What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

(11-13-2023 08:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

Unbreakable has gone on the record saying he would still call for his head, even if we win the next three games, end up 11-2, and play in a NY6 bowl.

(11-13-2023 08:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

He should be at the top of the list to get hired away by a "Power Conference" school, and all of our fans will be worried...right?

(11-13-2023 09:21 AM)ballhog Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 08:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

He should be at the top of the list to get hired away by a "Power Conference" school, and all of our fans will be worried...right?

That's the key. Like someone else pointed out earlier in this thread, let's see if other schools try to lure him away. Doubt those who want to retain Silverfield here will have to worry about it.

I suppose 8-2 is better than 2-8. But like others have said, look under the hood and you see not a single win against a team with a winning record. The schedule is incredibly watered down.

Saturday is a big game. Win the next two and play for a conference championship, and perhaps he changes the narrative a bit for those like myself who aren't big believers in him.

Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

(11-13-2023 09:28 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  Mississippi State just fired their HC.

With all these openings it seems like Silverfield will garner interest.

We will see, but I'd be shocked if there was any real interest.

He's not getting fired this year. The serious question should be, does he get a contract extension?

I absolutely, positively hope not. You don't have to extend these days for the old "recruiting class" excuse. Players can leave whenever they want if a coach is fired, so we don't have to play that game. The only reason left for an extension is to lock someone in so they don't get stolen. No one is going to hire Ryan away from us - at least not this year.

He's got 2 years left after this year. Let's see how next year goes before considering an extension. At the very most, if you have have to extend, make it a token extension with the same buyout.

And to be clear - the bar is not a bowl game, it's the AAC title game.

(11-12-2023 02:10 PM)msu35 Wrote:  We're on an upward trajectory. Considering we have a brand new staff under Silverfield, we're doing quite well. Not many programs can reboot their staff and win so many games the first year, and the fact that the players like our head coach and play hard for him shouldn't be discounted.

Want to know what an 8 or 9 win season will help with? Recruiting. Know what recruiting will bring? Better players. Know what better players will do? I think you get the idea.

I’m not for firing Silverfield. I thought he needed to win the easy games after Tulane and at least get to 9-3. He’s done that and 10-2 is possible. I don’t care who you play, 10-2 is good.

Upward trajectory? Not sure about that. We lost Houston , Cinci, and UCF and added a lot of teams with losing records. Only UTSA has done well so far, and honestly, they’ve just beat the bottom dwellers like we have. I’m not sure, as a conference, that we have beat any real quality OOC teams. So, I’m not sure if we have upward trajectory or an easy schedule, but regardless, we’re not going to fire a coach that goes 9-3 or 10-2. I wouldn’t seek an extension for RS, but I’m happy about our team. Lots of miracle wins against weak teams, but we won!

(11-13-2023 11:23 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  And to be clear - the bar is not a bowl game, it's the AAC title game.

If your annual bar is the AAC title game, you'll rarely be happy. Time to move on and follow another school if that's the case.

(11-13-2023 11:23 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  He's not getting fired this year. The serious question should be, does he get a contract extension?

I absolutely, positively hope not. You don't have to extend these days for the old "recruiting class" excuse. Players can leave whenever they want if a coach is fired, so we don't have to play that game. The only reason left for an extension is to lock someone in so they don't get stolen. No one is going to hire Ryan away from us - at least not this year.

He's got 2 years left after this year. Let's see how next year goes before considering an extension. At the very most, if you have have to extend, make it a token extension with the same buyout.

And to be clear - the bar is not a bowl game, it's the AAC title game.

No extension now, but if he finishes 9-3 or 10-2 each year on his remaining contract, I’d be all for it. I think we’re damn lucky to be 8-2, but we’re still winning games. Look at Tulane, they’re just squeaking by too. I think UTSA may beat them this year….

(11-13-2023 11:54 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Upward trajectory? Not sure about that. We lost Houston , Cinci, and UCF and added a lot of teams with losing records. Only UTSA has done well so far, and honestly, they’ve just beat the bottom dwellers like we have. I’m not sure, as a conference, that we have beat any real quality OOC teams. So, I’m not sure if we have upward trajectory or an easy schedule, but regardless, we’re not going to fire a coach that goes 9-3 or 10-2. I wouldn’t seek an extension for RS, but I’m happy about our team. Lots of miracle wins against weak teams, but we won!

None of the three that left are doing anything in the B12 this season. UTSA is an outlier. Most schools that upgrade conferences struggle at first.

Let's look at this objectively using the Massey Composite:

32 Tulane
37 SMU
44 Memphis
49 UCF
58 UTSA
90 Houston
93 Cincinnati
99 Rice

Obviously, they aren't the amazing football programs that you are pretending they are and we really haven't lost much. Time to admit that the AAC isn't demonstrably worse after losing those programs?

I'd be down with firing the DC after this season.

