I think we just need to stop responding to this poster Orangejuicecrusher or whatever. He is nothing but a troll who should just leave the board.

Look at it this another way...LOTS of MSG tournament seats that used to be sold to the Orangemen can be swept up by Huskies fans.

lot of trolls popping up.

(10-26-2011 03:41 PM)DFW HOYA Wrote:  Look at it this another way...LOTS of MSG tournament seats that used to be sold to the Orangemen can be swept up by Huskies fans.

That certainly would be a plus for UCONN fans. UCONN fans will pack MSG when UCONN is playing there.

The funny thing about Orangecrush is he thinks that Syracuse fits in better then the "Conf USA" Schools in the ACC. He bashes the Metro schools, but doesn't realize that Georgia Tech, FSU, and Va. Tech were all Metro members with UC and Louisville.

I still say losing Cuse and Pitt isn't much of a loss, those two are replaceable. Pitt sucks because it's a regional game, but I could honestly care a less about Cuse leaving.

(10-26-2011 03:58 PM)shocky Wrote:  The funny thing about Orangecrush is he thinks that Syracuse fits in better then the "Conf USA" Schools in the ACC. He bashes the Metro schools, but doesn't realize that Georgia Tech, FSU, and Va. Tech were all Metro members with UC and Louisville.

I still say losing Cuse and Pitt isn't much of a loss, those two are replaceable. Pitt sucks because it's a regional game, but I could honestly care a less about Cuse leaving.

I don't have any problem with Syracuse, and I understand their value. My issue was just with one fan who has blinders on towards other conference members, one of which that has better historical basketball than his own school, the largest athletic budget in the conference, and the 2nd best overall AD performance in the conference behind ND.

Shhh, you don't want to remind a Cuse fan that they are looking up at Cincinnati and Louisville when it comes to number of Basketball championships hanging in the rafters. Oh, and they have the same amount of titles as Marquette.

hahaha what a dumb@ss. He does realize that Cincinnati has won more Conference titles, been to more Final Fours and has more National Championships than Syracuse. Ditto for Louisville. So maybe he is right that they don't belong in the same conference?

(10-25-2011 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-24-2011 10:59 AM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(10-23-2011 09:32 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, I just don't see the Memphis add. USM would be a better add. They are much better in football and that's what we need. Who cares about basketball.

Perhaps I shouldn't comment, since apparently this thread is based on Louisville not being around (which I'm not sure about, by the way). But Memphis has potential and market. Southern Miss is all it's ever going to be. Yes, they field some good football teams and are trending right now. But last December was a good example of what happens to a good Southern Miss team in a bowl match-up against a below average Big East team.

Memphis at least has a big market and the potential to become something more than it is. It's also got some interesting tie-ins to both a big corporation and a bowl. And where would opposing fans rather travel to - Hattiesburg or Memphis?

If Louisville sticks around, I'd advocate Memphis over a lot of teams, including Southern Miss. If Cincy can improve from what it was in CUSA to being perhaps the best performer in the Big East over the past 5 years, then Memphis can move up as well.

Are you serious?? You honestly think Southern Miss has peaked?? You've got to be kidding me...in our absolute WORST years with the absolute WORST statistical defense in the history of Southern Miss, we still manage to go to the st Pete bowl and lose to yall by 3. Congratulations on beating us @ a time when we had the worst defensive coord in our history.

When Southern Miss has down years we still win 7 or 8 games.

USM and Louisville fans ALL know why yall don't want us to be in the same conference as us... "Southern Miss is all it's ever going to be"?

Yeah...perhaps you shouldn't comment on why you don't want anything to do with Southern Miss....because our overall record against yall is something like 18-9-1 or something similar. With USM, the sky is the limit. SMTTT.

This whole thread just amazes me. Louisville, Cincy, and South Florida fans all need to realize what you were before the Big East picked you up in 2003. You were USM. Yes, I'll give Louisville credit for their upswing during that time....but you were basically USM except in bigger markets. Look what Louisville and Cincy were able to accomplish with AQ status. Southern Miss would do the same. Period. Our down yrs are still winning yrs. Now we possibly have a defense again and the sky could be the limit. Southern Miss is on its way back to dominance. The Big East, whatever is left of it, should take notice. Whether through a CUSA/MWest/BE merger or a 'best of' CUSA/BE merger, Southern Miss should be involved. We are not, and have never been a joke. We accomplish more with less than any program in the country....Period!!

