How obvious is it that this is a pro Big East/C-USA board.

I think a solid fan base is more important than having 4 or 5 winning years in a row. I know a few Big East teams that with the criteria everyone list would not have had a chance but they got the invite and flurished with it. How big could ECU football become in the Big East? BIG....I think some fans are jealous of that potential. Same with Memphis...They would be 3rd or 4th every year in BE basketball attendance. Look at the votes on the page...CUSA EAST has solid fan bases. But we got people who want to destroy the BE by spreading the conference all the way to the west coast....Texas is to far already but that is as far as it should ever get if anyone understands anything about real conference fan base growth.

From the blog posting:
Big East record in BCS bowls: 6-4.
ACC record in BCS bowls: 1-9.

2010 NCAA Football Stats

Bowl wins

MWC: 2 (C-USA 0-1)
C-USA: 2 (MWC 1-0)



Ranked teams:

MWC: 2
C-USA: 2



SOS: 53. Nevada
65. AFA
66. Tulsa
67. SDST
68. USM
69. Fresno State
70. UNLV
73. Houston
79. Hawaii
80. ECU
83. Memphis
84. UCF
85. UNM
86. SMU
88. CSU
89. UTEP
90. Tulane
93. Wyo
97. Rice
101. UAB
104. Marshall

That SOS is damn close and would probably be lower if wasn't for the 2 Utah schools and TCU.

Bowls (last 4 years)

MWC is 1-4 against C-USA

Those numbers are pretty close.

Who has the advantage. You tell me.

Hey Utefans. I thought Utah was in the Pac 12. I guess I was wrong.

(07-05-2011 12:49 PM)Utezone.com Wrote:  Just noticed every preseason magazine out there ranks the MWC as the best non-AQ conference going into next year.


Here's the new MWC rankings according to Athlom

#5 Boise St
#29 Air Force
#65 Nevada
#66 San Diego St
#67 Hawaii
#78 Fresno
#91 Colorado St
#98 Wyoming
#107 UNLV
#117 New Mexico



Average ranking- 72.3



CUSA

#49 SMU
#51 Central Florida
#55 Southern Miss
#58 Houston
#62 Tulsa
#82 ECU
#87 UAB. Average ranking- 80.4
#94 Rice
#95 Marshall
#106 Tulane
#108 UTEP
#118 Memphis

Preseason rankings........ Nice!

(07-05-2011 11:46 AM)Utezone.com Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:10 AM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  When the C-USA and MWC actually play C-USA wins.

Advantage: C-USA

You do realize you're wrong again.. Right?



7 of 8 MWC teams have an overall winning record lifetime vs CUSA teams.



Quit blurting out lies and do some research.

WRONG!

Since realignment records

UNM: 1-5
BSU: 3-1
Nevada: 1-1
CSU: 1-1
Hawaii: 0-1
Fresno: 0-1
SDST: 0-0
UNLV: 0-0
WYO: 0-0
AFA: 2-1

MWC is 8-11 against C-USA since realignment

Try researching a little bit harder.

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

MWC>CUSA>BE.

So C-USA has a winning record vs. MWC. We must be the better conference.

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

you do realize that the new MWC has 3 BCS games to your 0, zilch, none. You do realize that the remaining/future MWC are well ahead of the CUSA school in head to head. You do realize that even the WAC which includes the future members of the MWC was also ahead of CUSA. You do realize that CUSA was below the WAC and MWC in all of those categories listed on the Steele's blog.

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

research this...
How many BCS games has CUSA had?
What are the Head to head records of the MWC vs current CUSA?
How many ranked teams has current CUSA had vs new MWC and for how many weeks?
Wins vs AQ conf.?

let me know how it goes. I know the answers. You ignore them.

(07-05-2011 07:47 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

you do realize that the new MWC has 3 BCS games to your 0, zilch, none. You do realize that the remaining/future MWC are well ahead of the CUSA school in head to head. You do realize that even the WAC which includes the future members of the MWC was also ahead of CUSA. You do realize that CUSA was below the WAC and MWC in all of those categories listed on the Steele's blog.

