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RE: Tim Walz Stolen Valor
(08-06-2024 12:22 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 12:08 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  The stolen valor thing (in this case) doesn't move the needle for me.

The fact that the dude wants to take 12 year olds from parents if they want gender surgery and tampons in boys bathrooms is MUCH more disturbing.

^^^this is more disturbing.

I don't think Stolen Valor applies here as he was a veteran. Most stolen valor cases are people that have never served but like to make themselves look like high ranked enlisted or officer grade of all affiliations.

Completely agree with the both of you. Although I care much less about the tampons... to each their own. Telling me I have to put my child on hormones to change their sex is complete BS, however. That is the kind of thing that causes a parent to come in and shoot up the doctors and teachers/administrators pushing this on a child.
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(08-06-2024 12:20 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 12:06 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 11:59 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:32 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  [quote='Mr_XcentricK' pid='19684491' dateline='1722958149']
He served for over 20 years but he “failed his country” because he left a National Guard unit before his enlistment was up? Guard enlistments are not like active military enlistments, they are more like private sector jobs and you can leave when your circumstances change.

And it was just coincidence that he retired just before his unit deployed.

No it mostly likely had a lot to do with it. Have you heard of units being deployed past their initial orders? So it is possible if he had deployed he could have been deployed past his enlistment date. Bottom line is retirement is available after 20 years. A lot changes over a 20 year career. Typically more to lose. Walz was like Murtaugh in Leathal Weapon. “Getting too old for this ****”

Speaks volumes about his character or lack there of.

But President Bone Spurs is okay? I can not disrespect Vance’s 4 years of service but he is not universally liked either…

JD Vance represents veterans on ballot, but some ask, ‘At what cost?’
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I don't recall Trump boasting of a rank he wasn't awarded. This guys a turd. As others have pointed out his service isn't as concerning as some of the other views he holds.
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Quote:Tim Walz has embellished and selectively omitted facts and circumstances of his military career for years.

We, retired Command Sergeants Major of the Minnesota National Guard, feel it is our duty and responsibility to bring forth the truth as we know it concerning his service record. So, we have put together a timeline of his service post 9/11. To the best of our knowledge, this information is completely true, having been verified by all those who served in positions with first hand knowledge of the facts and circumstances of his service and departure from the Minnesota National Guard. Many of the dates and time frames are from his official discharge document and the reduction order reducing him to Master Sergeant.

On September 18th, 2001 Tim Walz reenlisted in the Minnesota Army National Guard for six years.

In early 2003 he was selected to attend the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. The non-resident course consists of two years of correspondence coursework, followed by a two-week resident phase at Fort Bliss, Texas. When a Senior Non-Commissioned Officer accepts enrollment in the course, they accept three stipulations. First, they will serve for two years after graduation from the academy, or promotion to Sergeant Major or Command Sergeant Major, whichever is later. Second, if they fail the course they may be separated from the military. Third, they will complete the course or be reduced to Master Sergeant without board action. Senior Non-Commissioned Officers initial and sign a Statement of Agreement and Certification upon enrollment. The State Command Sergeant Major or Army National Guard Command Sergeant Major counsels the soldier and certifies that the senior Non-Commissioned Officer understands their responsibilities. These stipulations are put in place because the academy is a college level school, the military invests a lot of taxpayer money in the student. The military needs to ensure they will get the return on investment that the taxpayers deserve.

In late summer of 2003, First Sergeant Walz deployed with the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion in support of Operation Enduring Freedom to Italy. The mission was to augment United States Air Force Europe Security Forces doing base security for six months. In no way were the units or Soldiers of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion replacing any units or military forces so they could deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan.

After the units return to Minnesota in the spring of 2004, he was selected by high level Command Sergeants Major to serve in the position of the Command Sergeant Major of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion.

On August 5th, 2004 he was photographed holding a sign at a protest outside a President Bush campaign rally in southern Minnesota.

On September 17th, 2004 he was conditionally promoted to Command Sergeant Major. The conditions had been outlined to him when he was counseled and he signed the Statement of Agreement and Certification. If the conditions are not met, the promotion is null and void, like it never happened.

In early 2005, a warning order was issued to the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, which included the position he was serving in, to prepare to be mobilized for active duty for a deployment to Iraq.

