(03-30-2012 10:45 PM)CollegeCard Wrote:  I think Pitino's in before Lewis and Rick missed the cut this year in his first year eligible.

I have no problem with Pitino getting in the Hall. How many of his former players are already in the Naismith, BTW? I'm trying to gauge his footprint on the game...

(03-30-2012 10:24 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 10:10 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 08:42 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  [size=large]Read the whole story here. It's worth the read:

So his players think he deserves the Hall ...

Those are Naismith members themselves, I might add.

Wouldn't it occur to you that they'd know what his influence meant to their development as basketball greats?

That kinda blows holes in your "roll the ball out" BS if you think about it.

For that article to be in the public sphere right now, it sounds like a lot of people have issue with it. Otherwise, it would have never garnered the attention.

Are you sick? I never said I thought Lewis just rolled the ball out there. I said that was a common criticism of his coaching 30 years ago, and like it or not, it was.

As for the article "being in the public sphere", well, it's one article written by one AP writer. Apparently, other Naismith members, who don't have fond memories of Lewis as their coach, don't share their opinion.

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Are you sick? I never said I thought Lewis just rolled the ball out there. I said that was a common criticism of his coaching 30 years ago, and like it or not, it was.

You kept harping on it.
I thought you were trying to make a point in there somewhere, quo. You have a very high redundancy rate in your postings... I can only read the same post 400 times before they start reading like Charlie Brown's school teacher. Uber douche

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  As for the article "being in the public sphere", well, it's one article written by one AP writer. Apparently, other Naismith members, who don't have fond memories of Lewis as their coach, don't share their opinion.

Did you read the article? lol
Quo.. quo.. quo.. I suppose not. Guy V's candidacy has been put on hold 5 years.
This just shows what a blowhard you are. You comment before even doing your research. smh Although, you never offer up anything but rhetoric. It doesn't surprise me you'd comment on an article you didn't read.

Quote:If a candidate goes three straight years without passing through one of the initial screening committees, the candidate becomes ineligible for induction for the next five years. The hall says Lewis did not receive enough voter support between 2005-07 and was subsequently dropped from future ballots.

Lewis’ five years are up, and he’ll be eligible for induction into the class of 2013.

Read the whole story here. It's worth the read.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

(03-30-2012 11:05 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Are you sick? I never said I thought Lewis just rolled the ball out there. I said that was a common criticism of his coaching 30 years ago, and like it or not, it was.

You kept harping on it.
I thought you were trying to make a point in there somewhere, quo. You have a very high redundancy rate in your postings... I can only read the same post 400 times before they start reading like Charlie Brown's school teacher. Uber ******

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  As for the article "being in the public sphere", well, it's one article written by one AP writer. Apparently, other Naismith members, who don't have fond memories of Lewis as their coach, don't share their opinion.

Did you read the article? lol
Quo.. quo.. quo.. I suppose not. Guy V's candidacy has been put on hold 5 years.
This just shows what a blowhard you are. You comment before even doing your research. smh Although, you never offer up anything but rhetoric. It doesn't surprise me you'd comment on an article you didn't read.

Quote:If a candidate goes three straight years without passing through one of the initial screening committees, the candidate becomes ineligible for induction for the next five years. The hall says Lewis did not receive enough voter support between 2005-07 and was subsequently dropped from future ballots.

Lewis’ five years are up, and he’ll be eligible for induction into the class of 2013.

Read the whole story here. It's worth the read.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

What a fool this "Homer" clown is. He falsely claims i said Lewis rolled out the ball and when he's called on it, he lacks the guts to admit he screwed up.

Then, he stupidly notes that Lewis's candidacy has been put on hold for 5 years, as if this somehow supports his stupid contention that Hall voters want him in, when all it really means is he lost out on the votes so many times that he reached the point where his candidacy was put on hold for 5 freaking years! The fact is that every time Hall voters have had a chance to vote on Lewis, they have said NO. Good Lord ...

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is. He falsely claims i said Lewis rolled out the ball and when he's called on it, he lacks the guts to admit he screwed up.

