rocketfootball Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:

Quote:As for the East Carolina comment, they did play and beat Toledo this past year. However, ECU won by 2 lousy points at home against a school that was 8th in the MAC in wins with a 16-13 record.

that's pretty sad, ECU didn't even make the conference tourney. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Neither did Toledo. What's your point? You said that ECU could beat the better MAC teams. The better MAC teams were much better than Toledo this year, I don't deny that. :stupid:

I was the one that said ECU would give the top MAC teams a run for their money. Did not say they would beat them, but its possible.
If Vermont could beat Cuse, then of course ECU could beat the top MAC teams.
BTW, I am still mad about that Vermont thing. :)

cuseroc Wrote:

rocketfootball Wrote:

fsquid Wrote:

Quote:As for the East Carolina comment, they did play and beat Toledo this past year. However, ECU won by 2 lousy points at home against a school that was 8th in the MAC in wins with a 16-13 record.

that's pretty sad, ECU didn't even make the conference tourney. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Neither did Toledo. What's your point? You said that ECU could beat the better MAC teams. The better MAC teams were much better than Toledo this year, I don't deny that. :stupid:

I was the one that said ECU would give the top MAC teams a run for their money. Did not say they would beat them, but its possible.
If Vermont could beat Cuse, then of course ECU could beat the top MAC teams.
BTW, I am still mad about that Vermont thing. :)

Understand your point and I agree that they could give them a run for their money. Just like Marshall beat West Virginia. No way that Marshall was near the level of WVU, but Marshall still beat them and like 4 other teams all year! Anything can happen. That doesn't mean that ECU is better than the top 7 or 8 schools in the MAC.

rocketfootball Wrote:

brista21 Wrote:

rocketfootball Wrote:The MAC is probably the most underrated basketball conference in Division I.  They get no respect, but can play pretty decent basketball.  No, they are no ACC, Big East, or SEC......and they haven't been near as good as C-USA with Memphis, Louisville, Cincy, Charlotte, etc...........but they are still a decent basketball league that is underrated.  Not garbage.

Agree that the MAC is underrated in general. However don't compare yourself to SEC basketball because they're not that good. I'd use the Big Ten and the old CUSA in place of the SEC.

I was thinking along the lines of Kentucky and Florida mostly. Of course there were 7 SEC schools with 20 or more wins this past year and another with 18 wins.

Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

CardsRChamps Wrote:

rocketfootball Wrote:

brista21 Wrote:

rocketfootball Wrote:The MAC is probably the most underrated basketball conference in Division I.  They get no respect, but can play pretty decent basketball.  No, they are no ACC, Big East, or SEC......and they haven't been near as good as C-USA with Memphis, Louisville, Cincy, Charlotte, etc...........but they are still a decent basketball league that is underrated.  Not garbage.

Agree that the MAC is underrated in general. However don't compare yourself to SEC basketball because they're not that good. I'd use the Big Ten and the old CUSA in place of the SEC.

I was thinking along the lines of Kentucky and Florida mostly. Of course there were 7 SEC schools with 20 or more wins this past year and another with 18 wins.

Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

When you have schools as good as Kentucky and Florida though, they are better than the MAC. That is what my statement originally said. Sure in any given game a MAC school could beat them, but the Kentucky's and Florida's of the world will beat the MAC teams more times than not.

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CardsRChamps Wrote:Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy? :laugh:

Bambu Wrote:

CardsRChamps Wrote:Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy? :laugh:

No because we actually play several top teams every year. Unlike some SEC schools who literally go 12-0 solely against the SWAC.

And you criticize me for being on the CUSA board. Ha Ha.

CollegeCard Wrote:

Bambu Wrote:

CardsRChamps Wrote:Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy? :laugh:

No because we actually play several top teams every year. Unlike some SEC schools who literally go 12-0 solely against the SWAC.

And you criticize me for being on the CUSA board. Ha Ha.

I don't think I've ever criticized you for posting on a CUSA
board. Though I have defended my team against some of
your weak smack.