On May 16th, 2005 he quit, leaving the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion and its Soldiers hanging; without its senior Non-Commissioned Officer, as the battalion prepared for war. His excuse to other leaders was that he needed to retire in order to run for congress. Which is false, according to a Department of Defense Directive, he could have run and requested permission from the Secretary of Defense before entering active duty; as many reservists have. If he had retired normally and respectfully, you would think he would have ensured his retirement documents were correctly filled out and signed, and that he would have ensured he was reduced to Master Sergeant for dropping out of the academy. Instead he waited for the paperwork to catch up to him. His official retirement document states, SOLDIER NOT AVAILABLE FOR SIGNATURE.

On September 10th, 2005 conditionally promoted Command Sergeant Major Walz was reduced to Master Sergeant. It took a while for the system to catch up to him as it was uncharted territory, literally no one quits in the position he was in, or drops out of the academy. Except him.

In November of 2005, while the battalion trained for war at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, it received an offer from retired Master Sergeant Walz. He offered to fund raise for the battalions bus trip home over Christmas that year.

The 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion was deployed for 22 months in 2006 - 2007. During this time, they were restricted by Army regulations and could not speak out against a candidate for office. In November 2006 he was elected to the House of Representatives. He claims to be the highest-ranking enlisted service member ever to serve in congress. Even though he was conditionally promoted to Command Sergeant Major less than eight months, quit before his obligations were met, and was reduced to Master Sergeant for retirement. Yes, he served at that rank, but was never qualified at that rank, and will receive retirement benefits at one rank below. You be the judge.

On November 1st, 2006, Tom Hagen, Iraq War Veteran, wrote a letter to the editor of the Winona Daily News. Here are a couple of sentences from the letter: But even more disturbing is the fact that Walz quickly retired after learning that his unit -southern Minnesota's 1-125 FA Battalion - would be sent to Iraq. For Tim Walz to abandon his fellow soldiers and quit when they needed experienced leadership most is disheartening.

Here is part of Tim Walzs response: After completing 20 years of service in 2001, I re-enlisted to serve our country for an additional four years following Sept. 11 and retired the year before my battalion was deployed to Iraq in order to run for Congress.

According to his official Report of Separation and Record of Service, he re-enlisted for six years on September 18th, 2001. However, in his response he says that he re-enlisted for four years, conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq. Even if he had re-enlisted for four years following Sept.11, his retirement date would have been September 18th, 2005. Why then did he "retire" on May 16th, 2005, before his supposed four-year enlistment was up? And he makes it sound like he "retired" a year before his battalion deployed to Iraq; when in reality he knew when he "retired" that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.

The bottom line in all of this is gut wrenching and sad to explain. When the nation called, he quit. He failed to complete the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. He failed to serve for two years following completion of the academy, which he dropped out of. He failed to serve two years after the conditional promotion to Command Sergeant Major. He failed to fulfill the full six years of the enlistment he signed on September 18th, 2001. He failed his country. He failed his state. He failed the Minnesota Army National Guard, the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion, and his fellow Soldiers. And he failed to lead by example. Shameful.

Thomas Behrends

Command Sergeant Major (Retired)

Paul Herr

Command Sergeant Major (Retired)

Wow. What a wormy wessel POS.

Disgusting
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(08-06-2024 10:23 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:11 AM)b2b Wrote:  What difference does it make when it was written?

An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

If he was literally John Rambo you wouldn't vote for Copmala, so how much it matters to you means less than nothing. If this were true there would be another source somewhere besides a paid endorsement letter, and if this were true it would have sunk him in what is absolutely not a super blue state. You want it to be true, you'll pretend it's true and look for zero proof that wasn't paid to be put there, because you are a retard.

Typical response. How would you know how ANY vet feels?

Oh, and he is fine with taking kids from their parents for gender surgery, and Minnesota willingly elected him anyway. Maybe you should move there.
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UPDATED: MN Gov. Tim Walz Accused of Cowardice and Embellishment of Army Service Record by Former Peers


Quote:Vice President Kamala Harris' running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, is being accused of cowardice and lying about his service record while he was serving in the Minnesota National Guard before his time as governor. In a letter to the editor of the West Central Tribune dated November 2, 2018, retired Command Sergeants Major Thomas Behrends and Paul Herr alleged that Walz lied or embellished his service record and shirked his duty as the senior enlisted leader of a Minnesota National Guard unit as it was about to be deployed to Iraq in 2005.

