(02-18-2017 02:50 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:20 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 10:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Looks like Liberty did better than the Sun Belt!

How is that?

Being independent and charting your own chart is superior to being part of the worst G4 directional conference.

Sun Belt.

Totally agree with you. I think many fans will be shocked at schools that played at Lynchburg in other D1 sports.

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WVU
Army
ODU
Penn State
Army
UVA
MD
Duke
Ball State
Kent State
Va Tech
UNC
ECU
UCONN
Kentucky

I doubt football will have an issue getting home games. Just from the list above ODU, Duke, Ball State, Kent State and Army H/H. Payday away games: Penn State, WVU, UNC, Va Tech, UVA, WVU, MD and ECU.

We will see who LU gets to come to Lynchburg. I suspect one Belt team (probably Troy or Ga Southern), NMSU, UMass, and a few others. If LU gets a good home get, LU will be paying for it in some way.

Here are a few other recent/future visitors to SBC schools. Miami (FL), Missouri, Boise State, Iowa State, North Carolina, NC State, Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, Wake Forest, Kansas, Miss State, Memphis, San Diego State

Lets see who LU gets. My guess is that they'll get someone. But they won't get any rivals. Maybe a 4 year deal.

(02-18-2017 09:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 11:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Seriously.....if you are a regional school you'll be cutting your own throat out of spite if you don't schedule them. Liberty fans travel. That equals tickets sold. That equals money in the bank.

I hope that the decisionmakers aren't stupid enough to listen to the SJWs who don't support athletics to begin with.

Why would a school like USA schedule Liberty?

So we can have 2k LU fans at the game? So friggin' what. USA doesn't recruit South Central Virginia and likely never will. Very few people watch their TV network.

LU wants to recruit South Alabama...we don't recruit there. And we probably never will. Playing LU doesn't help USA....it just helps LU.

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LU will find a schedule of teams willing to go there. Teams that are having trouble scheduling. UMass found games, so will LU.

LOL

Based upon what? The only Alabama player they had on their roster last season was from Hoover.

Looking at their roster they recruit up and down the east coast with a noticeable amount of Texas talent and various players from elsewhere in the country.

Oh and Liberty is going to be getting some great advertising starting next Saturday. They are sponsoring a car for one of the top Xfinity Series teams in NASCAR, Jr Motorsports, driven by one of the hottest up and coming drivers William Byron.

(02-18-2017 03:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 02:50 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:20 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 10:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Looks like Liberty did better than the Sun Belt!

How is that?

Being independent and charting your own chart is superior to being part of the worst G4 directional conference.

Sun Belt.

Totally agree with you. I think many fans will be shocked at schools that played at Lynchburg in other D1 sports.

Just Men's Baseball since 2013.
WVU
Army
ODU
Penn State
Army
UVA
MD
Duke
Ball State
Kent State
Va Tech
UNC
ECU
UCONN
Kentucky

I doubt football will have an issue getting home games. Just from the list above ODU, Duke, Ball State, Kent State and Army H/H. Payday away games: Penn State, WVU, UNC, Va Tech, UVA, WVU, MD and ECU.

We will see who LU gets to come to Lynchburg. I suspect one Belt team (probably Troy or Ga Southern), NMSU, UMass, and a few others. If LU gets a good home get, LU will be paying for it in some way.

Here are a few other recent/future visitors to SBC schools. Miami (FL), Missouri, Boise State, Iowa State, North Carolina, NC State, Baylor, Houston, Texas Tech, Wake Forest, Kansas, Miss State, Memphis, San Diego State

Lets see who LU gets. My guess is that they'll get someone. But they won't get any rivals. Maybe a 4 year deal.

At least they have president that supports football. If I were a betting man, I would bet they will have more wins and success than UAB does in the next 5 years. One thing people keep forgetting, Liberty has money and are willing to spend it. Unlike some MAC, SB or CUSA schools that have budget issues. I see Liberty being becoming like BYU. Just my guess, in five years they will be making more money most SB, CUSA or MAC teams. It will be interesting to see if the get CFP Indy money like UMASS NMSU. Before just saying no, please post factual link with answer, I really don't know. Finally, before anyone brings political views, let me state my feelings would be the same if the school mission was atheist, satanist, communist, socialist or Muslim. I don!t think it should matter about their beliefs. If they can field a program, then they should be able too. Darn my Liberterian/Capitolist instincts.



http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca.../14299979/

We will never schedule them as long as that AD is there.

