(04-01-2013 07:00 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  La Tech fans want anyone other than Louisiana. The reduction in supposed payout would not be noticed due to the reduction in travel cost.

You are partly correct. We want anyone other than UL-LAF.

(04-01-2013 05:00 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 07:00 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  La Tech fans want anyone other than Louisiana. The reduction in supposed payout would not be noticed due to the reduction in travel cost.

You are partly correct. We want anyone other than UL-LAF.

Your not the only ones that feel that way. I like the wku add, upcoming fb program, good basketball history. Now shut the door, no one else in.

No reason to go to 16. That would be less money for everyone.

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(04-01-2013 07:00 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  La Tech fans want anyone other than Louisiana. The reduction in supposed payout would not be noticed due to the reduction in travel cost.

Which Louisiana are you talking about? Louisiana State, Louisiana College, Louisiana-Laughayette, Louisiana-Monroe, or Southeastern Louisiana?

There is only one Louisiana on that list worth adding to CUSA, and it is highly unlikely it will be leaving the SEC in the next century or two.

CUSA, just say no to ULL and ASU-Jonesboro. If there is a need to add two more football schools, I suggest Texas State-San Marcos and Georgia State.

(04-01-2013 02:58 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 02:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 08:10 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  adding ULL and stAte would move UAB east and give USM ULL and La Tech as close schools with good traveling fan bases. by moving to two 8 team divisions it would cut travel costs. it also puts uab back with traditional rivals UNCC, WKU, and ODU.

Sorry if this has been said already but isn't this conference already set up pretty darn good (geographically speaking) for UAB and USM? Those two schools are at the center of the entire league.

We're getting sent to the West, though, and we're really pretty far East for that group.

There's almost nothing I like about this conference. I will never understand Tech's presence. I do not see how the media and bowl arrangements we will get will ever justify the costs of travel, and the damage to the USM brand. How we went from being lusted after by the MWC to where we are now is a question to which any reasonable fanbase would demand answers. Unfortunately, I think USM fans are too non-confrontational to make this an issue. There are plenty of other teams to switch to around here (Saints, LSU, Florida Weekly University...)

Issue??? Issue???...and do what, picket????...and picket for what???

There are as many Bama, UM, LSU, MSU fans in HBG as there are USM fans. Switch??...hell, half the local "fans" already have another in reserve...

Just curious.....what is our "brand"? We are not freaking ND. Hell, we can't even get the freakin' logo right without being sued. Hell, the gawdamn announcers even call us all kinds of shite like SMU or MSU...our brand is the generic brand at Dollar General when it comes to the eyes of John Q Public.

Man, I am proud of what we have accomplished over time. I am also hopeful that we continue to build upon that history.

But, I am sick of the negative shite. It serves no purpose. That woe is us bs is what squashes growth and contributes to the perception that restricts our potential from moving forward. We broke, we suck. we have shitey AD....blah blah blah blah blahbityblah...is like listening to my ex-wife.

If we are broke, figure out how to make more money.

If we suck, fire the coach and do our best to find a better one.

If our AD doesn't work out, hire another.

But y'all keep on with that TTT bs....b/c it helps so much.

You don't understand the Tech add? I don't understand your thinking.

As you opine, I rebut.

Is that confrontational enough for you?

Stinkfist, confrontation with me personally isn't what I had in mind.

Our brand WAS top mid-major in football. That was true from about 1996 until mid-2000, maybe a bit later.

I think we need to have higher expectations from our President and AD. The treatment that Bower, Fleming, and Gianninni got needs to be an ever-present threat for our current President and AD, and for their successors. And these people need to be evaluated first and foremost based on you-know-what... no excuses.

EDIT: And yeah, I don't understand the Tech addition, unless they're just a warm body designed to make scheduling easy (which seems amazingly lazy to me).

Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette should be added. Not to be offensive to any new members, but CUSA gambled a bit with the additions of ODU, UNC-Charlotte and UTSA. Those were great adds, as far as markets are concerned. The conference now needs to go after programs with established FBS success and who can balance the geography of each division. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette do both. Not to mention, ASU has solid support throughout Little Rock and ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge. It's obvious, to me, that both schools should be added.

ULL is 3:15 from Houston 3:30 from Hattiesburg and 3:00 from Ruston 5:30 from Dallas 6:00 from San Antonio. That's a huge savings in travel expenses for the west

(04-02-2013 04:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette should be added. Not to be offensive to any new members, but CUSA gambled a bit with the additions of ODU, UNC-Charlotte and UTSA. Those were great adds, as far as markets are concerned. The conference now needs to go after programs with established FBS success and who can balance the geography of each division. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette do both. Not to mention, ASU has solid support throughout Little Rock and ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge. It's obvious, to me, that both schools should be added.

I live in Little Rock, and ASU is not much of a factor. Outside of a few bulletin boards and the occasional car tag, it's all Razorbacks. The only truly ASU heavy market is Jonesboro itself.

(04-02-2013 04:51 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 04:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette should be added. Not to be offensive to any new members, but CUSA gambled a bit with the additions of ODU, UNC-Charlotte and UTSA. Those were great adds, as far as markets are concerned. The conference now needs to go after programs with established FBS success and who can balance the geography of each division. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette do both. Not to mention, ASU has solid support throughout Little Rock and ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge. It's obvious, to me, that both schools should be added.

I live in Little Rock, and ASU is not much of a factor. Outside of a few bulletin boards and the occasional car tag, it's all Razorbacks. The only truly ASU heavy market is Jonesboro itself.

And I see at least as much USM stuff in New Orleans as I do ULL stuff... probably more, if you count the suburbs. I'd be really hesitant to say any SBC team has "solid" support anywhere outside its own town... if there.

(04-02-2013 04:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

ULL support pretty much ends at the Atchafalaya Basin. They are no more of a factor in Baton Rouge and New Orleans than SLU. Plus, picking up ULL into CUSA really would put a damper on our hopes that they will drop back down to the Southland. Remember, the goal here is to just have four FBS schools in Louisiana.

(04-02-2013 05:17 PM)RougeDawg Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 04:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge.

ULL support pretty much ends at the Atchafalaya Basin. They are no more of a factor in Baton Rouge and New Orleans than SLU. Plus, picking up ULL into CUSA really would put a damper on our hopes that they will drop back down to the Southland. Remember, the goal here is to just have four FBS schools in Louisiana.

Right, that is gonna happen as soon as LSU an La Tech trade conferences. Especially given the fact that we will surpass the $20 million dollar budget before La Tech. Break ground on our Master Plan Phase I before La Tech breaks ground on Q4E Field House.

The delusion among many of the La Tech posters is 2nd to only Georgia Southern fans and their triple option.

(04-02-2013 04:51 PM)LR Eagle Wrote:  

(04-02-2013 04:19 PM)Afflicted Wrote:  Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette should be added. Not to be offensive to any new members, but CUSA gambled a bit with the additions of ODU, UNC-Charlotte and UTSA. Those were great adds, as far as markets are concerned. The conference now needs to go after programs with established FBS success and who can balance the geography of each division. Arkansas State and Louisiana-Lafayette do both. Not to mention, ASU has solid support throughout Little Rock and ULL has solid support throughout New Orleans and Baton Rouge. It's obvious, to me, that both schools should be added.

I live in Little Rock, and ASU is not much of a factor. Outside of a few bulletin boards and the occasional car tag, it's all Razorbacks. The only truly ASU heavy market is Jonesboro itself.

We have a good alumni presence in LR and always have a large contingent at the stAte/UALR game.

Coverage on LR stations varies depending on their relationship with the Hogs. Fox16 has covered us very well and KTHV covers us pretty well.

