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(09-04-2024 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-03-2024 04:31 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  There’s a reason Kamala is campaigning in typically safe
Dem states- NH, MN and VA

Something something Hillary something something Wisconsin something something Michigan something something Pennsylvania......

And as to the numbers in this "poll," I believe this is just a forecast of the percentages of chance to win calculated with respect to what this site feels will happen in the coming weeks...it's not actually direct polling of voters. IIRC, Harris still leads, albeit slightly, in most all the battleground state polls currently.

Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?
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(09-04-2024 09:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:48 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  It's obvious that the "momentum" has subsided. And the truth is nobody is leading, because nobody has voted. These are all projections. If you talk to too many independents in suburban areas, you will get a Harris lead, if you talk to more independents in rural areas, you get a Trump lead.

She will have to do more public interviews and then the debate, which she will have a ton of pressure to do well in.

And that likely is the biggest flaw in this prediction from what I read. It is factoring in that Harris didn't get as big of a convention bounce as candidates normally do so they assume she's not going to win. But her bounce was before the convention where she erased the lead trump had over Biden in most polling. And if you recall, I don't think trump got much of a bounce from his convention either.

But this call for more public interviews is overblown IMO. But I do agree, the debate is critical...assuming people even watch it.


The convention bounce was always overblown, even prior to 2024. This election cycle has not been your typical one. For one, a former president is the R candidate. The D candidate was chosen by party leadership with no primary.

An assassination attempt, then the current POTUS removing his name after securing the delegates needed is unprecedented. There’s no way to measure the effects of all of those events within 3 weeks of each other.

Bias aside, Harris needs to do more interviews explaining her policy positions in a clear manner. “My values have not changed” is not an answer and she shouldn’t get away with that.
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(09-04-2024 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-03-2024 04:31 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  There’s a reason Kamala is campaigning in typically safe
Dem states- NH, MN and VA

Something something Hillary something something Wisconsin something something Michigan something something Pennsylvania......

And as to the numbers in this "poll," I believe this is just a forecast of the percentages of chance to win calculated with respect to what this site feels will happen in the coming weeks...it's not actually direct polling of voters. IIRC, Harris still leads, albeit slightly, in most all the battleground state polls currently.

Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?

So you're putting party above country? Not going to hold your candidate's feet to the fire while demanding the other side to do the opposite?

The few good policies she has put out are copied from Trump, do you approve of that?
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Trafalgar released 3 new polls dated 8/31 - their first since RFK Jr & Tulsi jumped to team Trump.

Pennsylvania
Trump: 47.0%
Harris: 44.9%
Other: 2.7%
Undecided: 5.3%

(PA) Participants
Republican: 39.4%
Democrat:40.3%
Independent: 20.3%

Michigan
Trump: 47.0%
Harris: 46.6%
Other: 3.7%
Undecided: 2.7%

(MI) Participants
Republican: 31.5%
Democrat: 35.9%
Independent: 32.6%

Wisconsin
Trump: 47.3%
Harris: 46.2%
Other: 2.6%
Undecided: 3.8%

(WI) Participants
Republican:37.1%
Democrat: 35.6%
Independent: 27.3%
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(09-04-2024 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-03-2024 04:31 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  There’s a reason Kamala is campaigning in typically safe
Dem states- NH, MN and VA

Something something Hillary something something Wisconsin something something Michigan something something Pennsylvania......

And as to the numbers in this "poll," I believe this is just a forecast of the percentages of chance to win calculated with respect to what this site feels will happen in the coming weeks...it's not actually direct polling of voters. IIRC, Harris still leads, albeit slightly, in most all the battleground state polls currently.

Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?

So you're putting party above country? Not going to hold your candidate's feet to the fire while demanding the other side to do the opposite?

The few good policies she has put out are copied from Trump, do you approve of that?

Yeah, like the no tax on tips was trump's idea first? 03-lmfao Not to mention their plans aren't even the same. trumps applies to rich people bonuses.

And this is just for my purposes...I don't need her to do any interview with the worthless MSM. My vote will equally be a vote AGAINST trump. He must not be allowed in the Oval Office ever again. THAT is country over any party! ****, if RFK, Jr. or Stein or West, etc. was the leading contender to stop trump, I would vote for them.
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So you are voting for someone who wants to build a border wall?

Why the sudden change of heart?
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(09-04-2024 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Something something Hillary something something Wisconsin something something Michigan something something Pennsylvania......