(02-18-2017 03:06 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:20 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 09:18 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 10:56 PM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  Looks like Liberty did better than the Sun Belt!

How is that?

Being independent and charting your own chart is superior to being part of the worst G4 directional conference.

Sun Belt.

#alternativefacts

Brilliant response.

I don't think Tulane will "refuse" to play Liberty but it's hard to imagine a scenario where Tulane plays *at* Liberty in football.

I appear to be in the minority as far as ODU fans go. But I hope we don't schedule them. Alot of fans say "hey it's a close game for travel purposes". But if you schedule a Liberty plus an FCS opponent your OOC schedule is trending towards suck.

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No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

(02-18-2017 05:21 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  I appear to be in the minority as far as ODU fans go. But I hope we don't schedule them. Alot of fans say "hey it's a close game for travel purposes". But if you schedule a Liberty plus an DC'S opponent your OOC schedule is trending towards suck.

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Our road games need to be big payout games. Probably why we scheduled Nebraska 4 times in 8 years LOL.

(02-18-2017 06:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

And that's why the question was football related. LU is such a lightning rod that when FBS teams play them, opposing fans are going to be so stoked. LU has the opportunity to be the most hated team in the US, once they win some FBS games and if the program can become credible.

(02-18-2017 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

And that's why the question was football related. LU is such a lightning rod that when FBS teams play them, opposing fans are going to be so stoked. LU has the opportunity to be the most hated team in the US, once they win some FBS games and if the program can become credible.

They have a long way to go to beat out TSISB for that title.

(02-18-2017 06:27 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

And that's why the question was football related. LU is such a lightning rod that when FBS teams play them, opposing fans are going to be so stoked. LU has the opportunity to be the most hated team in the US, once they win some FBS games and if the program can become credible.

They have a long way to go to beat out TSISB for that title.

I remember the "Convicts vs. Catholics" when Miami played ND. I was in SFL then and it was intense. When Miami had their national championships run, they were hated by everyone except their fans. It was a mindset the team embraced and used to it's advantage. LU already, with very limited FCS success and just getting a FBS waiver, already has stimulated anti interest. With some modest FBS success, LU could become the most despised team to lose to other than rival games.

(02-18-2017 06:34 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:27 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

And that's why the question was football related. LU is such a lightning rod that when FBS teams play them, opposing fans are going to be so stoked. LU has the opportunity to be the most hated team in the US, once they win some FBS games and if the program can become credible.

They have a long way to go to beat out TSISB for that title.

I remember the "Convicts vs. Catholics" when Miami played ND. I was in SFL then and it was intense. When Miami had their national championships run, they were hated by everyone except their fans. It was a mindset the team embraced and used to it's advantage. LU already, with very limited FCS success and just getting a FBS waiver, already has stimulated anti interest. With some modest FBS success, LU could become the most despised team to lose to other than rival games.

There's a difference between being controversial in a way that brings a community together and in a way that causes internal strife within a community. When "Da U" was playing other teams, it brought everyone on the other side together. The only time in my entire life I ever rooted for Alabama was when they played Miami in the National Championship back in the 90s. I'm afraid the impact of LU is to start internal disputes within the opposing team's community.

LU has its defenders across the country. But there are also those that feel that LU is targeting certain sectors. Since you likely have both those communities on just about every FBS campus, there's a bigger chance that people will just get mad at each other within those FBS communities.

(02-18-2017 06:40 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:34 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:27 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:19 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(02-18-2017 06:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  No. But that's not really relevance to their politics. It's more that GT already gets exposure in VA from UVA and VT. There's nothing to gain by playing Liberty.

And that's why the question was football related. LU is such a lightning rod that when FBS teams play them, opposing fans are going to be so stoked. LU has the opportunity to be the most hated team in the US, once they win some FBS games and if the program can become credible.

They have a long way to go to beat out TSISB for that title.

