(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasonsto hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

Fools are quick to cut off their nose to spite their face.

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

I agree with that. SH will be seriously be looked at by some major programs that need a QB anyway.

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

Have 2 coaches ever been fired within 48 hours of playing each other?

After egg bowl

Both ole miss and state fired their head coaches

(11-13-2023 03:04 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 02:43 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:50 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:46 PM)Southaven Wrote:  You said none of the 3 that left have done anything.

If you think a 5-5 schedule is doing something, I don't know what to say. Beating one good team doesn't make up for a .500 result.

Beating the #15 team 45-3 is something whether you want to believe it or not.

It certainly is a nice accomplishment, but their record also says something whether you want to believe it or not.

Record of 5-5. Sagarin ranks them 34, SOS of 34. Sagarin ranks us 72, and SOS of 111.

They would probably curb stomp us whether you want to believe it or not.

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

No one is hiring Ryan after this year. Even if they win out. There are only a few people who seem to have forgotten last year's 8th place (tied) AAC finish, and they are all here. He would have to put back to back seasons together to get any serious interest.

(11-13-2023 09:10 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Record of 5-5. Sagarin ranks them 34, SOS of 34. Sagarin ranks us 72, and SOS of 111.

They would probably curb stomp us whether you want to believe it or not.

Sure, Sagarin has UCF at 34 and Memphis at 72. Missouri is 21. To claim that they would curb stomp us is hilarious, especially when we lost to Missouri by a touchdown on the road. None of this changes the fact that a 5-5 record is nothing to brag about, even if they had a good win recently. It also doesn't invalidate the point that I was originally making.

Utimately Sagarin is one man's opinion. The Massey Composite is exactly that, a composite of many people's (and system's) opinions. I know which I prefer.

(11-13-2023 10:19 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:10 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Record of 5-5. Sagarin ranks them 34, SOS of 34. Sagarin ranks us 72, and SOS of 111.

They would probably curb stomp us whether you want to believe it or not.

Sure, Sagarin has UCF at 34 and Memphis at 72. Missouri is 21. To claim that they would curb stomp us is hilarious, especially when we lost to Missouri by a touchdown on the road. None of this changes the fact that a 5-5 record is nothing to brag about, even if they had a good win recently. It also doesn't invalidate the point that I was originally making.

Utimately Sagarin is one man's opinion. The Massey Composite is exactly that, a composite of many people's (and system's) opinions. I know which I prefer.

As long as you feel that you are right.

(11-13-2023 10:57 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 10:19 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:10 PM)Southaven Wrote:  Record of 5-5. Sagarin ranks them 34, SOS of 34. Sagarin ranks us 72, and SOS of 111.

They would probably curb stomp us whether you want to believe it or not.

Sure, Sagarin has UCF at 34 and Memphis at 72. Missouri is 21. To claim that they would curb stomp us is hilarious, especially when we lost to Missouri by a touchdown on the road. None of this changes the fact that a 5-5 record is nothing to brag about, even if they had a good win recently. It also doesn't invalidate the point that I was originally making.

Utimately Sagarin is one man's opinion. The Massey Composite is exactly that, a composite of many people's (and system's) opinions. I know which I prefer.

As long as you feel that you are right.

What kind of petty nonsense is that? You have your opinion and I have mine. It seems that in your world view, they can't both co-exist.

I laid out my facts and you laid out yours. You feel that one good win is the cat's meow and I say that having a losing record until that win paints a bigger picture. It is what it is.

(11-13-2023 09:26 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

No one is hiring Ryan after this year. Even if they win out. There are only a few people who seem to have forgotten last year's 8th place (tied) AAC finish, and they are all here. He would have to put back to back seasons together to get any serious interest.

Not sure that makes sense. If we win out....and he parlays Henigan and his obvious recruiting capabilities into a deal somewhere else for more money......they are both gone. I think its time to support the team and players and give them both a reason to stay. Our two losses were respectable to rated teams. Nothing to be ashamed of here and no reason to throw in the towel. If a new coach had come in this year and did what Silverfield did this year you would be saying "See, that new coach was a great hire and a great portal recruiter."

(11-14-2023 12:31 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Nothing to be ashamed of here and no reason to throw in the towel. If a new coach had come in this year and did what Silverfield did this year you would be saying "See, that new coach was a great hire and a great portal recruiter."