And as to the numbers in this "poll," I believe this is just a forecast of the percentages of chance to win calculated with respect to what this site feels will happen in the coming weeks...it's not actually direct polling of voters. IIRC, Harris still leads, albeit slightly, in most all the battleground state polls currently.

Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?

So you're putting party above country? Not going to hold your candidate's feet to the fire while demanding the other side to do the opposite?

The few good policies she has put out are copied from Trump, do you approve of that?

Yeah, like the no tax on tips was trump's idea first? 03-lmfao Not to mention their plans aren't even the same. trumps applies to rich people bonuses.

And this is just for my purposes...I don't need her to do any interview with the worthless MSM. My vote will equally be a vote AGAINST trump. He must not be allowed in the Oval Office ever again. THAT is country over any party! ****, if RFK, Jr. or Stein or West, etc. was the leading contender to stop trump, I would vote for them.

Honestly. What exactly was so bad about Trumps first term? What rights did he take away? We've already heard Kamala go after the 1st and 2nd amendment. What part of the constitution did Trump go after? What part of Harris background do you see that makes you think she would be a good president? The one thing her and Trump have in common is they are both unlikable but policy wise Trump did much more to help the country than Biden/Harris.
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(09-04-2024 10:19 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  So you are voting for someone who wants to build a border wall?

Why the sudden change of heart?

No change, never once been opposed to a border wall. And we already have one that covers nearly all the feasible areas. trump hardly build any wall in new areas...and Mexico didn't pay a dime for it. It's not a simple solution as trump claimed it would be. That was my issue with him.

I've long been wanting Congress to get their **** together and pass a border bill. They had a decent one, but trump killed it for political purposes.
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(09-04-2024 10:23 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:05 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?

So you're putting party above country? Not going to hold your candidate's feet to the fire while demanding the other side to do the opposite?

The few good policies she has put out are copied from Trump, do you approve of that?

Yeah, like the no tax on tips was trump's idea first? 03-lmfao Not to mention their plans aren't even the same. trumps applies to rich people bonuses.

And this is just for my purposes...I don't need her to do any interview with the worthless MSM. My vote will equally be a vote AGAINST trump. He must not be allowed in the Oval Office ever again. THAT is country over any party! ****, if RFK, Jr. or Stein or West, etc. was the leading contender to stop trump, I would vote for them.

Honestly. What exactly was so bad about Trumps first term? What rights did he take away? We've already heard Kamala go after the 1st and 2nd amendment. What part of the constitution did Trump go after? What part of Harris background do you see that makes you think she would be a good president? The one thing her and Trump have in common is they are both unlikable but policy wise Trump did much more to help the country than Biden/Harris.

Trump mind-raped the left like they were E Jean Carroll.
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(09-04-2024 10:23 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What part of the constitution did Trump go after?

Article II, Sec. 1, 2nd clause.

Article II, Sec. 1, 3d clause.

In shitting on those -- maybe even Article II, Sec. 1, 8th clause.

Fourteenth Amendment, Sect. 1, equal protection clause
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(09-04-2024 09:57 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:51 AM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 09:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-03-2024 04:31 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  There’s a reason Kamala is campaigning in typically safe
Dem states- NH, MN and VA

Something something Hillary something something Wisconsin something something Michigan something something Pennsylvania......

And as to the numbers in this "poll," I believe this is just a forecast of the percentages of chance to win calculated with respect to what this site feels will happen in the coming weeks...it's not actually direct polling of voters. IIRC, Harris still leads, albeit slightly, in most all the battleground state polls currently.

Is the policy page of her campaign sight still a blank page?

Not a clue. Don't care. But enough people seem to be talking about her policies and how bad they'll supposedly be, so she must have put forth something publicly, right?

There's been leaks, apparently. The whole "tax unrealized capital gains" thing is all over the net, and for good reason, it's an absolutely terrible idea. No idea if there is any validity to it as she hasn't released any formal policy statements.
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(09-04-2024 10:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:19 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  So you are voting for someone who wants to build a border wall?

Why the sudden change of heart?

No change, never once been opposed to a border wall. And we already have one that covers nearly all the feasible areas. trump hardly build any wall in new areas...and Mexico didn't pay a dime for it. It's not a simple solution as trump claimed it would be. That was my issue with him.

I've long been wanting Congress to get their **** together and pass a border bill. They had a decent one, but trump killed it for political purposes.


Trump hardly built the wall because the Democrats and RINOs wouldn’t pass it. There’s nothing he could do legally except for move some funds around from other projects.

