(06-25-2023 03:46 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:17 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(06-22-2023 09:02 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Some of you are being terribly insensitive. Lives were lost here.

Stupid people die everyday and we still call them stupid.

So because some people made presumably a bad decision, it's okay for you to make light of their death? Come on man, show some respect, some families just lost their loved ones.

Show some respect to who? Do you think these families read here? Go hug a tree somewhere.

You wouldn't make light of their death to the families' face, so why do it here?

Boo hoo

Titan Passenger Says OceanGate CEO Told Them to ‘Sleep’ After Sub Battery Went ‘Kaput’ During 2021 Expedition

Quote:According to the New York Post, Jaden Pan, a videographer who once toured the ocean’s depths in OceanGate’s Titan submersible before her fatal final voyage in June, said he experienced a harrowing situation aboard the vessel in 2021.

In an interview on the BBC’s “The Travel Show,” Pan said he was onboard the Titan submersible with OceanGate’s CEO Stockton Rush when unexpectedly, the battery went “kaput.”

Pan reported that Titan’s battery failed about two hours into their voyage to the Titanic. When that happened, Pan claims Rush recommended passengers try to “sleep” while the issue was being addressed.

Pan said: “At first, I thought he was joking because we were over two hours into our expedition and so close to the bottom.”

“But then [Rush] explained that one of the batteries went kaput, and we were having trouble using the electronic drops for the weights…[making] it hard for us to get back up to the surface.”

Pan added that Rush proposed a highly unusual solution: he suggested passengers ‘sleep’ while waiting for the weights that submerged the submersible to dissolve naturally.

The videographer noted that half of the passengers disagreed with Rush’s plan, forcing the CEO to utilize hydraulics to drop the weights, enabling the Titan to resurface.

The incident raises additional safety questions and has given critics reasons to question Rush’s handling of the situation as an indicator of his broader approach to safety procedures.

OceanGate, the submersible operator, is also under scrutiny for its high fees for trips to the Titanic’s wreck site.

The company declined to comment on the battery failure incident or its safety protocols.

The BBC reported US Naval authorities confirmed that OceanGate’s Titan submersible suffered a “catastrophic implosion,” instantly killing all five passengers on board during a descent to the Titanic wreck.

The US Navy reported detecting sounds consistent with an implosion in the area of the sub’s debris field.

Experts suggest the implosion likely occurred due to immense water pressure at a depth of 3,500m. Investigations into the disaster are focusing on the design of Titan’s carbon fiber mid-section as authorities attempt to ascertain whether flaws or instabilities in the submersible’s construction contributed to the loss of structural integrity.

Renowned filmmaker James Cameron expressed skepticism about the design of the Titan, casting further doubt on OceanGate’s commitment to safety in their pursuit of deep-sea exploration.

https://twitter.com/StarlingZain/status/...8870635521

Titan Test Dive Passenger Reveals OceanGate CEO’s Answer When Asked About What Happens in an Emergency

Quote:OceanGate, the company behind the doomed deep sea submarine Titan, has attracted new attention recently after a previous passenger on the the ill-fated vessel quoted chief executive Stockton Rush as dismissing the fear of death aboard the chintzy vessel.

The source of this quotation was Brian Weed, a documentary cameraman who boarded the Titan in 2021 while filming an episode of Expedition Unknown for the Discovery Channel.

When the Titan was sealed, Weed claims he asked Rush what could happen in the event of an emergency, which prompted a surprisingly glib response from the executive.

“Well, there’s four or five days of oxygen on board, and I said, ‘What if they don’t find you?’ And he said, ‘Well, you’re dead anyway,’” Weed said.

“It felt like a very strange thing to think, and it seemed to almost be a nihilistic attitude toward life or death out in the middle of the ocean,” Weed told Insider.

Weed inferred from Rush’s “cavalier attitude” that he believed, effectively, “if you’re out there, and they don’t find you in that many days, you’re just going to die anyway—it’s over for you, so what does it matter if you can’t get out of the sub on your own?”

Weed said that he felt uneasy at the time on account of Rush’s supposedly lax attitude towards “basic safety.”

”That whole dive made me very uncomfortable with the idea of going down to Titanic depths in that submersible,” Weed added.

The dive which Weed was a part of was aborted due to mechanical and communication issues, and Weed ultimately pulled out of the project, citing safety concerns. The Expedition Unknown episode was subsequently canceled.

So there is a leaked Titan to topside transcript floating around out there in the Twitterverse---this is a YouTube video that breaks it down. There are reasons to believe the transcript is real, and reasons to believe it is not---however---I suspect its probably real. The main reason I think its real is one of the things mentioned in the video. The deep submersible community is pretty small and tight knit. James Cameron knew they had an emergency and had dumped ballast long before the news reported it. So--there are lots of people within that community that might have had access to it and leaked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dj8IJbP41c

(07-07-2023 11:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  So there is a leaked Titan to topside transcript floating around out there in the Twitterverse----so, here is a video that breaks it down. There are reasons to believe the transcript is real, and reasons to believe it is not---however---I suspect its probably real. The main reason I think its real is one of the things mentioned in the video. The deep submersible community is pretty small and tight knit. James Cameron knew they had an emergency and had dumped ballast long before the news reported it. So--there are lots of people within that community that might have had access to it and leaked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dj8IJbP41c

I just watched the whole thing. I'm skeptical by nature, but it seems legit to me. It also jives with an earlier report that the Navy heard the implosion about 1 hour and 45 minutes after the descent began.