Facts.

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

So now Ruin is bigger than the program? "Watch out" because those back to back .500 seasons did wonders for us and now we haven't beaten a winning team since 2021.

Stop putting Ruin on a pedestal like he's Saban, Ruin or Seth are not bigger than the program -- hell, we're squeaking by CUSA teams on last minute miracles as is with countless coaching blunders in Year 4. Many on this board were calling for Seth's head earlier this season due to his turnover woes and wanted Tevin to get reps. You people are so fickle and are emotional rather than looking at the big picture.

If they do leave, I have complete confidence (if we use the search firm and not make an emotional hire) that we can find a much better coach and with the portal, etc. these days finding a seasoned QB to bridge the gap is not as difficult as it once was. If Tevin is supposedly the guy a year or two from now then there you go, not as difficult as performing a lobotomy, which many of you need.

(11-14-2023 12:50 AM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-14-2023 12:31 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  Nothing to be ashamed of here and no reason to throw in the towel. If a new coach had come in this year and did what Silverfield did this year you would be saying "See, that new coach was a great hire and a great portal recruiter."

Facts.

Silverfield is in year 4. He needs to use some of his recruiting prowess to get a defense.

Look, if he wins the last two this year I'll get behind him with or without a CCG appearance.

If he can have a high octane offense with at least an average defense that dog will hunt in the G5 all day long.

But if he loses to SMU this week then, again - who has he beat this year or last year? Not any good teams....

(11-14-2023 09:55 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Silverfield is in year 4. He needs to use some of his recruiting prowess to get a defense.

Look, if he wins the last two this year I'll get behind him with or without a CCG appearance.

If he can have a high octane offense with at least an average defense that dog will hunt in the G5 all day long.

But if he loses to SMU this week then, again - who has he beat this year or last year? Not any good teams....

I understand and don't disagree that the team could have done better. We should have beaten both Tulane and Mizzou this season, and we beat ourselves as much as they beat us. Many of our wins haven't been the prettiest either, but they're still wins, which is the important element.

I agree that our defense has been lackluster. I've been watching the games this season, but I don't get into the minutiae with the football team as I do with basketball. Aren't we dealing with injuries in addition to lack of depth?

Ultimately, we've won games. Not only that, we've won close games that we probably would have lost last season. Coming back from behind may not be ideal, but it is an improvement that should be recognized. Few things in life are ideal, but it's better than the alternative and if he were a new hire, everyone would be overjoyed with our results this season.

I'm not saying Silverfield deserves an extension. I've been very consistent in saying that he deserves a chance to play the season out and that our record is encouraging. I'm also optimistic that next year will be even better as we bring on new players, get our existing players healthy, and the new coaching staff has had even more time to acclimatize.

(11-14-2023 09:03 AM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

So now Ruin is bigger than the program? "Watch out" because those back to back .500 seasons did wonders for us and now we haven't beaten a winning team since 2021.

Stop putting Ruin on a pedestal like he's Saban, Ruin or Seth are not bigger than the program -- hell, we're squeaking by CUSA teams on last minute miracles as is with countless coaching blunders in Year 4. Many on this board were calling for Seth's head earlier this season due to his turnover woes and wanted Tevin to get reps. You people are so fickle and are emotional rather than looking at the big picture.

If they do leave, I have complete confidence (if we use the search firm and not make an emotional hire) that we can find a much better coach and with the portal, etc. these days finding a seasoned QB to bridge the gap is not as difficult as it once was. If Tevin is supposedly the guy a year or two from now then there you go, not as difficult as performing a lobotomy, which many of you need.

Stop putting us on a pedestal of ALabama, Ohio State and Michigan

(11-13-2023 06:04 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 05:41 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 04:57 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 11:58 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  No extension now, but if he finishes 9-3 or 10-2 each year on his remaining contract, I’d be all for it. I think we’re damn lucky to be 8-2, but we’re still winning games.

I tend to agree. The qualifier though is not the wins. That's too dependent on scheduling - and as a G5, scheduling can be a bit tricky.

The qualifier is our AAC standing. And this year, we are in the mix. But don't extend him based on 1 year - not after the last 3.

