bad. I was thinking we were not full fbs until 2011. It was actually 2010. We have been full bowl eligible FBS in 10, 11, 12. In that span the road team has won every game. So we will just have to wait one more year to settle the score.

All 3 games have been incredibly competitive and close.

It was actually 2009. 2007 FCS transitional, 2008 FBS transitional, 2009 full FBS.

(07-20-2013 09:11 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Since Middle fans are always quick on the draw to post if one of our players gets in trouble, I thought I would just return the favor here.

The fact that you felt compelled to justify posting this is telling. Be a troll or don't, but don't half ass it if you're going to troll and say you're only doing it because "Middle fans...".

(07-21-2013 11:10 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 02:37 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:41 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Standstill is what ECU fans called him when he was OC for one season there a decade ago.

Call him what you want, but he is 4-2 against Western...

1 and 1 against a real WKU team. Counting wins against an FCS transitional team is pretty bush league.

Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

It is 2-1. My bad. I was thinking we were not full fbs until 2011. It was actually 2010. We have been full bowl eligible FBS in 10, 11, 12. In that span the road team has won every game. So we will just have to wait one more year to settle the score.

All 3 games have been incredibly competitive and close.

It was actually 2009. 2007 FCS transitional, 2008 FBS transitional, 2009 full FBS.

We played an FBS schedule but we were not eligible for post season play.

(07-21-2013 11:32 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 11:10 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 02:37 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 11:41 PM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  1 and 1 against a real WKU team. Counting wins against an FCS transitional team is pretty bush league.

Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

It is 2-1. My bad. I was thinking we were not full fbs until 2011. It was actually 2010. We have been full bowl eligible FBS in 10, 11, 12. In that span the road team has won every game. So we will just have to wait one more year to settle the score.

All 3 games have been incredibly competitive and close.

It was actually 2009. 2007 FCS transitional, 2008 FBS transitional, 2009 full FBS.

We played an FBS schedule but we were not eligible for post season play.

You are mistaken my friend, you guys were full members of FBS and the Sun Belt in 2009.

(07-21-2013 06:00 AM)SpaceRaider Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:17 AM)TG4 Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 10:41 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I'm sure TG4 is proud of his team...I just hope it wasn't a domestic assault...he'd have to find someone else to root for...that would be like his 3rd team in 5 years...tough break for a good kid.

Our AD and Head Coach will do the right thing. As someone else posted, MT doesn't try to cover it up and deals with it accordingly. Chris Massaro and I had a long discussion about this kind of thing just last Tuesday. If the players are guilty, they'll probably be gone. Domestic assault is not tolerated at Middle Tennessee.

If you don't believe me, Google "Eldred King".

Go Blue Raiders!

Well, if they're shown the door, Memphis no doubt will be interested in them.

Depends how good they are.

(07-21-2013 10:38 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  

(07-20-2013 09:11 PM)topper1296 Wrote:  Since Middle fans are always quick on the draw to post if one of our players gets in trouble, I thought I would just return the favor here.

Hope these kids learn from their mistakes and can get on with life.

http://www.wsmv.com/story/22892837/mtsu-...r-arrested

Click on the link above for the entire story.

Quote:MURFREESBORO, TN (WSMV) -

Three football players from Middle Tennessee State University have been suspended from the team, following an altercation Saturday.

Sophomores James De'Angelo "J.D." Jones, Rodney O'Neal and Marcus Robinson were suspended from the team on Saturday.

Jones has been charged with two counts of aggravated assault. His bond is set at $30,000.

O'Neal has been charged with aiding and abetting. He is being held on $20,000 bond.

It is unclear if Robinson has been charged, although MTSU officials confirm he was involved in the incident.

I would rather it be our players than our slime ball coach.

Why do you feel your coach is a "slime ball"?

(07-21-2013 09:31 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  According to MTSU's official website as of this writing, two of the players arrested (Jared Singletary and Marcus Henry) in February 2013 remain on the 2013 Roster.

The whole story isn't told here though. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time, taking up for your teammate and then being singled out cause you play football is not the same thing as some of the other things that happen.

Can't recall if the charges were dropped for those two or if they just got a fine, but it wasn't a big deal. Those can be handled internally without dismissing

This latest one - on the surface - doesn't sound too good, but we haven't heard all of the details yet. If it is bad make no mistake there is zero tolerance for serious crimes. If true they will be dismissed and probably kicked out of school.

(07-21-2013 12:08 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 09:31 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  According to MTSU's official website as of this writing, two of the players arrested (Jared Singletary and Marcus Henry) in February 2013 remain on the 2013 Roster.

The whole story isn't told here though. Being in the wrong place at the wrong time, taking up for your teammate and then being singled out cause you play football is not the same thing as some of the other things that happen.

Can't recall if the charges were dropped for those two or if they just got a fine, but it wasn't a big deal. Those can be handled internally without dismissing

This latest one - on the surface - doesn't sound too good, but we haven't heard all of the details yet. If it is bad make no mistake there is zero tolerance for serious crimes. If true they will be dismissed and probably kicked out of school.

It's true. Some things sound worse in the initial reports sometimes. Wait for the full story and then judge.

(07-21-2013 11:42 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 11:32 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 11:10 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 02:37 AM)TOPPERSonTOP Wrote:  

(07-21-2013 01:49 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Bush league? You beat us in 2007, your first year in transition, a game I counted. Your count is still off, you guys were in transition in 2007 and 2008, we split those two games, but that still means he's 3-1, not 1-1, not sure where you got that number. So if you wanna call it 3-1, that's fine by me I suppose, that's a better winning percentage for Stock...

It is 2-1. My bad. I was thinking we were not full fbs until 2011. It was actually 2010. We have been full bowl eligible FBS in 10, 11, 12. In that span the road team has won every game. So we will just have to wait one more year to settle the score.

All 3 games have been incredibly competitive and close.

It was actually 2009. 2007 FCS transitional, 2008 FBS transitional, 2009 full FBS.

We played an FBS schedule but we were not eligible for post season play.

You are mistaken my friend, you guys were full members of FBS and the Sun Belt in 2009.

You are wrong. We were in the sun belt but still were not eligible for postseason play. Deny it all you want but i am positive on this matter.