(06-08-2017 05:13 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 03:40 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  The Baptists want in the Catholic conference?

Well, I guess they took the Mormons on ...

Guess that means that Pepperdine and Pacific should have been excluded.

Did not realize there were other non Catholic schools in the WCC now. Thanks for pointing that out to me, I was wrong to assume that.

(06-08-2017 08:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 03:35 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 01:28 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 12:46 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Complain to the Phoenix station that reported GCU, NMSU and the Horizon were talking. Obviously it's fake news to you.

Where in the below statement of opinion does it say that NMSU and GCU are talking with the Horizon? Incredible.

By the way, I like how they've "outgrown" the WAC even though they haven't done anything. Good stuff and more proof that intelligent journalists don't exist any longer.

The Horizon League should be the next landing spot for Grand Canyon University. Valparaiso just left the Horizon for the Missouri Valley Conference so there is an opening. The ‘Lopes have out-grown the WAC and the West Coast Conference Presidents aren’t going to take in a For-Profit university. The Horizon has Detroit, Cleveland, and Milwaukee as hub cities for schools within the conference, nothing wrong with that, beats Bakersfield, Cedar City and Las Cruces. As to the idea that travel would be a problem, well, I’d kindly point out at that a direct three hour flight would get GCU into the Horizon about the same or quicker than a flight and bus trip. In a day and age where Universities are struggling with athletic budgets, GCU has to make sure that the Conference they belong to is in great health. Hard for anyone to convince me that the WAC is in that space…

Jerry Colangelo, who has GCU's business school named after him, has said there are other conference opps for GCU. Presume that isn't the Pac12, MWC, WCC or Big West.

Just waiting to hear how that is fake.

Wrong again. You have to stop doing this. Here is the link to Colangelo's interview.

http://www.sports360az.com/2017/06/46776/

Not once in in the interview does Colangelo state GCU currently has other opportunities. Instead what he says is that he "thinks" there could be movement among several mid-major leagues including the possibility of a new league forming and that could have an affect on schools like GCU. Again, his opinion, no facts.

Oh, and I love how the interviewer provides a link to his earlier opinion piece portraying the opinion piece as proof that there are "rumors" GCU are leaving for a new league. You just can't make this stuff up.

I would suggest reading past this guys headlines. This is not a radio station. It is a website pretending to be a radio station. It is run by one guy who used to be in radio who is trying to draw traffic to his site.

Where was I wrong on that? The Big West and WCC aren't going to restructure for him. Too many posters like above are just so dang arrogant as they know more than poor Jerry. Other low major conferences are not going to let the WAC fold, as they would have full houses with less $'s. The WAC and Big Sky would realign just based on necessity of maximizing their NCAA income and lesser travel.

You mean like a Big Sky and WAC and Summit realignment that I described that you and others shredded me for suggesting it? But Colangelo says there is maybe momentum toward?

Several posters said that was way outside the realm of possibility, but Jerry C confirms that there has been at least in his mind. It was also on mine. Jerry Coangelo didn't make millions by dreaming up absurd dreams and then making them reality.

Here's a shaker and maker that wants things done differently with a new alignment, and posters here are actually so vain as to p*ss on him. No matter what you say, will take Colangelo's opinions vs your facfs.

There's nothing wrong with opinions and hearsay on message boards, so long as they're recognized as such.

I think the WCC is far more likely than the Horizon League for GCU, for what it's worth.

(06-09-2017 11:06 AM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 08:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 03:35 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 02:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 01:28 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:  Where in the below statement of opinion does it say that NMSU and GCU are talking with the Horizon? Incredible.

By the way, I like how they've "outgrown" the WAC even though they haven't done anything. Good stuff and more proof that intelligent journalists don't exist any longer.

The Horizon League should be the next landing spot for Grand Canyon University. Valparaiso just left the Horizon for the Missouri Valley Conference so there is an opening. The ‘Lopes have out-grown the WAC and the West Coast Conference Presidents aren’t going to take in a For-Profit university. The Horizon has Detroit, Cleveland, and Milwaukee as hub cities for schools within the conference, nothing wrong with that, beats Bakersfield, Cedar City and Las Cruces. As to the idea that travel would be a problem, well, I’d kindly point out at that a direct three hour flight would get GCU into the Horizon about the same or quicker than a flight and bus trip. In a day and age where Universities are struggling with athletic budgets, GCU has to make sure that the Conference they belong to is in great health. Hard for anyone to convince me that the WAC is in that space…

Jerry Colangelo, who has GCU's business school named after him, has said there are other conference opps for GCU. Presume that isn't the Pac12, MWC, WCC or Big West.

Just waiting to hear how that is fake.

Wrong again. You have to stop doing this. Here is the link to Colangelo's interview.

http://www.sports360az.com/2017/06/46776/

Not once in in the interview does Colangelo state GCU currently has other opportunities. Instead what he says is that he "thinks" there could be movement among several mid-major leagues including the possibility of a new league forming and that could have an affect on schools like GCU. Again, his opinion, no facts.

Oh, and I love how the interviewer provides a link to his earlier opinion piece portraying the opinion piece as proof that there are "rumors" GCU are leaving for a new league. You just can't make this stuff up.

I would suggest reading past this guys headlines. This is not a radio station. It is a website pretending to be a radio station. It is run by one guy who used to be in radio who is trying to draw traffic to his site.

Where was I wrong on that? The Big West and WCC aren't going to restructure for him. Too many posters like above are just so dang arrogant as they know more than poor Jerry. Other low major conferences are not going to let the WAC fold, as they would have full houses with less $'s. The WAC and Big Sky would realign just based on necessity of maximizing their NCAA income and lesser travel.

You mean like a Big Sky and WAC and Summit realignment that I described that you and others shredded me for suggesting it? But Colangelo says there is maybe momentum toward?

Several posters said that was way outside the realm of possibility, but Jerry C confirms that there has been at least in his mind. It was also on mine. Jerry Coangelo didn't make millions by dreaming up absurd dreams and then making them reality.

Here's a shaker and maker that wants things done differently with a new alignment, and posters here are actually so vain as to p*ss on him. No matter what you say, will take Colangelo's opinions vs your facfs.

The topic is IPFW/IUPUI and Horizon expansion. You stated, in error that a radio station and Jerry Colangelo both said GCU are specifically talking to, the online radio Horizon, Colangelo, a conference. Neither did what you said they did.

As for Colangelo. He is stating his opinion that, in general he thinks there may be movement in the future which MAY include the creation of a new mid-major league. He has not one ounce of proof, nor does he state their is proof. Nor does he say he is somehow working behind the scenes to get anything done. It is his opinion, one shared by many who also have no proof or no specifics.

My, OPINION is that there will be movement in the next decade among the mid-majors and I think it will be geographically driven. As the money dries up from TV, CFP and from State leadership long distance conference membership will make no sense. Mid major leagues who branched out will begin to tighten the footprint. You are already seeing it in the Sun Belt, dumping Idaho and NMSU while adding Coastal. The Summit bringing on UND. The MVC choosing Valpo. Expect similar moves from the HL, WAC, Big Sky and CUSA.

I agree, but my reasoning goes like this: there are really two separate sets of "what makes sense". You have what makes sense for football, particularly FBS football, and you have what makes sense for everything else.

As far as the latter goes: flying around the country for confernece games does not make sense. One thing to do an early season tournament or for post-season.