We, retired Command Sergeants Major of the Minnesota National Guard, feel it is our duty and responsibility to bring forth the truth as we know it concerning his service record. So, we have put together a timeline of his service post 9/11. To the best of our knowledge, this information is completely true, having been verified by all those who served in positions with first hand knowledge of the facts and circumstances of his service and departure from the Minnesota National Guard. Many of the dates and time frames are from his official discharge document and the reduction order reducing him to Master Sergeant.

Governor Walz enlisted in the Minnesota National Guard in 1981 and served for 24 years, obtaining the rank of Sergeant Major. However, he was reduced in rank to Master Sergeant in September 2005 after failing to complete the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy. But that is just the end of his military career; according to Herr and Behrends, Tim Walz did other shameful things, and something far worse -- he abandoned his troops when they went to Iraq.

In September 2001, then First Sergeant Walz reenlisted in the Minnesota National Guard for six years and was selected to attend the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy (USASMA) in early 2003. Attending this course is mandatory for all senior enlisted members who intend to earn the promotion to the rank of Sergeant Major. The course consists of two years of correspondence coursework, followed by a two-week in-person phase at Fort Bliss, Texas. When a senior enlisted member accepts the invitation to the school, they agree to several stipulations, which include the possibility of being separated from the service if a person fails the course or that any failure to attend the course will result in an automatic reduction in rank to Master Sergeant. All participants must sign an agreement upon enrollment that they agree and abide by these stipulations. The USASMA is a college-level course and is funded by taxpayer money, so the military needs to ensure that the taxpayer gets a return on their investment.

In the summer of 2003, Walz deployed with the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion in support of Operation Enduring Freedom to Italy. The unit's mission was to augment the security forces of the United States Air Force Europe and take over responsibility for airbase security. However, the battalion did not replace any American unit or forces so they could deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan. After returning to Minnesota from that deployment in the spring of 2004, Walz was appointed to serve in the position of the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion Command Sergeant Major; however, he was not promoted to that rank. It is common for service members, especially in the Army and Marine Corps, to serve in positions of command without the associating rank. It is done either as a way to fill gaps until another member with the rank can assume the position or that individual will soon be promoted to the rank associated with the position.

Even after being seen and photographed holding a sign at a protest outside of a President George W. Bush campaign rally in southern Minnesota in August 2004, Walz was selected to serve as the battalion's Command Sergeant Major.



On September 17th, 2004, Walz was conditionally promoted, or frocked, to Command Sergeant Major. When a service member is conditionally promoted or frocked, it means that while they rate the title of Command Sergeant Major and could wear that rank, they are not entitled to the pay yet. When Walz was given that promotion, he signed and initialed the Statement of Agreement and Certification for the USASMA, which meant that if Walz failed to comply with the conditions, his promotion would be null and void as if it never happened.

When Walz and his battalion received warning orders that he, along with the battalion, would need to prepare for activation and mobilization for deployment to Iraq in early 2005, Walz committed the ultimate sin. He quit on his soldiers.

On May 16th, 2005 he quit, leaving the 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion and its Soldiers hanging; without its senior Non-Commissioned Officer, as the battalion prepared for war. His excuse to other leaders was that he needed to retire in order to run for congress. Which is false, according to a Department of Defense Directive, he could have run and requested permission from the Secretary of Defense before entering active duty; as many reservists have. If he had retired normally and respectfully, you would think he would have ensured his retirement documents were correctly filled out and signed, and that he would have ensured he was reduced to Master Sergeant for dropping out of the academy. Instead he waited for the paperwork to catch up to him. His official retirement document states, SOLDIER NOT AVAILABLE FOR SIGNATURE.

On September 10th, Tim Walz was demoted and reduced in rank to Master Sergeant. He abandoned and walked away from his soldiers and his solemn responsibility to lead and take care of them. According to Behrends and Herr, Walz is hiding that part of the information from the public in an attempt to fool the electorate.

The 1-125th Field Artillery Battalion was deployed for 22 months in 2006 - 2007. During this time, they were restricted by Army regulations and could not speak out against a candidate for office. In November 2006 he was elected to the House of Representatives. He claims to be the highest-ranking enlisted service member ever to serve in congress. Even though he was conditionally promoted to Command Sergeant Major less than eight months, quit before his obligations were met, and was reduced to Master Sergeant for retirement. Yes, he served at that rank, but was never qualified at that rank, and will receive retirement benefits at one rank below.