Then, he stupidly notes that Lewis's candidacy has been put on hold for 5 years, as if this somehow supports his stupid contention that Hall voters want him in, when all it really means is he lost out on the votes so many times that he reached the point where his candidacy was put on hold for 5 freaking years! The fact is that every time Hall voters have had a chance to vote on Lewis, they have said NO. Good Lord ...

"To be insulted by you is to be garlanded with lilies." - Aristophanes

(03-31-2012 12:51 AM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is. He falsely claims i said Lewis rolled out the ball and when he's called on it, he lacks the guts to admit he screwed up.

Then, he stupidly notes that Lewis's candidacy has been put on hold for 5 years, as if this somehow supports his stupid contention that Hall voters want him in, when all it really means is he lost out on the votes so many times that he reached the point where his candidacy was put on hold for 5 freaking years! The fact is that every time Hall voters have had a chance to vote on Lewis, they have said NO. Good Lord ...

"To be insulted by you is to be garlanded with lilies." - Aristophanes

... yet another gutless way of admitting you've been whipped.

There is no doubt at all that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, none whatsoever.

What is the problem with the voters, I wonder?

(03-29-2012 09:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 07:51 AM)CougarRed Wrote:  

(03-29-2012 06:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I suspect you weren't alive in 1983 ...

My last 3 years of High School were spent 3 rows behind the Cougar bench at Hofheinz for what is now known as Phi Slama Jama.

You should thank the Lord above that: 1) the refs called 3 ticky tack first half fouls on Olajuwon in the finals, and 2) Drexler went pro a year early. Georgetown won its first title directly as a result of 1 and 2 above.

WTF? If Houston couldn't beat NC State with Drexler, how on earth could they beat the mighty 1984 Georgetown Hoyas, the best team the Big East has ever produced?

I don't think the 84 Georgetown team would have beat the 83 Cougars (or the 83 Louisville squad). That said, Ewing was better than Olajuwon until about 1986 or 1987, and the team with the best player, especially if it's a center, always has a good chance.

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is.

Another AUP violation. Two ad hominem attacks in one sentence. Nicely played.

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 11:05 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Are you sick? I never said I thought Lewis just rolled the ball out there. I said that was a common criticism of his coaching 30 years ago, and like it or not, it was.

You kept harping on it.
I thought you were trying to make a point in there somewhere, quo. You have a very high redundancy rate in your postings... I can only read the same post 400 times before they start reading like Charlie Brown's school teacher. Uber ******

(03-30-2012 10:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  As for the article "being in the public sphere", well, it's one article written by one AP writer. Apparently, other Naismith members, who don't have fond memories of Lewis as their coach, don't share their opinion.

Did you read the article? lol
Quo.. quo.. quo.. I suppose not. Guy V's candidacy has been put on hold 5 years.
This just shows what a blowhard you are. You comment before even doing your research. smh Although, you never offer up anything but rhetoric. It doesn't surprise me you'd comment on an article you didn't read.

Quote:If a candidate goes three straight years without passing through one of the initial screening committees, the candidate becomes ineligible for induction for the next five years. The hall says Lewis did not receive enough voter support between 2005-07 and was subsequently dropped from future ballots.

Lewis’ five years are up, and he’ll be eligible for induction into the class of 2013.

Read the whole story here. It's worth the read.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/col...ory_1.html

What a fool this "Homer" clown is. He falsely claims i said Lewis rolled out the ball and when he's called on it, he lacks the guts to admit he screwed up.

Then, he stupidly notes that Lewis's candidacy has been put on hold for 5 years, as if this somehow supports his stupid contention that Hall voters want him in, when all it really means is he lost out on the votes so many times that he reached the point where his candidacy was put on hold for 5 freaking years! The fact is that every time Hall voters have had a chance to vote on Lewis, they have said NO. Good Lord ...

Why the frivolous behavier quo??? Take a chill pill before you give yourself a heart attack.

