Now BLM rolling out the crazy homeless guy's father who really misses his son... who he allowed to live on the streets and be crazy.

Come on.

(12-09-2024 11:42 AM)boss man Wrote:  Wow, threats issued after the jury completes their chore. Unreal and not very nice. The jurors did their civic duty.

Justice prevails.

Daniel Penny is there to protect them.

A civil rights investigation into the case even going to trial is still very appropriate

Good.

(12-09-2024 11:19 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  If you had a job you needed to pay bills or owned a small business or had young kids and you were required to show up for jury duty 7 weeks ago your opinion just might change.

These people are ready to be done.

I get that, but I'm not wired that way. Even if I were in that particular circumstance, I would hang in and figure it out. But you never really know until you're tested that strongly.

I didn't want to be there in my case. I had better things to do. I run a private website. But other than that, no pressure. I just know the jury duty tapped a strong sense of responsibility in me.

Some good news

(12-09-2024 11:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  WOW! wasn't expecting that...the guilty juror must have been the holdout and was ready to be done

Agree, but how can a holdout hang onto guilty on the greater charge, then cave on the lesser charge? If that was the case, why didn't the holdout just stand his/her ground, hang it, and be done that way, like the first charge? They weren't going to deliberate much longer, either way, I bet.

I'm glad it happened, but does that make any sense to anybody?

You feel so strongly about the greater charge that you hang the jury, but then on the reduced charge, you cave and vote not guilty. That makes zero sense, lol.

You could not have felt strongly about your first guilty vote, if you caved on the second lesser one. Weird. So why did you change the first one?

I suppose the urge to just get it over with won out. as others above said.

Time for Penny's lawyers to set up lawsuit against Thug's parents for every dollar they have just for filing a frivolous lawsuit against him.

(12-09-2024 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-09-2024 11:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  WOW! wasn't expecting that...the guilty juror must have been the holdout and was ready to be done

Agree, but how can a holdout hang onto guilty on the greater charge, then cave on the lesser charge? If that was the case, why didn't the holdout just stand his/her ground, hang it, and be done that way, like the first charge? They weren't going to deliberate much longer, either way, I bet.

I'm glad it happened, but does that make any sense to anybody?

You feel so strongly about the greater charge that you hang the jury, but then on the reduced charge, you cave and vote not guilty. That makes zero sense, lol.

You could not have felt strongly about your first guilty vote, if you caved on the second lesser one. Weird. So why did you change the first one?

I suppose the urge to just get it over with won out. as others above said.

I heard it was 6-6 on the first count. Whether that's true or not I have no idea. I read it in a comment section in an article.

(12-09-2024 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-09-2024 11:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  WOW! wasn't expecting that...the guilty juror must have been the holdout and was ready to be done

Agree, but how can a holdout hang onto guilty on the greater charge, then cave on the lesser charge? If that was the case, why didn't the holdout just stand his/her ground, hang it, and be done that way, like the first charge? They weren't going to deliberate much longer, either way, I bet.

I'm glad it happened, but does that make any sense to anybody?

You feel so strongly about the greater charge that you hang the jury, but then on the reduced charge, you cave and vote not guilty. That makes zero sense, lol.

You could not have felt strongly about your first guilty vote, if you caved on the second lesser one. Weird. So why did you change the first one?

I suppose the urge to just get it over with won out. as others above said.

100%

It makes no sense

Logical conclusion is that simply the guilty holdout just wanted to be done and didn't want to be at the mercy of a judge who could have held them there another week easy

Elvis

FAFO

So much winning

Outstanding news.

(12-09-2024 12:24 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(12-09-2024 12:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-09-2024 11:46 AM)solohawks Wrote:  WOW! wasn't expecting that...the guilty juror must have been the holdout and was ready to be done

Agree, but how can a holdout hang onto guilty on the greater charge, then cave on the lesser charge? If that was the case, why didn't the holdout just stand his/her ground, hang it, and be done that way, like the first charge? They weren't going to deliberate much longer, either way, I bet.

I'm glad it happened, but does that make any sense to anybody?

You feel so strongly about the greater charge that you hang the jury, but then on the reduced charge, you cave and vote not guilty. That makes zero sense, lol.

You could not have felt strongly about your first guilty vote, if you caved on the second lesser one. Weird. So why did you change the first one?

I suppose the urge to just get it over with won out. as others above said.

I heard it was 6-6 on the first count. Whether that's true or not I have no idea. I read it in a comment section in an article.

IF that is accurate (I highly doubt it), that would make this verdict totally insane.

(12-09-2024 12:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Elvis

FAFO

So much winning

Elvis and Tom keep wading into the fray and getting their heads bashed in, but you have to give them credit, for shaking it off and coming back for more.

(12-09-2024 12:32 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(12-09-2024 12:27 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Elvis

FAFO

So much winning

Elvis and Tom keep wading into the fray and getting their heads bashed in, but you have to give them credit, for shaking it off and coming back for more.

if'n 'they' only looked so yummy ...

Good for him.

Does he have a gofundme for legal fees or anything?

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(12-09-2024 12:36 PM)maximus Wrote:  Good for him.

Does he have a gofundme for legal fees or anything?

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Call it "Save a Penny"

With the benefit of hindsight the notes they sent back asking clarifying questions and wanting to rehear the ME testimony seem to indicate the not guilty's were trying to convince a holdout there wasn't any intenta and even the ME originally wasn't sure about the choke being the cause

(12-09-2024 12:36 PM)maximus Wrote:  Good for him.

Does he have a gofundme for legal fees or anything?

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Yes. It is already up over $3M.

(12-09-2024 12:42 PM)solohawks Wrote:  With the benefit of hindsight the notes they sent back asking clarifying questions and wanting to rehear the ME testimony seem to indicate the not guilty's were trying to convince a holdout there wasn't any intenta and even the ME originally wasn't sure about the choke being the cause

Similar to what Judge Janine said on The Five last week. In her case, it was foresight, lol. And she did base it on the clarifying questions.