1. Congrats to Boise!

2. Have you MWC fans ever thought the reason C-USA has not had any BCS Busters in because we have better teams.

3. C-USA below the WAC in ALL of the categories on Steele's blog.

C-USA was better than WAC in 2 of those catergories. 2 of those catergories were tied.

(07-05-2011 07:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

research this...
How many BCS games has CUSA had?
What are the Head to head records of the MWC vs current CUSA?
How many ranked teams has current CUSA had vs new MWC and for how many weeks?
Wins vs AQ conf.?

let me know how it goes. I know the answers. You ignore them.

See post 127.

(07-05-2011 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  So C-USA has a winning record vs. MWC. We must be the better conference.

102 more losses than wins counts as winning record to you huh? Please spin away. How about you rig the numbers so that we only count the games where CUSA is at home or on a certain your were you may have finished with a better record. But never the all encompassing over all record.

MWC team records v. CUSA and win percentages

Against CUSA

AFA - 31-11 (74%)
BSU - 16-2 (89%)
UNM - 47-44-3 (52%)
UNLV - 6-11 (35%)
Fresno - 23-5-1 (81%)
Nevada - 13-11 (54%)
SDSU - 22-9 (71%)
CSU - 30-20 (60%)
WYO - 33-15-1 (68%)
Hawaii - 34-24 (59%)

MWC Total - 255-153-5

(07-05-2011 07:56 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:46 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  So C-USA has a winning record vs. MWC. We must be the better conference.

102 more losses than wins counts as winning record to you huh? Please spin away. How about you rig the numbers so that we only count the games where CUSA is at home or on a certain your were you may have finished with a better record. But never the all encompassing over all record.

MWC team records v. CUSA and win percentages

Against CUSA

AFA - 31-11 (74%)
BSU - 16-2 (89%)
UNM - 47-44-3 (52%)
UNLV - 6-11 (35%)
Fresno - 23-5-1 (81%)
Nevada - 13-11 (54%)
SDSU - 22-9 (71%)
CSU - 30-20 (60%)
WYO - 33-15-1 (68%)
Hawaii - 34-24 (59%)

MWC Total - 255-153-5

The numbers are since conference realignment fool.

Congrats you beat Tulane in 1946. Nobody cares.

(07-05-2011 07:55 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 07:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

research this...
How many BCS games has CUSA had?
What are the Head to head records of the MWC vs current CUSA?
How many ranked teams has current CUSA had vs new MWC and for how many weeks?
Wins vs AQ conf.?

let me know how it goes. I know the answers. You ignore them.

See post 127.

see post 135, you forgot Hawaii, and I know you wish you had a Boise in your conf. but you don't.

(07-05-2011 07:58 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 07:55 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 07:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

research this...
How many BCS games has CUSA had?
What are the Head to head records of the MWC vs current CUSA?
How many ranked teams has current CUSA had vs new MWC and for how many weeks?
Wins vs AQ conf.?

let me know how it goes. I know the answers. You ignore them.

See post 127.

see post 135, you forgot Hawaii, and I know you wish you had a Boise in your conf. but you don't.

No I didn't. Hawaii was included. They are 0-1.

(07-05-2011 07:58 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 07:55 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 07:52 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 06:28 PM)Beagleagle23 Wrote:  

(07-05-2011 12:42 PM)Fresno St. Alum Wrote:  Wow, the rankings over the last 10 years(Phil Steele) even has the WAC ahead of CUSA

http://blog.philsteele.com/2010/07/10/co...st-decade/

I love how the CUSAers like to throw out Boise St. like they don't count.

You do realize that is with Utah, BYU, and TCU right. You do know half of those numbers are before realignment right. Do some research.

research this...
How many BCS games has CUSA had?
What are the Head to head records of the MWC vs current CUSA?
How many ranked teams has current CUSA had vs new MWC and for how many weeks?
Wins vs AQ conf.?

let me know how it goes. I know the answers. You ignore them.

See post 127.

I know you wish you had a Boise in your conference.

Why? So they could take the credit for all the conference's work. Nah I will pass.