(03-31-2012 10:23 AM)TerryD Wrote:  There is no doubt at all that he belongs in the Hall of Fame, none whatsoever.

What is the problem with the voters, I wonder?

Terry, i suspect it is because contemporary observers believed he was a great talent scout but weak game coach.

Poll 100 basketball writers about why Phi Slama never won a national title, and i bet 90% say "guy lewis's coaching".

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is.

Steve, there's enough animosity around here, without you starting your comments with insults. Keep it civil...

(03-31-2012 07:51 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is.

Steve, there's enough animosity around here, without you starting your comments with insults. Keep it civil...

(03-31-2012 07:51 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(03-31-2012 12:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What a fool this "Homer" clown is.

Steve, there's enough animosity around here, without you starting your comments with insults. Keep it civil...

Sorry.

(04-01-2012 01:25 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Sorry.

8 pages of this tells me Coach Guy V. Lewis definitly belongs in the Naismith "Hall of Fame" and any other tribute that can be devised.

5 Final Fours
Game of the Century
Phi Slama Jama
and most of all a class act and visionary who was the first to see potential beyond skin color to intregrate college basketball.

Gang,

Lou Carnesseca is in the HOF with only ONE Final Four, and John Chaney is in the HOF with ZERO.

By contrast, Guy V. Lewis made FIVE Final Fours and two championship appearances.

Obviously, Guy Lewis was a good enough of a "game day" coach to win the Elite Eight games necessary to make more Final Fours than those HOFers, and as such, is every bit as good of a "game day" coach (and arguably a BETTER one) than they are.

So much for Quo Vadis' theory that he wasn't a good "game day" coach. If he wasn't, then why did he win more Elite Eight game days than those HOFers?

With that in mind, if those two are in the HOF, then Guy V. DEFINITELY belongs there as well.

For Lewis NOT to be there, in light of those facts, is both a disgrace, and evidence of East Coast media bias.

(04-04-2012 04:31 AM)UH Law 97 Wrote:  So much for Quo Vadis' theory that he wasn't a good "game day" coach. If he wasn't, then why did he win more Elite Eight game days than those HOFers?

With that in mind, if those two are in the HOF, then Guy V. DEFINITELY belongs there as well.

I never put for the theory that Guy wasn't a good game-day coach. What i did was explain, for the benefit of those who weren't around 30 years ago, that during the Phi Slamma era Lewis was regarded by many in the basketball and media community as being a guy who just rolled the ball out there and didn't do much coaching.

Like it or not, at the time Phi Slamma was in its heyday, lots and lots of people in basketball said it was Lewis's coaching that prevented that team from ever winning a national title. And that's probably why he isn't in the Hall.

As for other coaches with fewer accomplishments being in, no doubt that is true. But just because the Hall made a mistake by putting John Chaney and Lou Carneseca in, doesn't mean they should compound the mistake ...

(04-04-2012 06:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  I never put for the theory that Guy wasn't a good game-day coach.

You introduced this theory into this thread. You keep repeating this theory.

(04-04-2012 06:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  What i did was explain, for the benefit of those who weren't around 30 years ago, that during the Phi Slamma era Lewis was regarded by many in the basketball and media community as being a guy who just rolled the ball out there and didn't do much coaching.

For the benefit of those who weren't around 30 years ago, I don't remember this. If true, then whoever said this was a moron. Some people also said that Ted Williams sucked because he only hit .200 in his only World Series, but they're considered morons.

(04-04-2012 06:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Like it or not, at the time Phi Slamma was in its heyday, lots and lots of people in basketball said it was Lewis's coaching that prevented that team from ever winning a national title. And that's probably why he isn't in the Hall.

I don't remember this.

(04-04-2012 06:52 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  As for other coaches with fewer accomplishments being in, no doubt that is true. But just because the Hall made a mistake by putting John Chaney and Lou Carneseca in, doesn't mean they should compound the mistake ...

Chaney and Louie belong in the Hall.

We should close this thread.

I'd love to hear the logic behind Chaney and Carneseca not being deserving getting into the HOF.