(07-18-2013 12:59 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.

What are you smoking?

(07-18-2013 09:04 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 12:59 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.

What are you smoking?

What did I say that was so wrong? Villanova has been better than Temple in basketball. They have a great FCS program. They are in a great area and are a great academic school.

This thread is funny. Is the ACC mad at lowly Temple for embarrassing them? Upseting #3 Duke at the Wells Fargo Center, upsetting top 10 Cuse at MSG last season, ruining a favored NC State's dreams in the tournament. Oh yeah, then there's Maryland basketball who fell to Temple twice straight the last few years. And don't bring up Maryland football getting destroyed at the Byrd. To lowly Temple! Who has what, 1/20 the athletic revenue that ACC members get? Yeah, the ACC shouldn't want Temple because if they had the same revenue and conference to recruit in, they might do more of this week in, week out before the second biggest city on the Atlantic coast. You're better off taking UConn, a school with no market who's lost three times straight now to Temple in football. Or Cincy, a smaller market in the Midwest with a stadium half the size and worse academics.

(07-18-2013 09:23 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:04 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 12:59 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.

What are you smoking?

What did I say that was so wrong? Villanova has been better than Temple in basketball. They have a great FCS program. They are in a great area and are a great academic school.

Villanova has a great basketball program but there is little potential for football. Temple had to get political pressure from the city to get into the Linc. They won't lose it. So Villanova would have to play in a soccer stadium in Chester. You think Mainline fans are gonna trek down there to watch Nova lose? They don't have the money to be competitive at both sports. Almost no private schools do.

I think temple could work very well in the acc but the catch is the acc would need to jump to 18 + ND football would be off the table. Under the setup, the acc would add uconn, cincy and temple + a football only (navy or byu), than break off into two 9 team divisions. Of course, the acc probably doesn't want to shut the door on ND football + they might prefer to add gtown or WVU instead of temple and go with the same setup.

ACC

atlantic: BC, Uconn, Cuse, Pitt, Temple, Lville, Cincy, ND, Miami
coastal: Unc, duke, Nc State, Wake, Uva, Va tech, Clem, GTech, FSU

football only: navy or BYU in the atlantic

limited cross over between two divisions other than tourney/champ game, 2 weekend event for hoops + start a network.

(07-17-2013 06:55 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 06:27 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 06:23 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Temple can dream.

It's a lot more likely than NIU, I'll tell you that much.

What does Northern Illinois have to do with anything?

LOL i assume he looked at your "I root for" and saw NAU and read it wrong. Anyway, NIU to the ACC! Book it!

I can see Temple getting real consideration, especially if the ACC loses another school or two. Temple, UConn, Cincinnati would be the obvious contenders (maybe there are less obvious ones, don't really care).

I'm not suggesting the ACC will lose any more schools, but if the Big XII needs a championship game and the money is there, I could see that conference helping pay the court costs and fees to get the teams they want. I don't think the Big XII wants anyone from the American Athletic or MWC so paying out the nose for a couple ACC schools may be its most preferred option.

If the above hypothetical happens, the ACC will be fine picking up a couple AAC schools if they want to be at 14 (which is uncertain itself). The American Athletic would be screwed, again.

(07-18-2013 09:58 AM)Blackhawk-eye Wrote:  I can see Temple getting real consideration, especially but only if the ACC loses another school or two.

Fixed it.

Nonsense. Sheer nonsense.

(07-18-2013 09:28 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  This thread is funny. Is the ACC mad at lowly Temple for embarrassing them? Upseting #3 Duke at the Wells Fargo Center, upsetting top 10 Cuse at MSG last season, ruining a favored NC State's dreams in the tournament. Oh yeah, then there's Maryland basketball who fell to Temple twice straight the last few years. And don't bring up Maryland football getting destroyed at the Byrd. To lowly Temple! Who has what, 1/20 the athletic revenue that ACC members get? Yeah, the ACC shouldn't want Temple because if they had the same revenue and conference to recruit in, they might do more of this week in, week out before the second biggest city on the Atlantic coast.

You're better off taking UConn, a school with no market who's lost three times straight now to Temple in football.

Or Cincy, a smaller market in the Midwest with a stadium half the size and worse academics.

Hey, I'm on your side when it comes to the viability of Temple's program, but no need to slur other upwardly mobile candidates.

Comparing UConn & Temple:

1. Unless there was a secret game I don't know about, UConn is 3-2 vs Temple since the Huskies moved to FBS football. So I don't know how you came up with 3 straight wins for Temple over UConn. One of the 2 wins which Temple has over Uconn was in OT. Temple has hardly dominated UConn.

