(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I also think he didnt have the relationship with his father that Ben had. Makes me wonder if the aliens were the closest thing he actually had to family.

(07-24-2011 10:34 PM)Burn the Horse Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

was he with the skitters longer?

Whatever the answer is, its the key to the whole story.

I just don't see where they are going with this. They need to expand the plot line a bit.

You have to be patient for sci fi. I dont want them to let the cat out of the bag too soon because then its all over.

(07-25-2011 09:07 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  I just don't see where they are going with this. They need to expand the plot line a bit.

patience is a virtue my friend.

I'm not saying they should hurry. I'm just saying I don't see where they could take this right now. I think they should involve other groups from around the world in the fight against the invaders...thicken the plot etc.

well with a second season already green lighted i'm sure the budget and scope will expand.

(07-25-2011 10:36 AM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  I'm not saying they should hurry. I'm just saying I don't see where they could take this right now. I think they should involve other groups from around the world in the fight against the invaders...thicken the plot etc.

At this point thats not the primary focus. The primary focus right now is on the small groups trying to stay alive and learn more about the Skitters. Back in the firsts episode one of the lines given was about how small groups can win war's simply by driving their opposition crazy.

Thats sort of the point right now, we're not actually going to fight a large scale battle, but we're going to nickel and dime you enough that hopefully it will weaken you, and once that happens we're going to combine together and destroy you

this is Vietnam, only WE are the VC.

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I think it has something to do with Rick's past ailments, and now his apparent healing. To Rick, they were better parents than his father, who couldn't "heal" him. Maybe this helped him form a deeper attachment to them than Ben, who simply experienced it as slave labor.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the series so far. I've watched from the beginning and I agree with the earlier statements - I don't think the dialogue/character development to serious action scene ratio is correct. A lot of the episodes drag for portions, and most action scenes are short snippets. I'll stay with it, but I hope the action picks up and the mushy stuff lessens.

(07-25-2011 05:59 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I think it has something to do with Rick's past ailments, and now his apparent healing. To Rick, they were better parents than his father, who couldn't "heal" him. Maybe this helped him form a deeper attachment to them than Ben, who simply experienced it as slave labor.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the series so far. I've watched from the beginning and I agree with the earlier statements - I don't think the dialogue/character development to serious action scene ratio is correct. A lot of the episodes drag for portions, and most action scenes are short snippets. I'll stay with it, but I hope the action picks up and the mushy stuff lessens.

Mike said he knew the traitor from the first week after the invasion and that he used to talk about Rick, so I do think that Rick was taken earlier than Ben.
Maybe Ben is less attached because his skitter was killed and Rick's wasn't?
I get the historical comparisons to insurgencies in the past, but they were successful because they kept bleeding the superior forces with ambushes, sabotage, etc. The 2nd Mass just sits around their school. Shouldn't they be raiding the skitters? Obviously they would be scared of bringing down an attack on themselves, but isn't the long-term winning strategy to stay on the offensive in a small-scale way?

give it time

(07-13-2011 01:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I finally watched the most recent episode last night.

What I was left wondering was what happened with the kids vitals dropping after they were rescued and the one kid ultimately dying. Also when Ben came to he recognized his father, unlike Rick, who when he came to not only didn't recognize his father, he put his harness back on.

The combination of that, and the aforementioned strangeness of the way the skitter treats the kids and the kids not wanting Hal to kill the skitter, seems like we're heading towards some sort of revelation that a group of kids are attached to one specific skitter and vic versa.

Wonder if the skitters are no longer able to reproduce or something like that? They all seem to be the same size, granted like humans they could have both military and civilian subsets within their society, but something to think about...

(07-25-2011 05:59 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I think it has something to do with Rick's past ailments, and now his apparent healing. To Rick, they were better parents than his father, who couldn't "heal" him. Maybe this helped him form a deeper attachment to them than Ben, who simply experienced it as slave labor.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the series so far. I've watched from the beginning and I agree with the earlier statements - I don't think the dialogue/character development to serious action scene ratio is correct. A lot of the episodes drag for portions, and most action scenes are short snippets. I'll stay with it, but I hope the action picks up and the mushy stuff lessens.

I quoted my previous post for emphasis.

I came up with this three episodes ago and I'm believing most of this is true and it's headed in this direction.

I think the difference in Rick and Ben definitely could have something to do with the skitter watching over Ben having been killed and we don't really know about Rick's skitter. Also remember how the kids from Ben's group all started dying and one of them ultimately did die. I'm wondering if Rick somehow comes back to normal if they end up ultimately killing the skitter who had harnessed Rick.

In regards to the skitter having healed Rick, while Ben may not have been sick, it's been made clear that he benefited physically from the harness as well, remember the 102 push-ups? So I don't think the healing of Rick's ailment is what has Rick turned to the skitters side, he sounds like he's still attached somehow, it doesn't sound like he's making the choice of the skitters over humans, but rather that the choice was made for him.

I'm going back to my idea of how the skitters can no longer reproduce, the big secret that's coming out is going to have something to do with this idea. With the harnessed kids eventually turning into skitters or something like that. They wan't the kids, because they're still growing and developing and can be grown and developed into a skitter. Adults do them no good, because they've finished growing.

(07-31-2011 01:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2011 01:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I finally watched the most recent episode last night.

What I was left wondering was what happened with the kids vitals dropping after they were rescued and the one kid ultimately dying. Also when Ben came to he recognized his father, unlike Rick, who when he came to not only didn't recognize his father, he put his harness back on.