(10-26-2011 06:03 PM)eagle215 Wrote:  This whole thread just amazes me. Louisville, Cincy, and South Florida fans all need to realize what you were before the Big East picked you up in 2003. You were USM. Yes, I'll give Louisville credit for their upswing during that time....but you were basically USM except in bigger markets. Look what Louisville and Cincy were able to accomplish with AQ status. Southern Miss would do the same.

I'll let UC and USF fans fend for themselves, but frankly you're just off on the UofL comparison. Louisville's athletic program had more in common with a lot of BCS schools than it did with most CUSA schools by the time it was admitted to the Big East. Clearly it's more than just what happens on the football field and USM fans more than anyone don't appear to realize that. UofL's athletic budget dwarfs USM and that includes what revenue they bring to a conference. USM unfortunately has next to no media market, the basketball comparison speaks for itself, as does the Grand Canyon size difference in attendance and facilities.

I'm not trying to run USM over as I agree your football does more with less than nearly anyone. Yet while you are always in a bowl, you've been unable to reach the level of a BCS bowl worthy team that UofL, Boise, TCU, & Utah all had. UofL's revenue is tops in the league, and ahead of a majority of schools in leagues such as the ACC. Frankly UofL and USM don't have much in common at this point other than a historical football rivalry.

(10-26-2011 06:03 PM)eagle215 Wrote:  

(10-25-2011 01:27 PM)TTT Wrote:  

(10-24-2011 10:59 AM)SmallVoice Wrote:  

(10-23-2011 09:32 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Sorry, I just don't see the Memphis add. USM would be a better add. They are much better in football and that's what we need. Who cares about basketball.

Perhaps I shouldn't comment, since apparently this thread is based on Louisville not being around (which I'm not sure about, by the way). But Memphis has potential and market. Southern Miss is all it's ever going to be. Yes, they field some good football teams and are trending right now. But last December was a good example of what happens to a good Southern Miss team in a bowl match-up against a below average Big East team.

Memphis at least has a big market and the potential to become something more than it is. It's also got some interesting tie-ins to both a big corporation and a bowl. And where would opposing fans rather travel to - Hattiesburg or Memphis?

If Louisville sticks around, I'd advocate Memphis over a lot of teams, including Southern Miss. If Cincy can improve from what it was in CUSA to being perhaps the best performer in the Big East over the past 5 years, then Memphis can move up as well.

Are you serious?? You honestly think Southern Miss has peaked?? You've got to be kidding me...in our absolute WORST years with the absolute WORST statistical defense in the history of Southern Miss, we still manage to go to the st Pete bowl and lose to yall by 3. Congratulations on beating us @ a time when we had the worst defensive coord in our history.

When Southern Miss has down years we still win 7 or 8 games.

USM and Louisville fans ALL know why yall don't want us to be in the same conference as us... "Southern Miss is all it's ever going to be"?

Yeah...perhaps you shouldn't comment on why you don't want anything to do with Southern Miss....because our overall record against yall is something like 18-9-1 or something similar. With USM, the sky is the limit. SMTTT.

This whole thread just amazes me. Louisville, Cincy, and South Florida fans all need to realize what you were before the Big East picked you up in 2003. You were USM. Yes, I'll give Louisville credit for their upswing during that time....but you were basically USM except in bigger markets. Look what Louisville and Cincy were able to accomplish with AQ status. Southern Miss would do the same. Period. Our down yrs are still winning yrs. Now we possibly have a defense again and the sky could be the limit. Southern Miss is on its way back to dominance. The Big East, whatever is left of it, should take notice. Whether through a CUSA/MWest/BE merger or a 'best of' CUSA/BE merger, Southern Miss should be involved. We are not, and have never been a joke. We accomplish more with less than any program in the country....Period!!

agree usm, houston, ecu, ucf would all benefit from AQ just like UC, UofL, and USF has....no doubt.

i hate this system...it creates haves and have nots and it's fricking stupid. college hoops set up is superior to this bs

(10-23-2011 10:02 PM)Stookey57 Wrote:  

(10-23-2011 09:58 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(10-23-2011 09:30 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Shouldn't this be on the realignment board?

It concerns what could be the only three remaining Big East schools as of tomorrow. If you don't want to participate in this thread, then don't.

no way hosey i think byu goes big12 if not wv, it hurts, they should be reblaced by southern miss not ecu.....

Southern Miss is a good program, but why should they be in instead of us?

(10-26-2011 07:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  i hate this system...it creates haves and have nots and it's fricking stupid.

In the 8 years since UC was invited to "join" "the system," has it done anything to try and change it?