So if true, the crew and passengers knew for about 20 minutes that they were in serious trouble before the actual implosion. Yikes.

They dropped ballast, then they actually jettisoned the frame. And they were still barely ascending at all. And hearing crackling sounds, which was probably a pinhole water leak starting the implosion.

The families of the four others who died should be suing that idiotic owner. Too bad he wasn't in the sub alone when that happened.

Quote:Jeff Ostroff analyses the video of the wreckage of the OceanGate Titan Sub that imploded at the wreck site of the Titanic. From here the manufacturing videos of the Titan submarine shed clues into how the submarine explosion disaster may have occurred. You'll also see a simulated implosion of a metal barrel to show you how fast it can occur. Here a boat has brought the wreckage to shore and is unloading it for investigation. We hope you learned a lot from this study and analysis of the Titan submarine tour implosion.

(07-08-2023 12:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 11:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  So there is a leaked Titan to topside transcript floating around out there in the Twitterverse----so, here is a video that breaks it down. There are reasons to believe the transcript is real, and reasons to believe it is not---however---I suspect its probably real. The main reason I think its real is one of the things mentioned in the video. The deep submersible community is pretty small and tight knit. James Cameron knew they had an emergency and had dumped ballast long before the news reported it. So--there are lots of people within that community that might have had access to it and leaked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dj8IJbP41c

I just watched the whole thing. I'm skeptical by nature, but it seems legit to me. It also jives with an earlier report that the Navy heard the implosion about 1 hour and 45 minutes after the descent began.

So if true, the crew and passengers knew for about 20 minutes that they were in serious trouble before the actual implosion. Yikes.

They dropped ballast, then they actually jettisoned the frame. And they were still barely ascending at all. And hearing crackling sounds, which was probably a pinhole water leak starting the implosion.

The families of the four others who died should be suing that idiotic owner. Too bad he wasn't in the sub alone when that happened.

This makes the mothership waiting 8 hours to report they had lost communication a whole lot worse.

On another note, I wonder if James Cameron will do a movie about the Titan?

(07-08-2023 02:52 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  On another note, I wonder if James Cameron will do a movie about the Titan?

Hollywood has taken pretty much every successful franchise in the last few decades and destroyed them. I'm still waiting for the woke remake of Titanic to come out.

(07-08-2023 04:01 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 02:52 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  On another note, I wonder if James Cameron will do a movie about the Titan?

Hollywood has taken pretty much every successful franchise in the last few decades and destroyed them. I'm still waiting for the woke remake of Titanic to come out.

Let's see, Rose and Jack were really the same confused person until Rose won out by surviving and letting Jack die in the frigid water. She's pictured on a horse and by a biplane because Rose was Jack's inner woman and 1200 people died so he could find his inner strength to become her. And in the remake only white men drown. And a group of Lesbians led by Molly Brown save and groom all the young girls until rescued by a passing LGBTQ cruise ship called the Cunnilingus.

There's a theory that Jack was merely a figment of Rose's imagination or so I read somewhere.

(07-08-2023 05:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  There's a theory that Jack was merely a figment of Rose's imagination or so I read somewhere.

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(07-08-2023 05:51 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(07-08-2023 05:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  There's a theory that Jack was merely a figment of Rose's imagination or so I read somewhere.

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Well---that theory actually puts kinda interesting new spin on that movie.

(07-05-2023 02:31 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  You wouldn't make light of their death to the families' face, so why do it here?

You’re the type person who wishes toddlers Happy Birthday on Facebook, aren’t you?

(07-08-2023 12:26 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(07-07-2023 11:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  So there is a leaked Titan to topside transcript floating around out there in the Twitterverse----so, here is a video that breaks it down. There are reasons to believe the transcript is real, and reasons to believe it is not---however---I suspect its probably real. The main reason I think its real is one of the things mentioned in the video. The deep submersible community is pretty small and tight knit. James Cameron knew they had an emergency and had dumped ballast long before the news reported it. So--there are lots of people within that community that might have had access to it and leaked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dj8IJbP41c

I just watched the whole thing. I'm skeptical by nature, but it seems legit to me. It also jives with an earlier report that the Navy heard the implosion about 1 hour and 45 minutes after the descent began.

So if true, the crew and passengers knew for about 20 minutes that they were in serious trouble before the actual implosion. Yikes.

They dropped ballast, then they actually jettisoned the frame. And they were still barely ascending at all. And hearing crackling sounds, which was probably a pinhole water leak starting the implosion.

The families of the four others who died should be suing that idiotic owner. Too bad he wasn't in the sub alone when that happened.

Yeah, when you see a technician hand tightening a seal with a wrench and socket and you still go aboard you have a few loose screws yourself that should have been tightened. Just Saying!