And Kentucky once a year ain't "several top ten teams". :laugh:

Your past schedules are out there for anyone that cares. No one
thinks you have a tough OOC, ever , except Card fans. :angel:

brista21 Wrote:I agree the that the NC system is good but only two campuses are Tier 1, NC State - Raleigh and UNC - Chapel Hill. If I had to be living in the South this is one of the few states I could survive in (you can take the boy out of the Northeast but you can't take the Northeast out of the boy) there are plenty of Northerners these days plus the education system in the state of North Carolina is pretty good so when I have kids down the road they're going to get a good education and have the option of attending some fine schools. Although I'd encourage them to check out Rutgers because of the education and memories that I'll have received from here.

If I was a "Jersey" guy, Rutgers would be one of the schools I would consider (Would they consider me? :) ). I agree with you about your take on North Carolina and Northerners. The research triangle, the cities (Ral-Dur-CH), and the weather have made it easy for a number of transplants.

As for my children, they are young. I hope they consider schools in Virginia (William & Mary, Richmond, James Madison, Virginia, etc...). I went to school in Virginia and prefer the context of many of their teachings more .

I currently live in Illinois and hope they don't get sucked into the Big 10 mentality. Those schools are way to big. Saying that, I would drown in a school like Wake Forest (3500 students and much too small). I prefer schools that have between 10K and 20K students.

Of all the schools in the area, I am very impressed (who wouldn't be) by the University of Chicago. Northern Illinois is not too far from me and I am impressed by their accounting/tax program and am considering one of their programs. I have also taken courses at DePaul. I am not impressed by Northwestern. They, in my opinion, missed the boat on many of their teaching are are very midwest (not progressive in thought).

To the Memphis State fan, UofL has always been known for their Tough OOC schedules (especially in the Crum era). Now go run along and play with Rice, UCF and SMU now.....

Bambu Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:

Bambu Wrote:

CardsRChamps Wrote:Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy? :laugh:

No because we actually play several top teams every year. Unlike some SEC schools who literally go 12-0 solely against the SWAC.

And you criticize me for being on the CUSA board. Ha Ha.

I don't think I've ever criticized you for posting on a CUSA
board. Though I have defended my team against some of
your weak smack.

And Kentucky once a year ain't "several top ten teams". :laugh:

Your past schedules are out there for anyone that cares. No one
thinks you have a tough OOC, ever , except Card fans. :angel:

NEWS FLASH MORON!!!!!

Our OOC schedule included more tourney teams than Memphis had. That argument of yours just got flushed down the toilet.

The difference is Louisville doesn't have to play a tough OOC schedule to have a highly ranked SOS, but Memphis in the C-USA does.

BTW....how'd those easier non-conference games against La Tech and Ole Miss pan out for ya????

chess Wrote:

brista21 Wrote:I agree the that the NC system is good but only two campuses are Tier 1, NC State - Raleigh and UNC - Chapel Hill. If I had to be living in the South this is one of the few states I could survive in (you can take the boy out of the Northeast but you can't take the Northeast out of the boy) there are plenty of Northerners these days plus the education system in the state of North Carolina is pretty good so when I have kids down the road they're going to get a good education and have the option of attending some fine schools. Although I'd encourage them to check out Rutgers because of the education and memories that I'll have received from here.

If I was a "Jersey" guy, Rutgers would be one of the schools I would consider (Would they consider me? :) ). I agree with you about your take on North Carolina and Northerners. The research triangle, the cities (Ral-Dur-CH), and the weather have made it easy for a number of transplants.

As for my children, they are young. I hope they consider schools in Virginia (William & Mary, Richmond, James Madison, Virginia, etc...). I went to school in Virginia and prefer the context of many of their teachings more .

I currently live in Illinois and hope they don't get sucked into the Big 10 mentality. Those schools are way to big. Saying that, I would drown in a school like Wake Forest (3500 students and much too small). I prefer schools that have between 10K and 20K students.

Of all the schools in the area, I am very impressed (who wouldn't be) by the University of Chicago. Northern Illinois is not too far from me and I am impressed by their accounting/tax program and am considering one of their programs. I have also taken courses at DePaul. I am not impressed by Northwestern. They, in my opinion, missed the boat on many of their teaching are are very midwest (not progressive in thought).