Quote:college hoops set up is superior to this bs

(10-27-2011 10:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-26-2011 07:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  i hate this system...it creates haves and have nots and it's fricking stupid.

In the 8 years since UC was invited to "join" "the system," has it done anything to try and change it?

Quote:college hoops set up is superior to this bs

uc isn't going to change anything...so not sure why even ask the question...are you drinking?

hoops set up is superior to football...if you don't agree don't know what to tell you

(10-27-2011 11:01 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(10-27-2011 10:50 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(10-26-2011 07:34 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  i hate this system...it creates haves and have nots and it's fricking stupid.

In the 8 years since UC was invited to "join" "the system," has it done anything to try and change it?

uc isn't going to change anything...so not sure why even ask the question.

The only change to the system is going to come from within.

Quote:hoops set up is superior to football...if you don't agree don't know what to tell you

I do agree. That's what the was trying to say.

(10-25-2011 08:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Yep. Not worried about the AQ. It will stick

BE is going to be doing the BCS the biggest favor ever...taking in most of the remaining non-AQ schools that were raising a stink.

The "stink" they were/are raising amounted to nothing. BCS has nothing to fear from them. AQ will not stick for rump/C-USA refugee Big East.

(10-27-2011 11:07 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-25-2011 08:04 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  BE is going to be doing the BCS the biggest favor ever...taking in most of the remaining non-AQ schools that were raising a stink.

The "stink" they were/are raising amounted to nothing. BCS has nothing to fear from them.

I think QV is probably right about this. But I just highlight the comment to show what an empty threat it is when the BCS leagues periodically threaten to "leave" the NCAA or something like that. In the most important ways, they ALREADY HAVE left.

Quote:AQ will not stick for rump/C-USA refugee Big East.

I think it's going to be very, very close, and people who couldn't stand it to see Manchin and McConnell getting into the act better cover their eyes and ears for a few years because there are going to be a ton of politicians from CT, NJ, OH, KY, FL, UT, ID, NV, and plenty of other places making a big "stink" if their pet-schools don't get in the club.

And even if the "stink" amounts to nothing in the end, dealing with a stack of congressional subpoenas can still be a royal pain in the @ss. Showing up on Capitol Hill for some televised hearings might be Mike Slive's Jim Delany's idea of a pleasant summer day. But then again it just might not be, either.

(10-27-2011 11:17 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  ....... because there are going to be a ton of politicians from CT, NJ, OH, KY, FL, UT, ID, NV, and plenty of other places making a big "stink" if their pet-schools don't get in the club.

Thing is, being part of the AQ club is far less important than it was just 2 years ago. True, then and now, AQ meant $3 million per year for each team. But then, that was huge $$$ at a time when TV contracts were paying $5 million per team.

But now that the big boys are making $20 million per team, AQ has lost much of its meaning, because the dollars are just very small in the overall scheme.

When a school like Georgia has a $100m athletic budget and UCF has a $33m athletic budget, a whole lot more is explaining that gap than the $3 million AQ difference.

(10-27-2011 11:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Thing is, being part of the AQ club is far less important than it was just 2 years ago. True, then and now, AQ meant $3 million per year for each team. But then, that was huge $$$ at a time when TV contracts were paying $5 million per team.

But now that the big boys are making $20 million per team, AQ has lost much of its meaning, because the dollars are just very small in the overall scheme.

Cool. Then Slive/Delany &co. shouldn't have any objection to reserving (say) 2 BCS bids for the 2 highest-ranking teams NOT in the SEC, ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, and Pac-12. That still leaves 8 bids for their 60-65 teams, and 2 bids for all the other 60~ teams. Not too much to ask. I mean, the dollars just aren't all that big in the overall scheme of things...

(10-27-2011 11:38 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-27-2011 11:17 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  ....... because there are going to be a ton of politicians from CT, NJ, OH, KY, FL, UT, ID, NV, and plenty of other places making a big "stink" if their pet-schools don't get in the club.

Thing is, being part of the AQ club is far less important than it was just 2 years ago. True, then and now, AQ meant $3 million per year for each team. But then, that was huge $$$ at a time when TV contracts were paying $5 million per team.

But now that the big boys are making $20 million per team, AQ has lost much of its meaning, because the dollars are just very small in the overall scheme.

I think your first sentence is correct...as the rush is for TV $$$$ which can be locked up...but AQ status (and rules) can get change or be adjusted in the next go around in 2013.

However, the TV $$$$ are flowing to basically just 5-6 conferences...and all of those are BCS AQ Conf.