I remember the "Convicts vs. Catholics" when Miami played ND. I was in SFL then and it was intense. When Miami had their national championships run, they were hated by everyone except their fans. It was a mindset the team embraced and used to it's advantage. LU already, with very limited FCS success and just getting a FBS waiver, already has stimulated anti interest. With some modest FBS success, LU could become the most despised team to lose to other than rival games.

There's a difference between being controversial in a way that brings a community together and in a way that causes internal strife within a community. When "Da U" was playing other teams, it brought everyone on the other side together. I'm afraid the impact of LU is to start internal disputes within the opposing team's community.

Umm not true. I'm betting you've never attended a game a LU. And in recent past FBS and OOC FCS games LU has played (NC, WVU, Wake, JMU, AppSt, SMU, GaSt), there were not riots or demonstrations. As you and I have bantered and argued for years about this topic, your position is passionate and personal filled with points from your personal perspective, not shared by the masses. That does not make your points wrong, it's just not shared by most. I agree with many of your points as I too do not endorse or support many of the positions and actions of the admins. Let's just agree that we disagree and please refrain from bring up a personal talking point that has been discussed for the nth time. Remember this is a poll post.

(02-18-2017 09:14 AM)HarmonOliphantOberlanderDevine Wrote:  

(02-17-2017 11:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Seriously.....if you are a regional school you'll be cutting your own throat out of spite if you don't schedule them. Liberty fans travel. That equals tickets sold. That equals money in the bank.

I hope that the decisionmakers aren't stupid enough to listen to the SJWs who don't support athletics to begin with.

This.

It is amazing how the self-proclaimed most tolerant people are hating and wishing failure on Liberty.

Par for course.

Leaving this thread disappointed, because I was looking for some foamy mouthed displays of "tolerance" and "embracing of diverse opinions"...

If I said the universe was made of cheese I'm sure people would make fun of me even though that's a "diverse" opinion.

I said never but I really mean at least not the next 20 years because they don't fit the type of school that A&M plays. It's possible in 20 years they could be a solid upper tier G5 type team that might get scheduled. A&M really only plays schools from within Texas or neighboring states from the Sun Belt/C-USA type levels.

They have occasionally played a home game with a farther away team, but they've really started only playing more Texas/Louisiana/New Mexico teams since moving to the SEC. Playing more teams OOC from in and around Texas seems to be the goal now since we don't play any Texas teams in conference.

If Liberty is able become a more major player over the next couple of decades I see no reason why A&M wouldn't schedule them. Of course there's plenty of other major programs for A&M to schedule and a limited number of out of conference games so I really don't see them playing unless its a fluke bowl matchup.

I have nothing against Liberty University or it's mission. I say this is America the "land of the free". And if you ascribe to the Christian beliefs, by all means seek a Liberty education. No skin off my back. But as a fan of ODU this is how I would like to see a yearly OOC schedule unfold;

• A money game. Because all G-5 programs could use the cash. This is a one and done road game.
• An FCS home game. Because it gives you the best opportunity for a win to help with bowl eligibility.
• One and one schedule with a P-5 team. This brings excitement to the schedule and always ensures you have that P-5 home game.
• Or a one and one schedule with an AAC or MWC team.
  

If our goal is to eventually compete for the access bowl on a yearly basis, I honestly can't see Liberty being in the picture.

I'm not sure if Coastal will schedule them. One one hand, given our conference history and competitiveness I think we would. On the other hand, given past history and comments from our coach basically saying that he didn't think we'd ever play them as our FCS school and that he wouldn't really miss playing them. The situation is different now so I'm not sure if them being FBS changes things or not.

(02-20-2017 11:39 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  I'm not sure if Coastal will schedule them. One one hand, given our conference history and competitiveness I think we would. On the other hand, given past history and comments from our coach basically saying that he didn't think we'd ever play them as our FCS school and that he wouldn't really miss playing them. The situation is different now so I'm not sure if them being FBS changes things or not.

The real issue Coastal has is that you need some home games. You can give one away game in 2018 but need a home game in 2019. I suppose you could schedule a home and home with NMSU instead.

No matter how badly you guys don't want to play LU, if you need a game, you'll probably schedule them. You played with LU for years so it makes sense that your fans won't get too upset about it either.