Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(08-02-2011 01:10 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(I'm guessing) Maize put up Providence, because they're unofficially protected. This is based on the makeup of the conference leadership, throughout BE history.

(08-02-2011 01:15 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:10 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(I'm guessing) Maize put up Providence, because they're unofficially protected. This is based on the makeup of the conference leadership, throughout BE history.

It just kinda hard to see them kicked out especially since they pretty much founded the league. Founding member vs. New Comer Non Football school.


By the way, if it is in NYC then it would almost have to be @ Yankee Stadium until it built up. Then move it to the "New Meadowland" Stadium.

(08-02-2011 01:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:15 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:10 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(I'm guessing) Maize put up Providence, because they're unofficially protected. This is based on the makeup of the conference leadership, throughout BE history.

It just kinda hard to see them kicked out especially since they pretty much founded the league. Founding member vs. New Comer Non Football school.


By the way, if it is in NYC then it would almost have to be @ Yankee Stadium until it built up. Then move it to the "New Meadowland" Stadium.

Got it, thanks guys. I really hate Providence right now.

(08-02-2011 11:11 AM)Joey_Niklas Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:07 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Just dont put it in Yankee stadium

As much as I hate the possibility of an off campus championship game Yankee Stadium is the best venue in NYC or our games will look eerily similar to the ACC Title Games.

A baseball stadium is a really stupid place to plat a football game!

(08-02-2011 01:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:15 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:10 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(I'm guessing) Maize put up Providence, because they're unofficially protected. This is based on the makeup of the conference leadership, throughout BE history.

It just kinda hard to see them kicked out especially since they pretty much founded the league. Founding member vs. New Comer Non Football school.


By the way, if it is in NYC then it would almost have to be @ Yankee Stadium until it built up. Then move it to the "New Meadowland" Stadium.

Anything is possible...heck, Rice was a founding member of the Southwest Conf...and after 81 years...they were basically told "Get lost. We don't need you anymore."

Follow the TV $$$$...and thats the best place to start.

(08-02-2011 11:27 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:10 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  BE neutral site FB championship = BAD IDEA!

It is...doubt it would ever happen...but I think the Commish even TALKING about a Championship Game is a good thing (i.e. agenda to push for 12 football members might be on the table).

Big East would do exactly what the Pac-12 will do and what CUSA have done, let the team with the best record host the game so that the game would be played in a good atmosphere, sell tix, and look good on TV.

....12 members? Perhaps....but what if the NCAA removes the requirement to have 12 teams to hold a championship game?

(08-02-2011 01:26 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:21 PM)Maize Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:15 PM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 01:10 PM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  Maize, just out curiousity, did you add Providence over Marquette because of the BE office location or is there another reason?

(I'm guessing) Maize put up Providence, because they're unofficially protected. This is based on the makeup of the conference leadership, throughout BE history.

It just kinda hard to see them kicked out especially since they pretty much founded the league. Founding member vs. New Comer Non Football school.


By the way, if it is in NYC then it would almost have to be @ Yankee Stadium until it built up. Then move it to the "New Meadowland" Stadium.

Anything is possible...heck, Rice was a founding member of the Southwest Conf...and after 81 years...they were basically told "Get lost. We don't need you anymore."

Follow the TV $$$$...and thats the best place to start.

Unfortunately I feel like the Big East brass is far too shortsighted and passive to make a move like that. They just seem to have the attitude of 'we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings'. Great leadership.

(08-02-2011 01:26 PM)KnightLight Wrote:  Rice was a founding member of the Southwest Conf...and after 81 years...they were basically told "Get lost. We don't need you anymore."

Not quite. Five teams left the SWC: Rice was one that stayed behind until it died. That is a very big difference.

No thanks. Much rather have it in DC if it were a neutral site but the PAC 12 model is the best choice. Im also thinking 12-16.

Wi

(08-02-2011 01:26 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:11 AM)Joey_Niklas Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:07 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Just dont put it in Yankee stadium

As much as I hate the possibility of an off campus championship game Yankee Stadium is the best venue in NYC or our games will look eerily similar to the ACC Title Games.

A baseball stadium is a really stupid place to plat a football game!

Wilkie you know you have college bowl games being played @ the home fields of San Francisco Giants, Tampa Bay Rays & the New York Yankees. Plus Yankee Stadium has a history of hosting big time college football games & even the Big Ten is now having games @ Wrigley Field

(08-02-2011 11:11 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:06 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  I'm more in favor of the PAC-12's model for a CCG but I wouldn't mind a neutral site game in the New Meadowlands Stadium as it would showcase the Big East's crown jewel- New York City. However any neutral site game at any site has the danger of looking like the infamous ACC championship game.

