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RE: Pick Is In ... Field Set
(08-06-2024 09:56 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:21 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Not sure why you guys keep believing that ANYBODY votes for a vice president.
A VP won't will you the election but you can lose one with it.
See Sarah Palin.
McCain was losing that election to Obama even if Sarah Palin had never been born.
And, honestly, I think he got more votes with her than he would have gotten without her.
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RE: Pick Is In ... Field Set
(08-06-2024 09:19 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Single women are the base of the democrat party. They’re not coming back. Married women still vote Republican.
According to Pew, it is about 50/50 in terms of married women. Vance's previous comments on women who don't have kids and such are definitely going to be an issue in this election.
Same thing goes with Walz progressive positions. But his push to give 20 weeks of maternity in Minnesota will play well with the married women as well.
I know historically the VP pick didn't matter, but I suspect there may be a little more importance this year because of the nature of the 2 candidates.
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Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:02 AM)mlb Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:19 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: Single women are the base of the democrat party. They’re not coming back. Married women still vote Republican.
According to Pew, it is about 50/50 in terms of married women. Vance's previous comments on women who don't have kids and such are definitely going to be an issue in this election.
Same thing goes with Walz progressive positions. But his push to give 20 weeks of maternity in Minnesota will play well with the married women as well.
I know historically the VP pick didn't matter, but I suspect there may be a little more importance this year because of the nature of the 2 candidates.
You can certainly have that as your opinion. But there is no proof that Vance has hurt the ticket or Walz being far left will either…
It’s Trump vs Harris. War is potentially escalating, recession fears are increasing, and there’s still three full months left until Election Day. Each day is a fresh news cycle. With all the chaos happening every day, if a woman decides to vote based off cat lady comments, then they are morons and shouldn’t be pandered to.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:01 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:56 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:21 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: Not sure why you guys keep believing that ANYBODY votes for a vice president.
A VP won't will you the election but you can lose one with it.
See Sarah Palin.
McCain was losing that election to Obama even if Sarah Palin had never been born.
And, honestly, I think he got more votes with her than he would have gotten without her.
not true ...
mccain briefly led during and right after rnc ...
bounce faded once lehman bros collapsed ...
taking down the broader averages w/ them ...
ALL SHE WROTE
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:14 AM)WalkThePlank Wrote: (08-06-2024 10:02 AM)mlb Wrote: According to Pew, it is about 50/50 in terms of married women. Vance's previous comments on women who don't have kids and such are definitely going to be an issue in this election.
Same thing goes with Walz progressive positions. But his push to give 20 weeks of maternity in Minnesota will play well with the married women as well.
I know historically the VP pick didn't matter, but I suspect there may be a little more importance this year because of the nature of the 2 candidates.
You can certainly have that as your opinion. But there is no proof that Vance has hurt the ticket or Walz being far left will either…
It’s Trump vs Harris. War is potentially escalating, recession fears are increasing, and there’s still three full months left until Election Day. Each day is a fresh news cycle. With all the chaos happening every day, if a woman decides to vote based off cat lady comments, then they are morons and shouldn’t be pandered to.
Not saying they should be pandered to, but it may be wise to choose a candidate that doesn't offend a significant portion of the voting population to be your running mate.
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RE: Field Set
For a position that doesn't make a difference in an election (VP pick), there are certainly a lot of threads about said candidate today.
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RE: Field Set
Quote:The Walz pick shows that Kamala has a serious base problem. If she had actual control of her party she would have selected Shapiro.
Harris is going to run to the base and rely on the multi-billion dollar GOTV and ballot chasing machine Democrats have built.
They are betting on their machinery - not their messaging or persuasion. This is a turnout election relying on who has the most bodies on the ground during voting month.
Quote:Tim Walz refused to add state police resources to quell progressive rioters.
He closed churches during COVID and reopened bars but refused to reopen churches.
He taxes retiree social security income.
He attempted an income tax hike during COVID
He kept kids locked out of public schools.
Under Walz, the murder rate in Minnesota jumped over 50%.
But he's not Jewish.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:24 AM)green Wrote: (08-06-2024 10:01 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:56 AM)Bear Catlett Wrote: A VP won't win you the election but you can lose one with it.
See Sarah Palin.
McCain was losing that election to Obama even if Sarah Palin had never been born.
And, honestly, I think he got more votes with her than he would have gotten without her.
not true ...
mccain briefly led during and right after rnc ...
bounce faded once lehman bros collapsed ...
taking down the broader averages w/ them ...
ALL SHE WROTE
I’ll rephrase.
After the market meltdown in early September, there was no way that McCain was going to win that election, regardless of who he picked for #2.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:32 AM)mlb Wrote: For a position that doesn't make a difference in an election (VP pick), there are certainly a lot of threads about said candidate today.
We're just giving Tampon Boy Tim Walz his due. Its not like he can drive a lot of attention otherwise. (But he can drive 96mph in a 55mph and blow a .128 and claim its because he was deaf.)
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:32 AM)mlb Wrote: For a position that doesn't make a difference in an election (VP pick), there are certainly a lot of threads about said candidate today.
This board is full of political wonks. We're going to talk about it way more than the average bear.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:00 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:10 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: (08-06-2024 07:58 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1820804240786206808
LET'S GO
Wasn't Walter Mondale from Minnesota?
Yep. And they WON Minnesota!
Course that was ALL they won, but it’s a W
They won it by about 2000 votes.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:48 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: (08-06-2024 10:00 AM)JMUDunk Wrote: (08-06-2024 09:10 AM)Eldonabe Wrote: (08-06-2024 07:58 AM)green Wrote:
https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/1820804240786206808
LET'S GO
Wasn't Walter Mondale from Minnesota?
Yep. And they WON Minnesota!
Course that was ALL they won, but it’s a W
They won it by about 2000 votes.
minnesota in play ...
RUST BELT OR BUST
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 09:58 AM)oruvoice Wrote: I don't for one second believe that Kamala made this choice and I don't believe they looked at Walz as the "best choice". I believe that the media and pollsters are lying about the numbers (imagine that) and that none of the other Blue Team VP choices wanted to derail their political careers, by joining a losing ticket and partnering with the dumbest human being to ever run for POTUS.
He's the only one that would accept.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:53 AM)green Wrote: ![[Image: lnvDg.png]](https://www.270towin.com/maps/lnvDg.png)
minnesota in play ...
RUST BELT OR BUST
I believe this is the best-case scenario for Harris/Walz, and it’s less than a 50/50 shot. But it could happen.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 10:53 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:
Totally different vibe than Bill Maher, but Van Jones shares Maher’s penchant for being an anti-Trump Democrat who nevertheless says things that most other anti-Trump Democrats (like Jim Acosta, LOL) don’t want to hear.
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RE: Field Set
(08-06-2024 11:10 AM)Native Georgian Wrote: (08-06-2024 10:53 AM)green Wrote: ![[Image: lnvDg.png]](https://www.270towin.com/maps/lnvDg.png)
minnesota in play ...
RUST BELT OR BUST
I believe this is the best-case scenario for Harris/Walz, and it’s less than a 50/50 shot. But it could happen.
Nebraska may ultimately change their allocation rules prior to the election. If so, a 269-269 tie goes to Trump.
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