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(01-05-2023 01:39 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status..._ay9ssAAAA

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https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...may-think/

(01-05-2023 01:44 PM)HawaiiMongoose Wrote:  

(01-05-2023 01:39 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status..._ay9ssAAAA

Direct link to article:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...may-think/

Still think it goes to 24 sooner than later assuming the CCG's remain in place.

Having lower-ranked teams get a week off while their higher-ranked conference mates have to play a game isn't gonna fly for long if at all

Feels like Dodd clickbait. 16 isn't likely this decade

Honestly, going to 16 always made more sense to me than 12. A 16 team playoff offers more content and revenue than a 12 team playoff. One of the biggest concerns has always been the time window available to complete the playoff. If your going to go to 12---then the time window required for 12 (4 rounds) is EXACTLY the same as the time window required for 16 (4 rounds)---so, why not maximize the revenue derived from that 4 round time window? More football. More inclusion. More fan bases involved. More interest. More viewers. More money.

16? I'd be shocked if the playoff isn't at least at 24 within the next 20 years.

(01-05-2023 01:39 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  https://twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs/status..._ay9ssAAAA

Interesting unrelated quote:

""...I certainly think it's hard to play quality defense anymore," Georgia coach Kirby Smart added, "... And it seems that tackling becomes worse as the season goes on....""

(01-05-2023 02:01 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Feels like Dodd clickbait. 16 isn't likely this decade

It isn't clear how long the upcoming playoff contract is going to last.

I very strongly suspect that the playoff will be expanded to at least 24 whenever the contract ends. The contract will probably be at the very least five years, which would mean it would end after 2029. That would mean the 24+ team playoff would begin at the start of next decade.

(01-05-2023 02:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Honestly, going to 16 always made more sense to me than 12. A 16 team playoff offers more content and revenue than a 12 team playoff. One of the biggest concerns has always been the time window available to complete the playoff. If your going to go to 12---then the time window required for 12 (4 rounds) is EXACTLY the same as the time window required for 16 (4 rounds)---so, why not maximize the revenue derived from that 4 round time window? More football. More inclusion. More fan bases involved. More interest. More viewers. More money.

The conference champion incentives are pretty sweet in the 12-school model.

I think there's a high probability the CFP will expand to 16 teams for the 2026 season when the contract comes up for bid.

The only question is format. You can be sure the G5 conferences will be lobbying hard for an 8+8 format.

24 teams, including 10 conference champions. We might have to trim the regular season from 12 games to 11 (taking away a non-conference game), but it would be better for the sport.

(01-05-2023 02:29 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  I think there's a high probability the CFP will expand to 16 teams for the 2026 season when the contract comes up for bid.

The only question is format. You can be sure the G5 conferences will be lobbying hard for an 8+8 format.

An 8+8 format would be much more comparable to the NCAA tournament, which has 32 conference champions and 36 at-large teams (32 in the first full round).

The NCAA tournament may be the ideal model to strive for, given how incredibly successful it has been from a viewership standpoint.

A 8+8 model in 2022 would have included the top 13 teams in the CFP plus (11-2; #14) Tulane, (11-2) UTSA, and (11-2) Troy.

By conf: SEC (3), B1G (3), PAC (3), B12 (2), ACC (2), AAC (1), CUSA (1), SBC (1)

A 6+10 model would - according to the article - have included the top 13 teams in the CFP plus (11-2; #14) Tulane, "...Oregon (9-3), and Oregon State (9-3)."

By conference: SEC (3), B1G (3), PAC (5), B12 (2), ACC (2), AAC (1)

Of the two models, the 8+8 model would be a lot more inclusive and thus more representative of the 132 FBS teams as a whole. It would come closer to emulating the NCAA tournament, by virtue of including more "Cinderella" teams in the field.

Arguably, the inclusion of the many "Cinderella" teams in the NCAA tournament is one of the main reasons why that tournament has become one of the nation's top athletic events.

MOAR GAMES!!!! Especially after what just transpired in an NFL game. Unbelievable.

(01-05-2023 02:29 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  I think there's a high probability the CFP will expand to 16 teams for the 2026 season when the contract comes up for bid.

The only question is format. You can be sure the G5 conferences will be lobbying hard for an 8+8 format.

Yeah, they might even go straight to 16 in 2026.

But even that'll just be a temporary thing before they go to 24, 32 or possibly even 64 by the end of the 2030s.

You have to be a complete idiot to think that they'll ultimately stop the playoffs at 12 or 16.

I'd like to see how 12 works out before we go to 16.

I like 12 a lot, gives an incentive to finish strong and win the conference championship.

I would hate to see 1-loss teams rest their starters in week 11 or 12 because they already locked in a CFP spot.

It’s a big no to 16 for me. Removing the first round bye removes all incentive to try in the CCGs. Frankly 12 is too many. 8 would be better.

Yes! More is always better!
By this logic if 12>4 then 16>12, 32>16, 64>32, and 128>64. Only 3 teams will miss the playoffs. But they could also expand FBS and add 125 teams for a 256 team playoff.

Basketball tourney is too big and devalues the regular season.

Football regular season money is bigger than basketball regular season money. They aren't going to kill the golden goose by over-expanding. It will be a very long time, if ever, before they go beyond 16. And I don't think they will go to 16 until they have seen the impact of 12. They aren't playing with house money. They are risking the money factory.

(01-05-2023 04:03 PM)Scoochpooch1 Wrote:  Yes! More is always better!
By this logic if 12>4 then 16>12, 32>16, 64>32, and 128>64. Only 3 teams will miss the playoffs. But they could also expand FBS and add 125 teams for a 256 team playoff.

Finally, a path to the playoffs for UMass.

(01-05-2023 04:01 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  It’s a big no to 16 for me. Removing the first round bye removes all incentive to try in the CCGs. Frankly 12 is too many. 8 would be better.

Player safety and the number of games and plays are real concerns. Replace the CCG with the expanded CFP or merge the CCGs into the structure somehow.

The trend already is to pair the top-2 conference teams in the CCG, instead of division winners, so as to maximize the likelihood that your champ gets into the CFP. Instead, go right into the knockout games after the regular season.