If the jury fails to convict - - which agree is a < 10% likelihood - - then Biden is toast as the Democrat nominee. He will be replaced, probably before the June 27 scheduled “debate”, if not via voluntary withdrawal then getting pushed down the stairs.
A convicted Trump is the ONLY hope that they Biden campaign has for remaining in the race.
(05-17-2024 04:40 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: If the jury fails to convict - - which agree is a < 10% likelihood - - then Biden is toast as the Democrat nominee. He will be replaced, probably before the June 27 scheduled “debate”, if not via voluntary withdrawal then getting pushed down the stairs.
A convicted Trump is the ONLY hope that they Biden campaign has for remaining in the race.
The dems have backed themselves into a corner. They can’t get rid of the senile old kleptocrat until they have a good way to get rid of Kumswallow. And I don’t know now how they will do that. I don’t think Barry’s other half wants anything to do with actually being president.
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
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And have they been able to prove that Trump did this? Seems all arrows point to Michael Cohen.
All true. And if the jury convicts based upon the evidence (as I second-hand understand it), it will be a travesty of justice.
Yet it is also another Trump-patented lesson about being very careful in whom we associate with. Michael Cohen didn't force himself on Donald Trump. He was a nasty pet that never should have been allowed in the house in the first place. (I know, I know, this is not the time for second guessing. Blame it on the TDS.)
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2024 07:01 AM by AdoptedMonarch.)
(05-17-2024 07:00 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote: Yet it is also another Trump-patented lesson about being very careful in whom we associate with. Michael Cohen didn't force himself on Donald Trump. He was a nasty pet that never should have been allowed in the house in the first place. (I know, I know, this is not the time for second guessing. Blame it on the TDS.)
But keep in mind what Cohen was doing for him. Trump was in the land development business, particularly hotels with casinos. That meant he had to deal with building inspectors, unions, and the mob--three groups known for more than their share of unsavory characters. He needed a sleazy and hard-nosed mad dog to deal with them, not a great technical attorney. Cohen could be that.
Trump's problem has been relying on the same characters to deal with technical legal issues as he did to get tough with building inspectors, union leaders, and mobsters.
MSNBC and CNN must have gotten the marching orders, they have been brutal to cohen over the dramatic cross-examination when he was caught in lie about the phone call that was supposedly made to make the deal. They weren’t covering for him, in fact they were throwing him overboard. Looks like they don’t want a hung jury which they know Trump would take as a victory and so they’ll rather the judge do a direct verdict, throw Braggs under the bus and move on [no way is Trump found not guilty because of some partisans but if he was by some miracle it would the biggest skyrocketing ever for a politician running]
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2024 11:27 AM by BigTigerMike.)
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
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That the law he's charged under the charges would be...
on so and so date Trump did this or that
with 33 other crimes laid out just like the above and I believe the full indictment with the charges would have been read to the jury at the beginning of the trial
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2024 11:38 AM by WKUYG.)
(05-16-2024 01:17 PM)TripleA Wrote: Back to the trial. Martha MacCallum of Fox News has been in the courtroom all day while Trump's defense attorney cross-examines Cohen.
She thinks, looking at the jurors, that it is not going well for Trump. The cross is, in her words, too detailed, too meandering, and the jury has mostly checked out, looks bored, easily distracted, etc.
She says a few are taking notes, but most are not paying attention to the cross at all. And this after they paid rapt attention to the prosecution's case.
Not that any of that is a surprise...
I think Cooper is probably right.
What MacCallum is saying is that the jury isn't paying attention!
Trump is getting convicted. That jury pool is a 2 foot putt for the prosecution.
here's your timeline (stickin' with the Scheffler theme of crazy shite)
this one I did on #9 when qualifying (was -1 thru 8) ... yeah, nuts zongo went volcanic that day in '83 ...
in other words, they're going to convict on a few charges (conceded to tanq-0-rang moons ago) ... so fk'n what ... all it does is set the media frenzied catalyst going into the debates...
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
That the law he's charged under the charges would be...
on so and so date Trump did this or that
with 33 other crimes laid out just like the above and I believe the full indictment with the charges would have been read to the jury at the beginning of the trial
We know what the charges are. ( A handful of charges replicated over and over again)
What we dont know is what crime Trump committed that enables those charges.
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
That the law he's charged under the charges would be...
on so and so date Trump did this or that
with 33 other crimes laid out just like the above and I believe the full indictment with the charges would have been read to the jury at the beginning of the trial
We know what the charges are. ( A handful of charges replicated over and over again)
What we dont know is what crime Trump committed that enables those charges.
He won the 2016 election and decided to run for election in 2024
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
And have they been able to prove that Trump did this? Seems all arrows point to Michael Cohen.
I'll be honest, haven't followed closely since there are no cameras and I don't trust the media who get to be in the room. I just know that is the charge.
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
And have they been able to prove that Trump did this? Seems all arrows point to Michael Cohen.
I'll be honest, haven't followed closely since there are no cameras and I don't trust the media who get to be in the room. I just know that is the charge.
(05-17-2024 06:28 AM)gdunn Wrote: Does anyone know what the charges are? Because the jury hasn't been told what the charges are.
34 counts of falsifying business records
Sent from my Pixel 6 using Tapatalk
That the law he's charged under the charges would be...
on so and so date Trump did this or that
with 33 other crimes laid out just like the above and I believe the full indictment with the charges would have been read to the jury at the beginning of the trial
We know what the charges are. ( A handful of charges replicated over and over again)
What we dont know is what crime Trump committed that enables those charges.
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