Agree! Let’s see what happens next year. Truth be told, I don’t think we’ll have the money to buy him out anyway. There was a lot of talk here about canning him after Tulane, but I wanted to see how we’d finish. While some of our wins (against weaker teams) have been unreal, they still count as wins. Finishing 10-2 or 9-3 just isn’t bad at all. Both of our losses have been reasonably close too and both are good teams. Anyway, let’s see how we finish and what happens next year. If we are awful, I’ll dig out my pitchfork….

What happens if we win out and beat Tulane in CCG?

CRS parade? Knighthood? Kennedy Center Honors? WWE Appearance? BBQ sandwich named after him?

We go to a big boy bowl, although I'm kinda amazed you know what the Kennedy Center Honors is.

and whole team go to Sizzler?

(11-14-2023 10:48 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:04 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 05:41 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 04:57 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 04:41 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I tend to agree. The qualifier though is not the wins. That's too dependent on scheduling - and as a G5, scheduling can be a bit tricky.

The qualifier is our AAC standing. And this year, we are in the mix. But don't extend him based on 1 year - not after the last 3.

Agree! Let’s see what happens next year. Truth be told, I don’t think we’ll have the money to buy him out anyway. There was a lot of talk here about canning him after Tulane, but I wanted to see how we’d finish. While some of our wins (against weaker teams) have been unreal, they still count as wins. Finishing 10-2 or 9-3 just isn’t bad at all. Both of our losses have been reasonably close too and both are good teams. Anyway, let’s see how we finish and what happens next year. If we are awful, I’ll dig out my pitchfork….

What happens if we win out and beat Tulane in CCG?

CRS parade? Knighthood? Kennedy Center Honors? WWE Appearance? BBQ sandwich named after him?

We go to a big boy bowl, although I'm kinda amazed you know what the Kennedy Center Honors is.

and whole team go to Sizzler?

always

(11-14-2023 12:31 AM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:26 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

No one is hiring Ryan after this year. Even if they win out. There are only a few people who seem to have forgotten last year's 8th place (tied) AAC finish, and they are all here. He would have to put back to back seasons together to get any serious interest.

Not sure that makes sense. If we win out....and he parlays Henigan and his obvious recruiting capabilities into a deal somewhere else for more money......they are both gone. I think its time to support the team and players and give them both a reason to stay. Our two losses were respectable to rated teams. Nothing to be ashamed of here and no reason to throw in the towel. If a new coach had come in this year and did what Silverfield did this year you would be saying "See, that new coach was a great hire and a great portal recruiter."

The problem is that the last 2 years did in fact happen. If this was his 1st or even 2nd year, his resume would be pretty strong. But it will take more than 1 good year to get most AD's attention (and erase the last 2 years bottom-half finishes).

Any good coach hired these days will bring a qb with him, or quickly acquire one. Seth has been gritty, but there are many more out there.

(11-14-2023 10:47 AM)tpaw09 Wrote:  

(11-14-2023 09:03 AM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:51 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 07:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 06:58 PM)DallasTiger Wrote:  If he beats SMU, expect the schools looking for a replacement to be calling him. He moves way up the list of candidates.

Fingers crossed that happens! It’d be a win/win for all parties to see him go out with his first victory over an above .500 team since 2021!!

We lose Silverfield and Henigan goes with him. That's one of the reasons to hire him. Watch out what you wish for.

So now Ruin is bigger than the program? "Watch out" because those back to back .500 seasons did wonders for us and now we haven't beaten a winning team since 2021.

Stop putting Ruin on a pedestal like he's Saban, Ruin or Seth are not bigger than the program -- hell, we're squeaking by CUSA teams on last minute miracles as is with countless coaching blunders in Year 4. Many on this board were calling for Seth's head earlier this season due to his turnover woes and wanted Tevin to get reps. You people are so fickle and are emotional rather than looking at the big picture.

If they do leave, I have complete confidence (if we use the search firm and not make an emotional hire) that we can find a much better coach and with the portal, etc. these days finding a seasoned QB to bridge the gap is not as difficult as it once was. If Tevin is supposedly the guy a year or two from now then there you go, not as difficult as performing a lobotomy, which many of you need.

Stop putting us on a pedestal of ALabama, Ohio State and Michigan

Huh? Have you had too much of grandpa's ole cough medicine today? I know reading/processing/writing is difficult for you tPopcorn & Coca-Cola. You are one odd bird - I now understand why you sit up top underneath the suites where the pigeons flock, the brain works the same with you & them.