In response to another letter to the editor of the West Central Tribune in 2006, Walz falsely claimed that he reenlisted for FOUR years and not six, and claimed he retired "before his battalion was deployed to Iraq" to run for Congress.

According to his official Report of Separation and Record of Service, he re-enlisted for six years on September 18th, 2001. However, in his response he says that he re-enlisted for four years, conveniently retiring a year before his battalion was deployed to Iraq. Even if he had re-enlisted for four years following Sept.11, his retirement date would have been September 18th, 2005. Why then did he "retire" on May 16th, 2005, before his supposed four-year enlistment was up? And he makes it sound like he "retired" a year before his battalion deployed to Iraq; when in reality he knew when he "retired" that the battalion would be deployed to Iraq.

Another retired Command Sergeant Major corroborated the stories of Behrends and Herr. CSM (Ret) Douglas L. Julin was the 34th Infantry Division Command Sergeant Major and met with Walz, along with five other battalion CSM's, in early 2005 before they deployed to Iraq. According to Julin, Walz said he would be deploying with his battalion, even after mentioning that he was going to run for Congress.

“I’m going forward,” Julin recalls Walz saying. “Then out of nowhere in June of 2005, Tom Behrends is there as the new CSM.” Julin said he was most upset with how it was handled because Walz didn’t come to him as brigade command sergeant major, the position he held at the time. “He went around my authority to get out of the position. I probably would have told him ‘No, you’re going on the deployment,’” Julin said.

RedState has reached out to Governor Walz for comment; however, we did not receive a reply prior to the publication of this article.

UPDATED 2:20 PM 8/6/24:

The Twitter account "Stolen Valor" has published Walz's discharge document and additional information. In a thread, they write:

I am currently being flooded with questions about Tim Walz's true retired rank and whether he was demoted from CSM. I have obtained his NGB22, which indicates his retired rank as CSM. To confirm the accuracy of this information, I am waiting for his complete OMPF and DD214s to ascertain if there were any changes to his rank after retirement. It is possible he was demoted after retirement if he didn’t complete the required training , but his NGB22 that I have on hand does not indicate that. If he was demoted there will be an order in his OMPF indicating the reduction in rank. The article that has been circulating is labeled as a 'Paid Endorsement,' so I cannot rely on it as a source of facts. I will provide more details once I have gathered all the necessary information and paperwork.

I received a partial follow up on the NGB22. After the NGB22 was issued, he was “Administratively” reduced for not completing the required educational requirements. So he did hold the rank of CSM, but was subsequently reduced for this reason and receives retired pay for the rank of MSG. There were no disciplinary reasons for the reduction. According to the PAO for the Minnesota National Guard, they said it is legitimate for Walz to say he served as a CSM. They said the rank changed because Walz retired before completing coursework at the U.S. Army Sergeants Major Academy along with other requirements associated with his promotion.As far as deployments, I am awaiting more records but it doesn’t seem he deployed to a combat zone during his service. Will follow up when I have more information.


Here is the document.

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(08-06-2024 10:23 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  If he was literally John Rambo you wouldn't vote for Copmala, so how much it matters to you means less than nothing. If this were true there would be another source somewhere besides a paid endorsement letter, and if this were true it would have sunk him in what is absolutely not a super blue state. You want it to be true, you'll pretend it's true and look for zero proof that wasn't paid to be put there, because you are a retard.

While I agree with your assessment that Minnesota isn’t a real blue state, particularly in its Senate and House representation, it has been predictably blue in presidential races since 1972 when it elected Nixon.
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I think the real stolen valor is he claims a state football championship in his time as coach. C'mon, its Minnesota.
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Something, something, something. BONE SPURS LOLOLOLLOL. Y’all are in desperate mode! Even Trump begging Biden to come back into the race on fake Twitter.
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(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:11 AM)b2b Wrote:  What difference does it make when it was written?

An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

Does it matter that Trump’s daddy got a doctor to fake bone spurs?
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[quote='warhawk09' pid='19685270' dateline='1722997381']
Something, something, something. BONE SPURS LOLOLOLLOL. Y’all are in desperate mode! Even Trump begging Biden to come back into the race on fake.

Were you ever in the military? I have a friend who calls him that too, you aren't him are you. By the way, he never joined the military but he thinks it's kosher to criticize Trump for something he parroted.
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(08-06-2024 10:24 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  [quote='warhawk09' pid='19685270' dateline='1722997381']
Something, something, something. BONE SPURS LOLOLOLLOL. Y’all are in desperate mode! Even Trump begging Biden to come back into the race on fake.

