RE: [split] The Greatness of Wichita State
How about we compare numbers for SLU, Dayton, and Wichita State. I know that we will NEVER have the priviledge to play with schools such as DePaul (75-62 win on neutral court this year), but lets use your year, 1981, as the starting point of recent history.
St. Louis -- 5 appearances, 3 wins
Dayton -- 7 appearances, 4 wins
Wichita State -- 6 appearances, 5 wins
VCU -- 10 appearances, 10 wins (6 in last 2 years)
Butler -- 10 appearances, 16 wins (10 over last 3 years)
Creighton -- 11 appearances, 4 wins
Xavier -- 22 appearances (23 overall), 21 wins
We haven't had players like David West, James Posey, Torraye Braggs, and Brian Grant. We have had players like Cleo Littleton, Warren (Armstrong) Jabali, Dave Stallworth, Bob Wilson, Nate Bowman, Greg Dreiling, Antione Carr, Cliff Levingston, Xavier McDaniel, and Maurice Evans.
We have been to the Final Four, as has Dayton, Butler, and VCU. SLU has not. Oh, BTW, neither has Xavier.
You can rag on Wichita State all you want based on personal feelings, but if you re-read the threads where Wichita State has been discussed, we stack up well against the other schools being talked about in many areas. We are not Xavier. We are not Georgetown. But fact of the matter is two of the schools that get in if you go to 12 are going to be very comparable to Wichita State in facilities, budget, support, attendance, history (recent and not so recent), coaching salary, etc.
That is not my opinion, that is a fact.
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