John Martin had the perfect time to ask him about his remarks he made about Silverfield on the "embarrassing" quote toward Memphis. Unfortunately, John is to politically correct.

He says all of this on one of our local networks. Never hear him say anything positive about us on his national show.

(04-08-2023 03:13 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  John Martin had the perfect time to ask him about his remarks he made about Silverfield on the "embarrassing" quote toward Memphis. Unfortunately, John is to politically correct.

what did he say? Link?

Link is in the first post.

(04-08-2023 03:13 PM)TigersTigers Wrote:  John Martin had the perfect time to ask him about his remarks he made about Silverfield on the "embarrassing" quote toward Memphis. Unfortunately, John is to politically correct.

The timing of the interview was perfect for Paul to call Memphis an "embarrassing program." We only had 3 wins in October/November, the two of the three wins are against FBS programs that combined for 8 wins, and the FCS program that we defeated was one of the worst FCS programs in the country.
Got blown out by Tulane in a much win situation (yes, I know we snuck in the back door and kept things respectable, but still). The product on the field is not an entertaining product, and only one player will probably get drafted in the NFL. You add all of those ingredients compared to what Norvell did, and that will result in what Finebaum said, "embarrassing."

(04-07-2023 05:05 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:06 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  how old is this podcast

This was yesterday.

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(04-10-2023 02:43 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 05:05 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:06 AM)k2tigers Wrote:  how old is this podcast

This was yesterday.

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It was when he posted his reply. Did you even open the link? It says "Published Apr 6, 2023, 8:35 PM" right there on the page.

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

You are completely wrong. Many Memphians on this board hate Memphis. They think it is the worst place in the world, and when it comes to realignment, behind Rice, UConn, FAU, UTSA, Colorado State, Louisiana Tech...literally everyone.

(04-10-2023 05:15 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

You are completely wrong. Many Memphians on this board hate Memphis. They think it is the worst place in the world, and when it comes to realignment, behind Rice, UConn, FAU, UTSA, Colorado State, Louisiana Tech...literally everyone.

Lol! That is insane. But Cincinnati fans had the same issues in a way after the Big East collapsed. I still think that Memphis' times will come. I would still keep an eye on a rebuilt Pac-12. I still think that if the Big 12 successfully grabs the Four Corner schools and even if Oregon and Washington leave, Oregon State and Washington State can expand and maintain A5 status. Because of the way the contract is written it is next to impossible to strip A5 status away from a conference without a complete and utter overhaul of the system which can cause a ton of issues, especially legally.

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Too many Memphians think that the rest of the country looks down on Memphis because it has crime and poverty. In reality, every city in this country has crime and poverty, and no one is looking down on Memphis because of it.

(04-10-2023 07:05 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Too many Memphians think that the rest of the country looks down on Memphis because it has crime and poverty. In reality, every city in this country has crime and poverty, and no one is looking down on Memphis because of it.

Why do people continue to come up with these crazy reasons why our university hasn't moved up? Since the '60s when our AD annually was invited & attended the SEC meetings & beyond to include most current B12 feedback, the consistent reason noted for our university being passed over was a failure to invest in our FB facilities. Just remember this is a comparative judgement versus other considered programs. And in the most recent comparisons, have we invested more than Cincy, UCF or UH over the last 10 years? The clear answer is no. I'm guessing if we had funding & had been moving forward on LB renovations prior to the last B12 expansion we probably would have replaced UH (JMO).

(04-11-2023 06:30 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 07:05 PM)MemphisFootballFan Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

Thank you for sharing your perspective. Too many Memphians think that the rest of the country looks down on Memphis because it has crime and poverty. In reality, every city in this country has crime and poverty, and no one is looking down on Memphis because of it.

Why do people continue to come up with these crazy reasons why our university hasn't moved up? Since the '60s when our AD annually was invited & attended the SEC meetings & beyond to include most current B12 feedback, the consistent reason noted for our university being passed over was a failure to invest in our FB facilities. Just remember this is a comparative judgement versus other considered programs. And in the most recent comparisons, have we invested more than Cincy, UCF or UH over the last 10 years? The clear answer is no. I'm guessing if we had funding & had been moving forward on LB renovations prior to the last B12 expansion we probably would have replaced UH (JMO).

This is correct. Every single school that has moved up from G5 to P5 has invested heavily in football for a longer period of time than we have (Louisville, TCU, Utah, Cincy, UCF, even Houston). Our school's commitment to football is relatively new. You can't make up for over 30 years of neglect in 8 years. We are on the right track. The $200M stadium renovations will help a lot. It would also help if we won the conference championship this season and dominated this league for the next few years.

PF only says things to piss people off and denigrate other conferences not named SEC.

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

My man I love Memphis, always have and always will. But I'm also not going to lie and deceive myself about it. That is exactly how a lot of people see the city and I have heard people in other conferences many, many times point to those things when this comes up. Is that the sole reason? No but it does play a sizable role.

I fully understand its going to anger some people and some posters are going to lash out over it and I fully understand why.

(04-11-2023 06:51 AM)ImaTiger Wrote:  PF only says things to piss people off and denigrate other conferences not named SEC.

He is nothing if not an SEC nutt hugger.

(04-11-2023 07:07 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-10-2023 04:33 PM)CatsClaw1 Wrote:  

(04-07-2023 11:02 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  I think its a tired and way overused excuse in 2023, but in this case I really do think race plays a role. Memphis is seen as a black city with a lot of violence and the B12 just wants to avoid it even though all the other metrics scream that we should be in.

I don't think the B12 just doesn't want blacks in general, it just the image of the city is really bad because of the crime and the university's image is tied directly to the city.

As he was saying it just doesn't make any sense and the numbers just don't add up. There is something else keeping this from happening and I think its the reputation of the city and university with outsiders. I've heard all the other arguments here a millions times and I just don't buy that they are enough to be the reason why.

I had to step in and say that I have never seen a dumber post than this. Nobody sees the Big 12 or Memphis the way this twisted post sees them.

My man I love Memphis, always have and always will. But I'm also not going to lie and deceive myself about it. That is exactly how a lot of people see the city and I have heard people in other conferences many, many times point to those things when this comes up. Is that the sole reason? No but it does play a sizable role.

I fully understand its going to anger some people and some posters are going to lash out over it and I fully understand why.

Yep. Hard to get through to folks like MFF.