Alot of Rutgers fans pine to be in the Big Ten, but I'm not among them. The Big Ten institutions are a bit too as you put it midwestern for us sans for probably UChicago. I'm glad we're gonna be playing UNC in a double home and home in the next few years we could aspire to be alot like them academically now if the state would give us the support we should have. Instead of giving us 49% of our budget give us 65% like they used to so we can use all the alumni and other private donations to build a big endowment like our Ivy Group friends have.

brista21 Wrote:Alot of Rutgers fans pine to be in the Big Ten, but I'm not among them. The Big Ten institutions are a bit too as you put it midwestern for us sans for probably UChicago.

Now that you mentioned it....

Rutgers would be a great fit fot the Big 10. Penn State really does need a partner on the east and although Pitttsburgh fits many of the profiles, Rutgers is "the University of New Jersey". Being the big research state school with high academic standards describes the Big Ten pretty well. Bringing in a new market would also suit the Big 10 well, too. Rutgers to the Rose Bowl? Hah!

East

Rutgers
Penn State
Ohio State
Indiana
Purdue
Northwestern

West

Michigan
Michigan State
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Illinois

Bambu Wrote:

CollegeCard Wrote:

Bambu Wrote:

CardsRChamps Wrote:Dont look into that "7 SEC teams did have 20 or more wins" line because it is a known fact that most of the SEC schools pads their non conference schedules with patsies which in change gives them those 20 wins.

Do I need to point out the irony and hypocrisy? :laugh:

No because we actually play several top teams every year. Unlike some SEC schools who literally go 12-0 solely against the SWAC.

And you criticize me for being on the CUSA board. Ha Ha.

I don't think I've ever criticized you for posting on a CUSA
board. Though I have defended my team against some of
your weak smack.

And Kentucky once a year ain't "several top ten teams". :laugh:

You did ask why I was posting on the CUSA board within the last 2 months.

As well, you are the one that added the word "ten" in there. I sure didn't mention it. As for not playing anyone other than UK like you imply, how many teams have managed to beat the AP #1 rated and AP #2 rated teams in the nation within a 2 week period before?

UofL did it in December of 2003. It's real interesting that we did that since we supposedly play no one but UK.

Wilkie01 Wrote:Notre Dame and PSU are not going to join the Big East for football! Temple, Army, Navy, UMass, Villanova, etc, are not the answer. Future football membership will come from this group of schools:

Toledo
Miami-Ohio
Marshall
ECU
Memphis
Southern Miss
UAB
Central Florida

Wilkie

I agree with that Wilkus!

The best thing to happen to MWC is Big East having no choice but to add UofL, Cincy and USF.

The second best thing for MWC is for the NBE to expand again adding programs from the pool of schools you listed!

Lobo, I think Navy is STILL driving on New Mexico! Ha Ha. The MWC is so superior that the supposed MWC #2 Lobos got spanked by 15 against Navy, a team that Tulane (finished in a 4 way tie for 6th in CUSA) crushed 42-10!

Last year you had a great team in Utah and then 7 tag-a-longs. This season you won't have the "Utah" of 2004. Better hope someone steps up but not looking likely this year! Of course with no one to go near undefeated, you'll have wins more spread out and the MWC will actually be able to provide a 6 win team for each of your bowls this year! :)

The MWC is a joke, it's funny seeing 10,000 people at Qualcomm stadium for a San Diego St/Wyoming showdown.

The Big East top to bottom is better than the MWC

Bump

Even back then Lobo was all exclamations !!!!!!! Wow, he certainly does feel a need to make himself heard, wonder why no one listens ...?

Loboblast Wrote:

Wilkie01 Wrote:Notre Dame and PSU are not going to join the Big East for football! Temple, Army, Navy, UMass, Villanova, etc, are not the answer. Future football membership will come from this group of schools:

Toledo
Miami-Ohio
Marshall
ECU
Memphis
Southern Miss
UAB
Central Florida

Wilkie

I agree with that Wilkus!

The best thing to happen to MWC is Big East having no choice but to add UofL, Cincy and USF.

The second best thing for MWC is for the NBE to expand again adding programs from the pool of schools you listed!

What do any of you think of the fact that ECU does not have any games scheduled with Big East schools, including long time opponent WVU, after 2009. Some at ECU have said this could be a sign that ECU's chances of joining the BE is not good. However, others have said it is the exact opposite, i.e., current BE schools would not want to sign with ECU as a non-conference only to find out later they have to come up with another non-conference matchup ("at the last minute") if ECU joins. Of course, another possibility is it means nothing, which is probably the case.