He clearly was wrong that Mexico would pay for it. Agree there. Never even believed they would to begin with. He tried to backtrack by saying that Mexico keeping their citizens in would “them paying for it,” but obviously not the same as them sending us money.

The bill you cited was not a standalone border bill. The vast majority of the money was going to Ukraine and their border, which is funny somehow we have the money for them, but didn’t have enough to fund our own wall years ago.
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Depends on what day of the week for flip flopping Kamala’s policies. Heck, maybe even the time of day. She is a clueless drunk bimbo
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(09-04-2024 10:28 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:23 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What part of the constitution did Trump go after?

Article II, Sec. 1, 2nd clause.

Article II, Sec. 1, 3d clause.

In shitting on those -- maybe even Article II, Sec. 1, 8th clause.

Fourteenth Amendment, Sect. 1, equal protection clause

I would agree that the argument could be made that he violated those although I would suggest that the 14th has been pushed around by several politicians.

What individual rights did he go after?
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(09-04-2024 10:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The whole "tax unrealized capital gains" thing is all over the net, and for good reason, it's an absolutely terrible idea.

03-lol This tax law is not understood one iota by Joe Q. Public. It will have next to no effect on nearly all the population. The amount of complete nonsense I've seen on this on social media has been mind numbing. What you've been reading is mostly like right-wing disinformation.

Here's a decent explainer.
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/23/kamala-...-gains-tax

And regardless, there's next to no way this would ever see her desk.
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(09-04-2024 10:45 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:28 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:23 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What part of the constitution did Trump go after?

Article II, Sec. 1, 2nd clause.

Article II, Sec. 1, 3d clause.

In shitting on those -- maybe even Article II, Sec. 1, 8th clause.

Fourteenth Amendment, Sect. 1, equal protection clause

I would agree that the argument could be made that he violated those although I would suggest that the 14th has been pushed around by several politicians.

What individual rights did he go after?

trump didn't have to go after and/or take away your individual rights to be a horrible president.
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(09-04-2024 10:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The whole "tax unrealized capital gains" thing is all over the net, and for good reason, it's an absolutely terrible idea.

03-lol This tax law is not understood one iota by Joe Q. Public. It will have next to no effect on nearly all the population. The amount of complete nonsense I've seen on this on social media has been mind numbing. What you've been reading is mostly like right-wing disinformation.

Here's a decent explainer.
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/23/kamala-...-gains-tax

And regardless, there's next to no way this would ever see her desk.

There's confusion because she actually hasn't sat down and explained her plan in detail on TV/radio/whatever. She's completely reliant on left wing media sources to explain it for her. Lmao.
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(09-04-2024 10:55 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:45 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:28 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:23 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  What part of the constitution did Trump go after?

Article II, Sec. 1, 2nd clause.

Article II, Sec. 1, 3d clause.

In shitting on those -- maybe even Article II, Sec. 1, 8th clause.

Fourteenth Amendment, Sect. 1, equal protection clause

I would agree that the argument could be made that he violated those although I would suggest that the 14th has been pushed around by several politicians.

What individual rights did he go after?

trump didn't have to go after and/or take away your individual rights to be a horrible president.

He pretty much went after the rights to vote of the people in GA, AZ, NV, NM, PA, WI, and MI when he tried to short circuit those state electoral slates by saying -- Hey Mikey, just throw those slates away and replace them with mine.

I would consider the right to vote, and the right to have my vote count, a pretty basic individual right.
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(09-04-2024 10:56 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-04-2024 10:30 AM)VA49er Wrote:  The whole "tax unrealized capital gains" thing is all over the net, and for good reason, it's an absolutely terrible idea.

03-lol This tax law is not understood one iota by Joe Q. Public. It will have next to no effect on nearly all the population. The amount of complete nonsense I've seen on this on social media has been mind numbing. What you've been reading is mostly like right-wing disinformation.

Here's a decent explainer.
https://www.axios.com/2024/08/23/kamala-...-gains-tax

And regardless, there's next to no way this would ever see her desk.

There's confusion because she actually hasn't sat down and explained her plan in detail on TV/radio/whatever. She's completely reliant on left wing media sources to explain it for her. Lmao.

You're clueless on how to run a campaign. What on earth would be served by sitting down and explaining a complicated tax policy to the media who doesn't understand it for a public who understands it even less?

Still waiting for trumps detailed plan ON ******* ANYTHING!!!!!

Deporting illegals.
Iron Dome.
Cutting Energy Costs in Half.
Health Care Plan
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