(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 11:55 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Kinda weird that the judge and AG claimed Trump overvalued stuff to get loans, then they overvalued the sentencing.

Says who?

The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Pesky bill of rights strikes again

Could you imagine where we would be if Madison won the day and there were no bill of rights

YIKES

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(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 11:55 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Kinda weird that the judge and AG claimed Trump overvalued stuff to get loans, then they overvalued the sentencing.

Says who?

The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive? Relative to what? What exactly should the fine be for, over 10 years, fraudulently overvaluing his properties for loan benefits while undervaluing the very same properties for tax benefits? How much money was lost to the banks and how much money was lost in tax revenue relative to the bond?

(03-26-2024 02:54 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

Magnificent
Orange
Bastard

(03-26-2024 04:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Says who?

The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive? Relative to what?

The number of victims and the amount of fraud actually proven at trial. (Which is currently zero.)

Its ok, LeTit will have her opportunity in front of the appellate court to try to tell them how she thinks Maralargo is only worth $18million.

(03-26-2024 08:45 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 08:42 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Just to be clear....is today the day?

I do believe the random number the appeals court pulled out of their ass is 10 days. So no.

Actually it was 11 days. 24 additional hours to gain another 100,000,000 or so I'd guess.

'Pears Judge Nudy (Yes, I stole that) woefully under fined the MOB.

Sad.

(03-26-2024 04:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Says who?

The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive? Relative to what? What exactly should the fine be for, over 10 years, fraudulently overvaluing his properties for loan benefits while undervaluing the very same properties for tax benefits? How much money was lost to the banks and how much money was lost in tax revenue relative to the bond?

What "loan benefits"? What does that even mean? Meeting the terms of the loan(s) as offered by the lenders? How many borrowers get to "value" their own properties for loans?

Dude, quit splashing around and grab the life ring, otherwise you're going down with the rest of the loons.

Comical. Must be a renter.

(03-26-2024 04:46 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive? Relative to what? What exactly should the fine be for, over 10 years, fraudulently overvaluing his properties for loan benefits while undervaluing the very same properties for tax benefits? How much money was lost to the banks and how much money was lost in tax revenue relative to the bond?

What "loan benefits"? What does that even mean? Meeting the terms of the loan(s) as offered by the lenders? How many borrowers get to "value" their own properties for loans?

If you own higher value properties, you have higher access to collateral, yes? Which determines the interest rate that the bank offers you, right?

If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If you own higher value properties, you have higher access to collateral, yes? Which determines the interest rate that the bank offers you, right?

If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

No one is going to loan you anything without an inspection of the home, JFC. Are you seriously this stupid?

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

(03-26-2024 04:17 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 02:05 PM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 01:11 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 12:57 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Says who?

The constitution

Cite please.

Amendment VIII (1791)
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Excessive? Relative to what? What exactly should the fine be for, over 10 years, fraudulently overvaluing his properties for loan benefits while undervaluing the very same properties for tax benefits? How much money was lost to the banks and how much money was lost in tax revenue relative to the bond?

Tell you what Khrushchev, when they start investigating other New York businesses, for the same type of “crime“ you may have something. So far there is no relevance at all. Otherwise you’re just a moron, trying to figure out the best way to make this look good.
The appellate court will make that decision. If it’s not a good one, then the Supreme Court will make the final decision.

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

(03-26-2024 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

Clearly commercial real estate appraisers are alchemists, privy to uncanny numbers that the common man cannot comprehend

(03-26-2024 05:35 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

Clearly, I failed at post #1 commercial real estate appraisers are alchemists, privy to uncanny numbers that the common man cannot comprehend ... please allow me to continue to fail ... I'm an expert

b/c I should've been born a jew FIFY

(03-26-2024 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

This makes TWICE Owl69 has attempted to educate Kruciff on this point.

At some point getting your @ss handed to you has GOT to get old.

(03-26-2024 05:56 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 04:55 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  If I claim a prefab mobile home as my collateral, but pretend it's a McMansion in order to gain access to more money at lower interest rates, is that legal?

But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

This makes TWICE Owl69 has attempted to educate Kruciff on this point.

At some point getting your @ss handed to you has GOT to get old.

I'll never understand the pastel'd version of the masochistic ... they're not as rare a breed as once as(s)umed or consumed...

Today's the day!


Bwahahahahaha

(03-26-2024 06:02 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:56 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:14 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(03-26-2024 05:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  But nobody has done that.

But Donald Trump. Where would you add 17,000 sf to your collateral right now?

Nope. Your failure to comprehend how commercial real estate is valued is showing.

This makes TWICE Owl69 has attempted to educate Kruciff on this point.

At some point getting your @ss handed to you has GOT to get old.

I'll never understand the pastel'd version of the masochistic ... they're not as rare a breed as once as(s)umed or consumed...

All mouth. Prob didnt have a dad. Needs an arse whippin

You know the type