(07-07-2023 01:53 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:40 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The GOP establishment is not much different than the Dems. They may not spearhead the legislation, but not repealing and enabling such behavior makes it worse IMO. Their lying led to a character like Trump to emerge and become to leader of the party. Blame McCain, McConnell, Ryan, Bushes, etc.

The people are frustrated. They are tired of just a few names being their option in either party. IMO that added to Bernie on the left. Yes he was an old D.C. name, but new as a Presidential candidate, never mind his politics.

The point I'm making is that legacy candidates are despised by the public whether democrat or republican is of little matter. People want fresh faces and new ideas. Trumps face wasn't fresh, but it was as a candidate and speaking bluntly was an initial turn on.

If the Republicans want traction then crap can the names Romney, Bush, Cheney, and so on. No Clintons, Obamas, Bidens, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. for the Democrats either. Americans want to know why a nation of 330 million plus people can only come up with a few families who can run for president. It's smacks too much of aristocracy, which both the left and right in the U.S. despise.

We need 21st century thinkers in all of our areas of need, Government, Military, Space, and Manufacturing. We need to make our necessary supplies internally and our military parts absolutely at home.

I think most Americans outside of Corporate CEOs would agree on this.

Agreed.

And we can't even seem to get rid of the silent generation in DC! Biden, Pelosi, McConnell.

(07-07-2023 04:27 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I will NEVER vote for another Demoncrapped. Even the worst Rep candidate is more in line with my way of thinking/believing. If I voted for a Demon I would be admitting that I think Satan is doing a good job. The Demons are for corruption, illegality, immorality, and in a nutshell destroying the American way of life. They are into socialism so badly that they don't even hide it anymore. Schiff, who in their right mind would want to live like the Cubans, Venezuelans, etc. Only a brainwashed, ignorant fool without scruples.

Even the last place exGovernor would be better than a Demon.

Kind of feel the same way. I did vote for some Democrats at county level offices up into the 90s. I may have voted for some for some statewide offices, but never for federal or governor's jobs.

(07-07-2023 09:55 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 01:40 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  The GOP establishment is not much different than the Dems. They may not spearhead the legislation, but not repealing and enabling such behavior makes it worse IMO. Their lying led to a character like Trump to emerge and become to leader of the party. Blame McCain, McConnell, Ryan, Bushes, etc.

You don't think Romney was different than Obama?????

Romney was Obama-lite. The goal in 2012 was to beat Obama and vote for the "most electable candidate," and he got spanked. The GOP primary voters made sure that wasn't a repeat in 2016.

Trump winning in 2016 ultimately showed the true colors of the establishment and the schism between the caucuses.