2. How does UConn have no market? They're the only game in town in a state of 3.6 million people with no instate competition from any other college or pro sports team. Temple is in the city of Philadelphia with a population of 1.5 million and direct competition in college basketball from Villanova and the rest of the Big 5. They also directly compete with pro teams in every major sport. The college football team in Philadelphia that draws the most interest is Penn State.

Temple is "Group A" according to ESPN, along with UConn, Cincy & Houston - the most valuable TV properties in the league for which termination of the AAC TV deal is required if 2 schools leave including at least 1 Group A school.

(07-18-2013 09:51 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 06:55 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 06:27 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(07-17-2013 06:23 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Temple can dream.

It's a lot more likely than NIU, I'll tell you that much.

What does Northern Illinois have to do with anything?

LOL i assume he looked at your "I root for" and saw NAU and read it wrong. Anyway, NIU to the ACC! Book it!

NIU has a solid program and has the ability to beat BCS teams. Also love their ability to schedule good OOC schools, btwn 2013-2018 NIU plays Iowa, Arkansas, Iowa State, Nebraska, Ohio State. I'm sure some of those home tilts against B1G Ten opponents will be played at Soldier Filed (like the Iowa game last season).

Keep it up Huskies, most years you're the best team in Illinois!

If the ACC expands, West Virginia, Connecticut, or Temple will be considered. Temple offers a sweet market.

(07-18-2013 09:35 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:23 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:04 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 12:59 AM)psualltheway5 Wrote:  If they're going for the Philadelphia market, Villanova would be the better choice. Villanova has a better basketball program in the past decade and their football would have potential moving up to D1. Not to mention Villanova is a great academic school in a great area.

What are you smoking?

What did I say that was so wrong? Villanova has been better than Temple in basketball. They have a great FCS program. They are in a great area and are a great academic school.

Villanova has a great basketball program but there is little potential for football. Temple had to get political pressure from the city to get into the Linc. They won't lose it. So Villanova would have to play in a soccer stadium in Chester. You think Mainline fans are gonna trek down there to watch Nova lose? They don't have the money to be competitive at both sports. Almost no private schools do.

How many are almost "no private schools"? Just curious.

The following private schools are competing at the P5 level:

Notre Dame
Miami
Syracuse
Boston College
Wake Forest
Duke
Vanderbilt
Northwestern
TCU
Baylor
USC
Stanford
BYU (Not P5, but might as well be.)

(07-18-2013 10:04 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(07-18-2013 09:58 AM)Blackhawk-eye Wrote:  I can see Temple getting real consideration, especially but only if the ACC loses another school or two.

Fixed it.

It was already noted counselor in the very next sentence. Thanks.

(07-18-2013 10:14 AM)chess Wrote:  If the ACC expands, West Virginia, Connecticut, or Temple will be considered. Temple offers a sweet market.

CORRECT. Add Cincinnati and Navy to that list as well.

(07-18-2013 10:13 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Temple is "Group A" according to ESPN, along with UConn, Cincy & Houston - the most valuable TV properties in the league for which termination of the AAC TV deal is required if 2 schools leave including at least 1 Group A school.

Is it required? If so, yikes.

(07-18-2013 10:13 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  Temple is "Group A" according to ESPN, along with UConn, Cincy & Houston - the most valuable TV properties in the league for which termination of the AAC TV deal is required if 2 schools leave including at least 1 Group A school.

Termination isn't required, but it is allowed. ESPN would have the choice to do so, not any mandate to do so.

(07-18-2013 09:28 AM)pzz189 Wrote:  This thread is funny. Is the ACC mad at lowly Temple for embarrassing them? Upseting #3 Duke at the Wells Fargo Center, upsetting top 10 Cuse at MSG last season, ruining a favored NC State's dreams in the tournament. Oh yeah, then there's Maryland basketball who fell to Temple twice straight the last few years. And don't bring up Maryland football getting destroyed at the Byrd. To lowly Temple! Who has what, 1/20 the athletic revenue that ACC members get? Yeah, the ACC shouldn't want Temple because if they had the same revenue and conference to recruit in, they might do more of this week in, week out before the second biggest city on the Atlantic coast. You're better off taking UConn, a school with no market who's lost three times straight now to Temple in football. Or Cincy, a smaller market in the Midwest with a stadium half the size and worse academics.

Hey now, you leave UC out of this. I want no part of this trainwreck of a thread.

The odds of a big established powerhouse school moving have gone down dramatically since the ACC GOR. So that leaves leagues looking to possibly expand (like B12 and ACC) with two choices. Schools on the bubble like UC and UConn or schools that have really not been considered (like Temple) who have really good markets and the possibility of growth.

I am sure the ACC would love to bring in some big time football schools but since none are available maybe there is a way to grow one? So while I don't think Temple is a great idea it is certainly not the nuttiest thing I have ever heard. They would certainly be a better invite than Navy.