Per Capita stats are the only way to compare a state that has 20 million and a state that has 3 million. Attacking U of Elvis over that shows a severe lack of understanding of statistics.

That being said, Mississippi has a violence problem because police control is local. A lot of cities like Jackson, Mississippi and others with very high crime rates employ catch and release policies. The governor does not control policing or prosecution in counties, nor should he. It is a local matter.

As I should in the graph for New York city-


Super red states like Wyoming and Idaho have next to no homicides in their states. Culturally mixed states have more. But, even violent cultures like New York City were brought to heel by strong policing.

Once you start putting away people for petty crimes the murder rate goes down. Because people that commit petty crime are the same people that would murder. Because petty crime shows they don't care about others much, which makes it easier for them to murder others.

In other words if you want to live in a safe area, move to a town that has a strong prosecutor. No bleeding heart catch and release policy that leads to more murders.

Your statistics would have to start with real numbers to be accurate.

Much like the Covid numbers were mostly lies, so are these.

(05-13-2023 02:26 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Your statistics would have to start with real numbers to be accurate.

Much like the Covid numbers were mostly lies, so are these.

Yes, we all know you just claim anything you don't like is fake news.

(05-13-2023 01:29 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 09:21 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 08:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 09:52 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 06:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So your thought process here is the only reason that NYC has slightly higher Murder rate than Mayberry (while still being lower than the majority of southern states averages) is politics and has nothing to do with population density.

Can you please elaborate on violent crime stats?

Because I honestly think you're a ******* idiot and don't understand, but please elaborate.

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Here are the states that have a higher murder rate than NYC :

Mississippi
Louisiana
Alabama
Missouri
Arkansas
South Carolina
Tennessee
Maryland
Illinois
New Mexico
Georgia
Delaware
Indiana
Kentucky
Ohio
Oklahoma’s
Michigan
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Florida
Texas
Arizona
Alaska
Nevada
Kansas
West Virginia
Montana
South Dakota
Virginia
California
Wisconsin
Colorado

According to an article written by Time magazine...NYC was among many metro cities that either had incomplete data or failed to report this data to the FBI in 2021. I have no idea how one could come to such data without being dishonest about the numbers. Im going to have to call fabrics on this.

It was either New York state and Califa that didn't report, or specifically NYC and LA/SFO that didn't report, I don't recall which it was.

But yes, these places in some form did not report their year end stats to the FBI or whomever. And of course it was just ignored, no one tried to compel them to that I am aware of.

UCR reporting is voluntary, why would someone compel them?

If you don't report FBI models out what they think it should be and averages it in.

But the numbers I posted didn't come from UCR.

Severe lack of common sense

(05-13-2023 02:23 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Per Capita stats are the only way to compare a state that has 20 million and a state that has 3 million. Attacking U of Elvis over that shows a severe lack of understanding of statistics.

That being said, Mississippi has a violence problem because police control is local. A lot of cities like Jackson, Mississippi and others with very high crime rates employ catch and release policies. The governor does not control policing or prosecution in counties, nor should he. It is a local matter.

As I should in the graph for New York city-


Super red states like Wyoming and Idaho have next to no homicides in their states. Culturally mixed states have more. But, even violent cultures like New York City were brought to heel by strong policing.

Once you start putting away people for petty crimes the murder rate goes down. Because people that commit petty crime are the same people that would murder. Because petty crime shows they don't care about others much, which makes it easier for them to murder others.

In other words if you want to live in a safe area, move to a town that has a strong prosecutor. No bleeding heart catch and release policy that leads to more murders.

we don't claim JXN ... it's where gerrymandering comes in handy...

disclaimer: I just spent the last couple of days fishing with li'l bubba just a tad north in Madison ... lmao

I'm pretty certain most states have that 'black sheep'...

(05-13-2023 03:02 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Severe lack of common sense

Mild retardation.

You are an idiot if you believe alabama is more dangerous than nyc

I dont need bullshite govt numbers

Some areas of Alabama are a lot more dangerous than many areas of New York.

I mean if people aren't going to debate actual statistics and facts than it's no better than the liberals I feel therefore it is.'

There are areas of Alabama so dangerous that I would rather live in if I had a choice between that and Manhattan. The difference is those are fairly small areas of Alabama. They are also cities/towns in Alabama controlled by catch and release policies which make those areas very dangerous.

(05-13-2023 03:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 03:02 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Severe lack of common sense

Mild retardation.

You are an idiot if you believe alabama is more dangerous than nyc

I dont need bullshite govt numbers

Alabama is much more dangerous than NYC, it's just that it is much safer for average citizens and much more dangerous for criminals!

(05-13-2023 11:07 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 09:21 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 08:43 AM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 09:52 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(05-12-2023 06:53 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  So your thought process here is the only reason that NYC has slightly higher Murder rate than Mayberry (while still being lower than the majority of southern states averages) is politics and has nothing to do with population density.

Can you please elaborate on violent crime stats?

Because I honestly think you're a ******* idiot and don't understand, but please elaborate.

Sent from my SM-F721U using Tapatalk

Here are the states that have a higher murder rate than NYC :

Mississippi
Louisiana
Alabama
Missouri
Arkansas
South Carolina
Tennessee
Maryland
Illinois
New Mexico
Georgia
Delaware
Indiana
Kentucky
Ohio
Oklahoma’s
Michigan
North Carolina
Pennsylvania
Florida
Texas
Arizona
Alaska
Nevada
Kansas
West Virginia
Montana
South Dakota
Virginia
California
Wisconsin
Colorado

According to an article written by Time magazine...NYC was among many metro cities that either had incomplete data or failed to report this data to the FBI in 2021. I have no idea how one could come to such data without being dishonest about the numbers. Im going to have to call fabrics on this.

The NYC data is directly reported by NYPD, the state data is from death certs.

Reporting to FBI uniform crime stats is voluntary, reporting death certificates is mandatory.

I still call fabrics.

(05-13-2023 03:02 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Severe lack of common sense

..and integrity.

The feelings over facts crowd is out in full force on both sides here.

(05-04-2023 07:06 PM)tennis2k4 Wrote:  https://nypost.com/2023/05/03/medical-ex...y-choking/
I guess it's just cool now to kill people that are angry that they are hungry and thirsty.

Died doing what he loved. Starting **** with random people on the subway. Marine punched his ticket.

(05-13-2023 03:13 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 03:02 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Severe lack of common sense

Mild retardation.

You are an idiot if you believe alabama is more dangerous than nyc

I dont need bullshite govt numbers

If you subtract the 213 murders in the county that Birmingham is in (without even taking out the population) the 2021 murder rate in Alabama is still double NYC.

748 murders, take 213 out and with a 5 million population the rate per 100k is still just over 10.

Edit - if I take Jefferson County (213) and Montgomery (77) and subtract both the murders and the population the Alabama murder rate is still over 10 per 100k so double NYC.

So the 15 minute bullshhite came from the filths attorney and is a lie

Not surprised. Well done penis2k4

(05-13-2023 02:44 PM)U_of_Elvis Wrote:  

(05-13-2023 02:26 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Your statistics would have to start with real numbers to be accurate.

Much like the Covid numbers were mostly lies, so are these.

Yes, we all know you just claim anything you don't like is fake news.

You should take your own advice as well..