We had deals for broadcast of UCA/stAte and Troy/stAte games here.

The LR newspaper does everything possible to forget we exist. So it is true that we get zero love from print media.

There are 5-6 active stAte fans/alum on my floor at work out of maybe 100. I'm not sure if that is a normal ratio or not.

Arkansas Sports 360 indicated their web hits were 80% Hogs articles and 20% Red Wolves.

I get Red Wolf gear at Park Plaza and McCain malls and McCain had a solo display in the front glass when I was there in January.

You can get an idea of relative coverage at http://www.sportinglifearkansas.com

(03-31-2013 08:37 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  East:

Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
ODU
Charlotte
Delaware
FIU


West:

Southern Miss
La Tech
Arkansas State
UTSA
North Texas
FAU
Rice
UTEP

I like where you are going with this idea except you do not have to expand for it. Why not just send FAU to the West division anyway?

CUSA East: WKU, MTSU, UAB, Charlotte, Marshall, ODU, FIU
CUSA West: FAU, USM, La Tech, Rice, UNT, UTSA, UTEP

That would put a CUSA 1.0 member (UAB, USM) in each of the divisions to make it feel more like CUSA. The other 3 CUSA 2.0 members (Rice, UTEP and Marshall) are then spread around between the divisions. This would help the new CUSA feel more like CUSA 2.0 than the SBC.

(04-02-2013 11:35 AM)AndreWhere Wrote:  Our brand WAS top mid-major in football. That was true from about 1996 until mid-2000, maybe a bit later.

Well, you could go back to winning two College Division National Championships in 1958 & 1962. But in the modern era, I'd say it started in 1978 with Bobby Collins & Reggie Collier. Typically, if you didn't go SEC, you went with USM.
ECU also had some pretty good teams & rivaled USM in the best of the smaller programs.

(04-01-2013 07:36 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 05:00 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-01-2013 07:00 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  La Tech fans want anyone other than Louisiana. The reduction in supposed payout would not be noticed due to the reduction in travel cost.

You are partly correct. We want anyone other than UL-LAF.

Your not the only ones that feel that way. I like the wku add, upcoming fb program, good basketball history. Now shut the door, no one else in.

Agree, please leave ULL out of this conference!

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(04-03-2013 07:00 AM)panama Wrote:  Georgia State University
Department of Athletics
125 Decatur St. SE, Atlanta, GA, 30303
(404) 413-4021

(04-03-2013 07:00 AM)panama Wrote:  Georgia State University
Department of Athletics
125 Decatur St. SE, Atlanta, GA, 30303
(404) 413-4021

You guys aren't even playing FBS football yet.. come on! Plus you JUST got accepted to the SBC - play there for a bit before you go jumping out.

(04-02-2013 07:02 PM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(03-31-2013 08:37 AM)MUHERD76 Wrote:  East:

Marshall
WKU
MTSU
UAB
ODU
Charlotte
Delaware
FIU


West:

Southern Miss
La Tech
Arkansas State
UTSA
North Texas
FAU
Rice
UTEP

I like where you are going with this idea except you do not have to expand for it. Why not just send FAU to the West division anyway?

CUSA East: WKU, MTSU, UAB, Charlotte, Marshall, ODU, FIU
CUSA West: FAU, USM, La Tech, Rice, UNT, UTSA, UTEP

That would put a CUSA 1.0 member (UAB, USM) in each of the divisions to make it feel more like CUSA. The other 3 CUSA 2.0 members (Rice, UTEP and Marshall) are then spread around between the divisions. This would help the new CUSA feel more like CUSA 2.0 than the SBC.

Forget adding another 1AA school in Delaware and keep FAU in the East with its travel partner FIU. Add the Louisiana Ragin Cajuns and Arkansas State in the West and have a balanced 16 team conference. Makes the most sense and eases travel burdens in each division for olympic sports. Moving any of the Eastern schools out west makes no sense, especially for FAU in south Florida.