The combination of that, and the aforementioned strangeness of the way the skitter treats the kids and the kids not wanting Hal to kill the skitter, seems like we're heading towards some sort of revelation that a group of kids are attached to one specific skitter and vic versa.

Wonder if the skitters are no longer able to reproduce or something like that? They all seem to be the same size, granted like humans they could have both military and civilian subsets within their society, but something to think about...

(07-25-2011 05:59 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I think it has something to do with Rick's past ailments, and now his apparent healing. To Rick, they were better parents than his father, who couldn't "heal" him. Maybe this helped him form a deeper attachment to them than Ben, who simply experienced it as slave labor.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the series so far. I've watched from the beginning and I agree with the earlier statements - I don't think the dialogue/character development to serious action scene ratio is correct. A lot of the episodes drag for portions, and most action scenes are short snippets. I'll stay with it, but I hope the action picks up and the mushy stuff lessens.

I quoted my previous post for emphasis.

I came up with this three episodes ago and I'm believing most of this is true and it's headed in this direction.

I think the difference in Rick and Ben definitely could have something to do with the skitter watching over Ben having been killed and we don't really know about Rick's skitter. Also remember how the kids from Ben's group all started dying and one of them ultimately did die. I'm wondering if Rick somehow comes back to normal if they end up ultimately killing the skitter who had harnessed Rick.

In regards to the skitter having healed Rick, while Ben may not have been sick, it's been made clear that he benefited physically from the harness as well, remember the 102 push-ups? So I don't think the healing of Rick's ailment is what has Rick turned to the skitters side, he sounds like he's still attached somehow, it doesn't sound like he's making the choice of the skitters over humans, but rather that the choice was made for him.

I'm going back to my idea of how the skitters can no longer reproduce, the big secret that's coming out is going to have something to do with this idea. With the harnessed kids eventually turning into skitters or something like that. They wan't the kids, because they're still growing and developing and can be grown and developed into a skitter. Adults do them no good, because they've finished growing.

Last weeks previews kind of indicated some shocking reveal tonight. Hybrid?

(07-31-2011 02:18 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-31-2011 01:42 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(07-13-2011 01:26 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  I finally watched the most recent episode last night.

What I was left wondering was what happened with the kids vitals dropping after they were rescued and the one kid ultimately dying. Also when Ben came to he recognized his father, unlike Rick, who when he came to not only didn't recognize his father, he put his harness back on.

The combination of that, and the aforementioned strangeness of the way the skitter treats the kids and the kids not wanting Hal to kill the skitter, seems like we're heading towards some sort of revelation that a group of kids are attached to one specific skitter and vic versa.

Wonder if the skitters are no longer able to reproduce or something like that? They all seem to be the same size, granted like humans they could have both military and civilian subsets within their society, but something to think about...

(07-25-2011 05:59 PM)BLEEDITRED Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:28 PM)panama Wrote:  

(07-24-2011 10:07 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  next week looks like we're going to learn alot about the Skitters.

Rick with a really scary line about how "Humans kill their own, and we would never do that"

So why is Rick still part Skitter and Ben apparently is not?

I think it has something to do with Rick's past ailments, and now his apparent healing. To Rick, they were better parents than his father, who couldn't "heal" him. Maybe this helped him form a deeper attachment to them than Ben, who simply experienced it as slave labor.

I'm kind of 50/50 on the series so far. I've watched from the beginning and I agree with the earlier statements - I don't think the dialogue/character development to serious action scene ratio is correct. A lot of the episodes drag for portions, and most action scenes are short snippets. I'll stay with it, but I hope the action picks up and the mushy stuff lessens.

I quoted my previous post for emphasis.

I came up with this three episodes ago and I'm believing most of this is true and it's headed in this direction.

I think the difference in Rick and Ben definitely could have something to do with the skitter watching over Ben having been killed and we don't really know about Rick's skitter. Also remember how the kids from Ben's group all started dying and one of them ultimately did die. I'm wondering if Rick somehow comes back to normal if they end up ultimately killing the skitter who had harnessed Rick.

In regards to the skitter having healed Rick, while Ben may not have been sick, it's been made clear that he benefited physically from the harness as well, remember the 102 push-ups? So I don't think the healing of Rick's ailment is what has Rick turned to the skitters side, he sounds like he's still attached somehow, it doesn't sound like he's making the choice of the skitters over humans, but rather that the choice was made for him.

I'm going back to my idea of how the skitters can no longer reproduce, the big secret that's coming out is going to have something to do with this idea. With the harnessed kids eventually turning into skitters or something like that. They wan't the kids, because they're still growing and developing and can be grown and developed into a skitter. Adults do them no good, because they've finished growing.

Last weeks previews kind of indicated some shocking reveal tonight. Hybrid?

Yeah I'm thinking something like that.

Now that Entourage is back, I have two and a half hours of television on Sunday nights...

all we've heard tonight is about the shocking reveal. So thats what we've got to go on

For those who noticed it, theres a released scene tonight in which Ben apparently did 2 hours straight worth of sit ups...

While in almost every case released scenes have little to do with an outcome of a particular episode...almost all seem to give out more information about the Skitters in general. I think they are using those released scenes to give us slow leaks of info that will help us guess the final big revelation when it comes to the skitters later on

I know what the big secret is...

the skitters are working with the Taliban.

Anyone watching tonight?

(07-31-2011 09:06 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Anyone watching tonight?

I am. Just got home.

Skitter bullets can go through walls

Rick's drawing pictures of all his alien friends, Weaver having nightmares