(11-13-2023 12:03 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 11:54 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Upward trajectory? Not sure about that. We lost Houston , Cinci, and UCF and added a lot of teams with losing records. Only UTSA has done well so far, and honestly, they’ve just beat the bottom dwellers like we have. I’m not sure, as a conference, that we have beat any real quality OOC teams. So, I’m not sure if we have upward trajectory or an easy schedule, but regardless, we’re not going to fire a coach that goes 9-3 or 10-2. I wouldn’t seek an extension for RS, but I’m happy about our team. Lots of miracle wins against weak teams, but we won!

None of the three that left are doing anything in the B12 this season. UTSA is an outlier. Most schools that upgrade conferences struggle at first.

Let's look at this objectively using the Massey Composite:

32 Tulane
37 SMU
44 Memphis
49 UCF
58 UTSA
90 Houston
93 Cincinnati
99 Rice

Obviously, they aren't the amazing football programs that you are pretending they are and we really haven't lost much. Time to admit that the AAC isn't demonstrably worse after losing those programs?

ucf beat #15 Ok St 45-3 Saturday to move to 5-5 on the season.

(11-13-2023 12:40 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:03 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 11:54 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Upward trajectory? Not sure about that. We lost Houston , Cinci, and UCF and added a lot of teams with losing records. Only UTSA has done well so far, and honestly, they’ve just beat the bottom dwellers like we have. I’m not sure, as a conference, that we have beat any real quality OOC teams. So, I’m not sure if we have upward trajectory or an easy schedule, but regardless, we’re not going to fire a coach that goes 9-3 or 10-2. I wouldn’t seek an extension for RS, but I’m happy about our team. Lots of miracle wins against weak teams, but we won!

None of the three that left are doing anything in the B12 this season. UTSA is an outlier. Most schools that upgrade conferences struggle at first.

Let's look at this objectively using the Massey Composite:

32 Tulane
37 SMU
44 Memphis
49 UCF
58 UTSA
90 Houston
93 Cincinnati
99 Rice

Obviously, they aren't the amazing football programs that you are pretending they are and we really haven't lost much. Time to admit that the AAC isn't demonstrably worse after losing those programs?

ucf beat #15 Ok St 45-3 Saturday to move to 5-5 on the season.

Yep, which is why they're 49 now.

(11-13-2023 12:44 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:40 PM)Southaven Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:03 PM)msu35 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 11:54 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Upward trajectory? Not sure about that. We lost Houston , Cinci, and UCF and added a lot of teams with losing records. Only UTSA has done well so far, and honestly, they’ve just beat the bottom dwellers like we have. I’m not sure, as a conference, that we have beat any real quality OOC teams. So, I’m not sure if we have upward trajectory or an easy schedule, but regardless, we’re not going to fire a coach that goes 9-3 or 10-2. I wouldn’t seek an extension for RS, but I’m happy about our team. Lots of miracle wins against weak teams, but we won!

None of the three that left are doing anything in the B12 this season. UTSA is an outlier. Most schools that upgrade conferences struggle at first.

Let's look at this objectively using the Massey Composite:

32 Tulane
37 SMU
44 Memphis
49 UCF
58 UTSA
90 Houston
93 Cincinnati
99 Rice

Obviously, they aren't the amazing football programs that you are pretending they are and we really haven't lost much. Time to admit that the AAC isn't demonstrably worse after losing those programs?

ucf beat #15 Ok St 45-3 Saturday to move to 5-5 on the season.

Yep, which is why they're 49 now.

You said none of the 3 that left have done anything.

(11-13-2023 12:46 PM)Southaven Wrote:  You said none of the 3 that left have done anything.

If you think a 5-5 schedule is doing something, I don't know what to say. Beating one good team doesn't make up for a .500 result.

(11-13-2023 09:11 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 08:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

Unbreakable has gone on the record saying he would still call for his head, even if we win the next three games, end up 11-2, and play in a NY6 bowl.

Being able to read & comprehend isn't your strong suit, SimpleWolf. Stop being emotional and use facts + what is written and you'll understand. I know that's tough for many on this site -- very emotional bunch with blue colored glasses on.

Facts hurt people's feelings.

(11-13-2023 12:55 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 09:11 AM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 08:21 AM)bubbapt Wrote:  What if we don’t fire him and he wins his next three games?

Unbreakable has gone on the record saying he would still call for his head, even if we win the next three games, end up 11-2, and play in a NY6 bowl.

Being able to read & comprehend isn't your strong suit, SimpleWolf. Stop being emotional and use facts + what is written and you'll understand. I know that's tough for many on this site -- very emotional bunch with blue colored glasses on.

Facts hurt people's feelings.

Do you deny you admitted in the other thread that you still want him gone if we win out? Or are you going to go edit it out?

(11-13-2023 01:49 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(11-13-2023 12:55 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote:  Being able to read & comprehend isn't your strong suit, SimpleWolf. Stop being emotional and use facts + what is written and you'll understand. I know that's tough for many on this site -- very emotional bunch with blue colored glasses on.

Facts hurt people's feelings.

Do you deny you admitted in the other thread that you still want him gone if we win out? Or are you going to go edit it out?

I see that you're now in an endless feedback loop with this Debbie Downer. I promise you, the board will improve exponentially if you put her on ignore.

I had the feeling that 6 or less would get him fired this year, 7 was a maybe, and 8 and above he's safe.