Yes, indeed. What happens if you have USF vs. TCU?

...it would be an ACC-esque disaster. Same thing could be said for just about any other school in the conference as I don't think the Big East could sell out the new Meadowland stadium and showcasing our championship game in Yankee Stadium would look so bush league on TV.

IMO, the CUSA model where the team with league's best record is ideal. It puts a premium on winning and earning the right to host the game. I don't see any examples where there wouldn't be a sell out or near sell out for our championship games....which would make for great TV.

(08-02-2011 01:36 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:11 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:06 AM)cinbinsportsfan Wrote:  I'm more in favor of the PAC-12's model for a CCG but I wouldn't mind a neutral site game in the New Meadowlands Stadium as it would showcase the Big East's crown jewel- New York City. However any neutral site game at any site has the danger of looking like the infamous ACC championship game.

Yes, indeed. What happens if you have USF vs. TCU?

...it would be an ACC-esque disaster. Same thing could be said for just about any other school in the conference as I don't think the Big East could sell out the new Meadowland stadium and showcasing our championship game in Yankee Stadium would look so bush league on TV.

IMO, the CUSA model where the team with league's best record is ideal. It puts a premium on winning and earning the right to host the game. I don't see any examples where there wouldn't be a sell out or near sell out for our championship games....which would make for great TV.

Just a pet peeve. Can we please stop comparing which model to use in regards to a title game. Instead of using the C-USA reference use fellow BCS AQ League the Pac 12.

(08-02-2011 01:36 PM)Maize Wrote:  Wi

(08-02-2011 01:26 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:11 AM)Joey_Niklas Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:07 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  Just dont put it in Yankee stadium

As much as I hate the possibility of an off campus championship game Yankee Stadium is the best venue in NYC or our games will look eerily similar to the ACC Title Games.

A baseball stadium is a really stupid place to plat a football game!

Wilkie you know you have college bowl games being played @ the home fields of San Francisco Giants, Tampa Bay Rays & the New York Yankees. Plus Yankee Stadium has a history of hosting big time college football games & even the Big Ten is now having games @ Wrigley Field

I do not care, football should be played in a real football stadium!

(08-02-2011 01:29 PM)CyberBull Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:27 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  

(08-02-2011 11:10 AM)BJUnklFkr Wrote:  BE neutral site FB championship = BAD IDEA!

It is...doubt it would ever happen...but I think the Commish even TALKING about a Championship Game is a good thing (i.e. agenda to push for 12 football members might be on the table).

Big East would do exactly what the Pac-12 will do and what CUSA have done, let the team with the best record host the game so that the game would be played in a good atmosphere, sell tix, and look good on TV.

....12 members? Perhaps....but what if the NCAA removes the requirement to have 12 teams to hold a championship game?

The uber rich Big Ten when they had 11 members was rejected by the NCAA to host a Championship Game with fewer than 12 members...so I doubt the NCAA would suddenly approve the likes of conf like the Sunbelt or the big east to do just that.

However, ANYTHING is possible and certainly no skin off one's back if they just ask...as sometimes you might be surprised by the answer.

If there is an NYC Championship Game with a reconfigured, slimmed down basketball conference the league needs to go out of its way to schedule a "Big East Basketball Invitational" of some kind in the city. Get a few big early season OOC match-ups, maybe a double header the night before. It would definitely be added incentive to support the football game.

12 is and has been the magic number. Its not changing for anybody. I'll repeat that, anybody.....

(08-02-2011 01:49 PM)L-yes Wrote:  If there is an NYC Championship Game with a reconfigured, slimmed down basketball conference league needs to go out of its way to schedule a "Big East Basketball Invitational" of some kind in the city. Get a few big early season OOC match-ups, maybe a double header the night before. It would definitely be added incentive to support the football game.

+1 good idea.

Yankee Stadium wasn't too bad for last year's game between Notre Dame and Army.

http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2010/11/...ter-train/


But, I agree that the Meadowlands would be a much better venue, as would Lincoln Field in Philly or Fed Ex Field in Washington.

It really depends on how else is added to the football side. It it happens to be bcs school (s) with larger fan bases then the meadow lands could be a possibility

If its ECU and Houston, then Yankee Staduim would be the way to to go

Jackson