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Could Florida return as King of the Swing States?
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RE: Could Florida return as King of the Swing States?
(08-14-2024 09:55 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  This poll finds Trump only leading by 3 in his adopted home state -

https://www.faupolling.com/august142024/



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Harris does not need Florida to win. Trump going to have a real hard time if he doesn’t
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RE: Could Florida return as King of the Swing States?
(08-14-2024 10:34 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  
(08-14-2024 09:59 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(08-14-2024 09:55 AM)Gamenole Wrote:  This poll finds Trump only leading by 3 in his adopted home state -

https://www.faupolling.com/august142024/

Polls had Trump losing FL by 3points the last week of October 2020. Add 4 points to Trump's side on EVERY poll you see. That is the minimum he overperforms them.

Could be the same, could be different this time. By all means please fight the last war while we prepare for this one. Florida has added 706,597 people since 2020, and Trump won the state in 2020 by 371,686 votes.

https://www.news-journalonline.com/story...766600007/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Unite...in_Florida
They're more than likely from NY, NJ, NE... and fed up with their home states bull****. Good luck.

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RE: Could Florida return as King of the Swing States?
(08-13-2024 02:48 PM)Gamenole Wrote:  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...770114007/

Interesting new poll out of Florida, which could reshape the electoral map if the Sunshine State is truly ready to regain its status as the most important swing state of all. Even if Trump prevails in November, a closer election may have important downballot implications for the Scott vs. Murcasel-Powell Senate race and multiple House races.

Here's the difference between why Florida is less likely to become a swing state than Texas. (yes I could see Texas becoming a swing state sooner).

When New Yorkers move to Florida.. they move to get AWAY from Liberal Policies, typically. They tend to NOT try to bring their policies with them, they've learned how bad Communism is.

When Californians move to the liberal enclaves in Texas, they try to bring their even-more liberal policies with them, because typically they're moving to try to get BACk with the company that left California to go to Texas, because they haven't learned how bad Communism is.. they just think it needs to be refined to work still.

This is why for instance why Colorado went from a regularly red state to Blue. Californians moved there, and as there were no liberal "enclaves" in which to hide (except maybe Aspen, remember denver used to be a moderate red city), they moved out into the smaller public and changed more, faster.

Thankfully Texas still has a larger population of conservatives, so liberals still have larger numbers to make their liberal enclaves LARGER than the general population. Which will take longer, but communists are okay with the "long game".

Why do you think Democratic mayors made their cities Sanctuary cities? Not because they wanted to help.. . They want enough numbers to "engulf" the rest of their state (aka, Illinois.. you've got Chicago and one other liberal enclave, but that's enough to make the entire state a Democratic state)

But back to the original point. will there be outlier years in Florida? Yep, I can see an occasional Democrat win for Florida, but I don't think it's as often as pollsters say.
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RE: Could Florida return as King of the Swing States?
(08-15-2024 06:29 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Harris does not need Florida to win. Trump going to have a real hard time if he doesn’t

Trump doesnt need NY to win.

Harris does.
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(08-15-2024 06:29 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Harris does not need Florida to win. Trump going to have a real hard time if he doesn’t

If Harris doesn't win Pennsylvania, it's over. Trump is up in Nevada and Georgia and is within the margin of error or ahead in Michigan currently. And that DOESN'T take into account the Trump over-performing by 4+ points in ALL of the polls during his previous two elections.
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(08-16-2024 11:10 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(08-15-2024 06:29 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Harris does not need Florida to win. Trump going to have a real hard time if he doesn’t

If Harris doesn't win Pennsylvania, it's over. Trump is up in Nevada and Georgia and is within the margin of error or ahead in Michigan currently. And that DOESN'T take into account the Trump over-performing by 4+ points in ALL of the polls during his previous two elections.

Nevada has looked gone for the dems this cycle for a while now. The governor flipped republican the last cycle and dems won the senate seat by 1/2 a point.

Biden*/Harris has been horrible for them and decimated the service industry. The fact that Harris was the deciding vote to tax their tips is going to hurt.
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(08-16-2024 11:32 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 11:10 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(08-15-2024 06:29 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  Harris does not need Florida to win. Trump going to have a real hard time if he doesn’t

If Harris doesn't win Pennsylvania, it's over. Trump is up in Nevada and Georgia and is within the margin of error or ahead in Michigan currently. And that DOESN'T take into account the Trump over-performing by 4+ points in ALL of the polls during his previous two elections.

Nevada has looked gone for the dems this cycle for a while now. The governor flipped republican the last cycle and dems won the senate seat by 1/2 a point.

Biden*/Harris has been horrible for them and decimated the service industry. The fact that Harris was the deciding vote to tax their tips is going to hurt.

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more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.

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No, Florida won't be a swing state anytime soon.
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(08-16-2024 12:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.


No biggie for the Dems. If the polls are bad in a few weeks, they can get rid of Kamala and bring in someone else. Because Democracy!
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(08-16-2024 12:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.


Yeah, Harris didn't even get the natural bump in polling after here VP selection. Been following swing state polls since she's gotten the nod and her honeymoon period didn't amount to shyt. Her next chance to get a bump in polling is the convention. I see her campaign being a massive swing and miss unless there's some shake up with her team. She has a limited path to victory and if she doesn't win PA, it's game over.
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(08-16-2024 12:31 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 12:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.


No biggie for the Dems. If the polls are bad in a few weeks, they can get rid of Kamala and bring in someone else. Because Democracy!

I fully expect this to happen.
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(08-16-2024 12:36 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 12:31 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 12:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.


No biggie for the Dems. If the polls are bad in a few weeks, they can get rid of Kamala and bring in someone else. Because Democracy!

I fully expect this to happen.

Why not? Sock puppets have hydras. And all of them are just figureheads for the same agenda.
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She's the only person who can be nominated.
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(08-16-2024 12:36 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 12:31 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  
(08-16-2024 12:23 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  more bad polling news for Harris breaking. Emerson showed Harris +4 nationally (clearly wrong) but shows Trump +1 and +2 with leans in PA.


No biggie for the Dems. If the polls are bad in a few weeks, they can get rid of Kamala and bring in someone else. Because Democracy!

I fully expect this to happen.

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(08-16-2024 12:40 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  She's the only person who can be nominated.

you sure about that if they open the CONvenShunned ... we'll see shortly, Ja?!
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It's already done.
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Not only is it done, if she were to be removed then I'm pretty sure the money that Biden had collected would have to be refunded. It is too late in the game for them to go back and raise enough money to compete.
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seriously ... you guys really think the DNC gives two fks about rules and law ...... ummmmmmmmmmmkay....

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