I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

No, I would be concerned that they would immediately try to convince Temple, UMASS, Ohio, Miami & Buffalo (along with Western KY) to split with them to form a new conference.

(02-07-2012 03:18 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

No, I would be concerned that they would immediately try to convince Temple, UMASS, Ohio, Miami & Buffalo (along with Western KY) to split with them to form a new conference.

I don't think there is an mechanism for a new FBS conference is there?

But if thats what they really wanted (and if it were possible for a new conference) They, along with SM could court them as it stands now.

(02-07-2012 03:22 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:18 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

No, I would be concerned that they would immediately try to convince Temple, UMASS, Ohio, Miami & Buffalo (along with Western KY) to split with them to form a new conference.

I don't think there is an mechanism for a new FBS conference is there?

But if thats what they really wanted (and if it were possible for a new conference) They, along with SM could court them as it stands now.

OK you twisted my arm.

-yes Though I think the Marshall and ECU fans are going to think they are better than even Temple...

ECU: YES!

Marshall: Go F@^k yourself!

(02-07-2012 03:30 PM)Howl-n-Prowl Wrote:  ECU: YES!

Marshall: Go F@^k yourself!

BINGO

I've been advocating inviting Memphis and ECU for a while now. Since Memphis is off the board, I'd still like to nab ECU and maybe entice Southern Miss now that they lost one of their dancing partners.

But, again, "F" Marshall.

(02-07-2012 03:18 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

No, I would be concerned that they would immediately try to convince Temple, UMASS, Ohio, Miami & Buffalo (along with Western KY) to split with them to form a new conference.

Oh man, can that happen? I would love for that to happen.

(02-07-2012 03:47 PM)OZoner Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:18 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

No, I would be concerned that they would immediately try to convince Temple, UMASS, Ohio, Miami & Buffalo (along with Western KY) to split with them to form a new conference.

Oh man, can that happen? I would love for that to happen.

Temple will never give up A-10 hoops for anything less than the Big East.

No. Hell no.

East Carolina would choose to go back to football independence over the MAC.

And I wouldn't piss on Marshall if they were on fire.

Neither of these schools would have any interest in joining the MAC, even with the latest setback in C-USA fortunes. If C-USA disbands (not likely IMHO), then yes, there'd be a fit as Marshall and ECU would be in a real tough spot then.

(02-07-2012 06:27 PM)bronconick Wrote:  No. Hell no.

East Carolina would choose to go back to football independence over the MAC.

And I wouldn't piss on Marshall if they were on fire.

And I would pay to see that.

ECU is worth it. Marshall heck no. Except for a few posters Marshal fans are no fun to be around and I don't feel the schol offers much except for more regional foes.

ECU would likely try to be independent and see if it can still work for them before trying to go to the MAC (or at least that is what the fans will say).

There are other teams that are worth it from CUSA but we will have to wait to see what the MWC does now. If there was a conference that would steal food from a starving man (green archer needs food now!) it would be the MWC.

(02-07-2012 11:56 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  ECU is worth it. Marshall heck no. Except for a few posters Marshal fans are no fun to be around and I don't feel the schol offers much except for more regional foes.

ECU would likely try to be independent and see if it can still work for them before trying to go to the MAC (or at least that is what the fans will say).

There are other teams that are worth it from CUSA but we will have to wait to see what the MWC does now. If there was a conference that would steal food from a starving man (green archer needs food now!) it would be the MWC.

LOL at indy teams... The age of the football independent is gone. Unless you have a true national audience like ND, the service academies and *maybe* BYU can pull it off but the money for an indy will be far worse than any conference.

(02-08-2012 12:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 11:56 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  ECU is worth it. Marshall heck no. Except for a few posters Marshal fans are no fun to be around and I don't feel the schol offers much except for more regional foes.

ECU would likely try to be independent and see if it can still work for them before trying to go to the MAC (or at least that is what the fans will say).

There are other teams that are worth it from CUSA but we will have to wait to see what the MWC does now. If there was a conference that would steal food from a starving man (green archer needs food now!) it would be the MWC.

LOL at indy teams... The age of the football independent is gone. Unless you have a true national audience like ND, the service academies and *maybe* BYU can pull it off but the money for an indy will be far worse than any conference.

I think you are correct but I am mostly saying from a fan perspective that many would prefer to go independent (and die) than join the MAC. Now as an institution I don't know what they will do since old alumni can have a lot of sway in a place like that. Personally I like the idea of joining conferences and not being independent. We shall see what happens with the MWC. It really hinges on what they try to pull.

(02-07-2012 06:33 PM)exCincy Kid Wrote:  Neither of these schools would have any interest in joining the MAC, even with the latest setback in C-USA fortunes. If C-USA disbands (not likely IMHO), then yes, there'd be a fit as Marshall and ECU would be in a real tough spot then.

I agree with you on this one.

ECU and Marshall would make nice fits in the Sun Belt.

(02-08-2012 12:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  LOL at indy teams... The age of the football independent is gone. Unless you have a true national audience like ND, the service academies and *maybe* BYU can pull it off but the money for an indy will be far worse than any conference.

Things are cyclical. The fact that there are more independent programs now than just a few years ago makes me wonder if it's truly a problem. Especially w/ 12 game schedules. Plus, the more that go independent, the more workable it becomes.

(02-08-2012 02:04 AM)Louis Kitton Wrote:  

(02-07-2012 06:33 PM)exCincy Kid Wrote:  Neither of these schools would have any interest in joining the MAC, even with the latest setback in C-USA fortunes. If C-USA disbands (not likely IMHO), then yes, there'd be a fit as Marshall and ECU would be in a real tough spot then.

I agree with you on this one.

ECU and Marshall would make nice fits in the Sun Belt.

No you did'n!

(02-08-2012 08:42 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(02-08-2012 12:26 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  LOL at indy teams... The age of the football independent is gone. Unless you have a true national audience like ND, the service academies and *maybe* BYU can pull it off but the money for an indy will be far worse than any conference.

Things are cyclical. The fact that there are more independent programs now than just a few years ago makes me wonder if it's truly a problem. Especially w/ 12 game schedules. Plus, the more that go independent, the more workable it becomes.

TV contracts, bowl (BCS) revenue, .... There are more independents today?

You have Army, Navy, ND, and BYU. Like I said a service academy or an institution thats a religious icon. How many people, outside of their market, are going to sit down and watch an ECU game?

Then why would anyone give them real money for the tv rights. Today's tv contracts are a case when the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

(02-07-2012 03:05 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  I was not following college sports when Marshall and the MAC developed bad blood so I put it to the codgers on the board..

Should the MAC offer Marshall and ECU, the two most geographically isolated teams in whats left of CUSA?

As an AAU member, UB should be disgusted with the idea of inviting marshall "university" to the MAC.