Were you ever in the military? I have a friend who calls him that too, you aren't him are you. By the way, he never joined the military but he thinks it's kosher to criticize Trump for something he parroted.

I did but that is beside the point. Trump is still President bone spurs who used his Daddy’s money and influence to get out of stuff. He has no clue what most go through.
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(08-06-2024 09:24 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:11 AM)b2b Wrote:  What difference does it make when it was written?

An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

Does it matter that Trump’s daddy got a doctor to fake bone spurs?

Does it matter that Biden never even was in the military either but yet he's your hero. Biden is at the age where the draft would be after his butt too. No one mentions how he got out of serving.

...and now the truth comes out that Walz was a bonafide coward for opting out of the NG in order not to serve in Iraq. How come your Liberal messy media not publicize this.

See, sometimes it just pays to keep your mouth shut or in this case your fingers from posting.

It seems that you commies work like tag teams. One leaves and another comes in.
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(08-06-2024 10:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 09:24 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:11 AM)b2b Wrote:  What difference does it make when it was written?

An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

Does it matter that Trump’s daddy got a doctor to fake bone spurs?

Does it matter that Biden never even was in the military either but yet he's your hero. Biden is at the age where the draft would be after his butt too. No one mentions how he got out of serving.

...and now the truth comes out that Walz was a bonafide coward for opting out of the NG in order not to serve in Iraq. How come your Liberal messy media not publicize this.

See, sometimes it just pays to keep your mouth shut or in this case your fingers from posting.

It seems that you commies work like tag teams. One leaves and another comes in.
How did he get out of serving?

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(08-06-2024 12:31 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I don't recall Trump boasting of a rank he wasn't awarded.

From what I read and heard, he was indeed promoted and attained that rank, which I think is an E9. He was however changed back to an E8 because he did not complete a required course before he retired.
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(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:11 AM)b2b Wrote:  What difference does it make when it was written?

An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

Does it matter that Trump’s daddy got a doctor to fake bone spurs?

Does it matter that Biden never even was in the military either but yet he's your hero. Biden is at the age where the draft would be after his butt too. No one mentions how he got out of serving.

...and now the truth comes out that Walz was a bonafide coward for opting out of the NG in order not to serve in Iraq. How come your Liberal messy media not publicize this.

See, sometimes it just pays to keep your mouth shut or in this case your fingers from posting.

It seems that you commies work like tag teams. One leaves and another comes in.

Holy putting words in my mouth, but typical for your base. Find me some stories as to why he didn’t serve, would love FACTS! His family has military service history, Trump’s has military dodging history.
08-07-2024 10:06 AM
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RE: Tim Walz Stolen Valor
(08-06-2024 11:06 PM)fsquid Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:48 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 09:24 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:18 AM)TripleA Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 10:15 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  An 8 year old paid endorsement letter to the editor, and the guy managed to somehow win 2 elections after that. My quick googling produces literally zero other than this one paid endorsement letter, something tells me this is a massive nothing burger since they literally paid to have this printed.

Minnesota isn't the only state voting for him now. I'm a vet and it matters to me.

Does it matter that Trump’s daddy got a doctor to fake bone spurs?

Does it matter that Biden never even was in the military either but yet he's your hero. Biden is at the age where the draft would be after his butt too. No one mentions how he got out of serving.

...and now the truth comes out that Walz was a bonafide coward for opting out of the NG in order not to serve in Iraq. How come your Liberal messy media not publicize this.

See, sometimes it just pays to keep your mouth shut or in this case your fingers from posting.

It seems that you commies work like tag teams. One leaves and another comes in.
How did he get out of serving?

He retired to run for office after serving well past the minimum years to be able to do so. Did he do that just to avoid deploying after 20+ years of service...maybe. A couple guys in his unit were chapped...others weren't.
08-07-2024 10:07 AM
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RE: Tim Walz Stolen Valor
(08-07-2024 10:04 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(08-06-2024 12:31 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  I don't recall Trump boasting of a rank he wasn't awarded.

From what I read and heard, he was indeed promoted and attained that rank, which I think is an E9. He was however changed back to an E8 because he did not complete a required course before he retired.

Don’t let facts get in the way of a good story; it’s funny that this story is six years old, had no legs when it first came out as a paid editorial but hey MAGA says so, so it must be true. lol. Y’all just weird.
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