The lack of any news at all is not good in my estimation.

(01-02-2023 10:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  I'm afraid he's dead.

The coverage is following the same pattern used when Dale Earnhardt passed

I’m afraid you are right. Wasn’t breathing on his own in the ambulance but had a pulse. Very ominous. My prayers go out to this man and his family.

(01-02-2023 10:50 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  The lack of any news at all is not good in my estimation.

It isn't. I think a lot of formalities are likely proceeding. Giving the family time to reach people. Deciding who will announce it and how will take some time.

I would estimate we hear by midnight Eastern time.

Jordon Rooney
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Update on Damar:

His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests.

We will provide updates as we have them.
Jordon Rooney
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Source is me - His friend and marketing rep.

(01-02-2023 11:00 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  Jordon Rooney
@jordonr
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Update on Damar:

His vitals are back to normal and they have put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat. They are currently running tests.

We will provide updates as we have them.
Jordon Rooney
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Source is me - His friend and marketing rep.

He's supposed to be employed by the agency that represents Hamlin so it definitely seems legit.

Far from out of the woods, but encouraging to see some improvement. Hope he continues to recover.

If vitals are stable you don’t insert a breathing tube.

Watching it live it reminded me of Hank Gathers that played for Loyola Marymount

(01-02-2023 10:20 PM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  

(01-02-2023 10:14 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  

(01-02-2023 10:12 PM)fsquid Wrote:  The first thing you think of is the shot?

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Squid, I agree with concern over the shot. Myocarditis is a known issue in younger folks after getting the jab. Hope that is not the case here, but it is a very reasonable concern.

I agree about it being a reasonable concern. However, from the replays I saw, it looks like there was a lot of sudden force applied to his chest from Tye Higgins' helmet. I remember watching something on TV several years ago that demonstrated that if you put enough force on the human heart in one instance, you can actually stop it. I know that wasn't what Higgins was trying to do so I'm not blaming him at all. Just a crazy sequence of events.

Some cop show did that although I think it was limited to teenagers. The murderer ended up being a girl who hit the guy once in the chest.

This could be due to anything. The guy was a defensive player.

(01-02-2023 11:15 PM)No Bull Wrote:  If vitals are stable you don’t insert a breathing tube.

Not true.
In the case of a cardiac arrest we use "Targeted Temperature Management" TTM. This is to decrease their temperature to 92-94 degrees to decrease metabolic use and decrease stress on the heart and decrease potential damage to the heart from the injury.
We intubate, sedate and chemically paralyze the patient to keep them from moving and increase their HR and temperature.
This usually last for 36-48 hours.

Source: critical care nurse >30 years...Me. :)

People are talking about the hit he took to the chest but there was nothing unusual there at all. It was a typical NFL collision.

Guys have taken harder hits than that to the chest.

We all possibly just watched a myocarditis event in real time on national TV. This is exactly what the Florida Surgeon General warned of for otherwise healthy men under 40 and the governmental media complex freaked out over. The entire thing is terrible.

Myocarditis is a normally a chronic inflammation issue. It would not usually cause an acute event like this.

You can bet your sweet bippy that the NFL will not let it be due to anything vaccine or Covid related.

Regular myocarditis or the type that has been quietly popping up the past two years with young athletes collapsing due to it? The information on this will be massaged like everything is. We are all just goldfish at media feeding time.

According to an article in the journal "Circulation" ~5% of out of hospital sudden cardiac deaths can be due to myocarditis.

Quote:Acute myocarditis, the first type, occurs most frequently in children or young adults. The diagnosis is likely to be overlooked because of the frequent lack of symptoms. When present, symptoms are not specific; they suggest a bad cold in most instances. The heart is grossly normal. In particular, it is not enlarged. Myocyte necrosis and inflammatory infiltrates, predominantly composed of lymphocytes, are present, but they are most frequently patchy rather than diffuse (American Academy of Forensic Sciences, Orlando, Fla, personal communication, 1999). Therefore, multiple myocardial samples are required for the diagnosis.

The second pattern is chronic myocarditis, which also involves young adults.2 The heart is again grossly normal. Histological examination of both ventricles shows patchy areas of fibrosis. In some sections, small clusters of lymphocytes may be present. These victims have no history of drug abuse, and toxicological analyses are negative. Viral infection is likely to be involved in most cases of both acute and chronic myocarditis

Per AHA

Unfortunately, with the state of politicized "science" nowadays, we will never know the truth, nor believe it when we see it.. :/

It's not just viral infection...it's often an imuno-response...now wonder what happens to some folks' imuno response when you inject something like Phizer's trillion dollar baby?

No matter the number or percentage it is way too much for otherwise healthy people who were likely coerced into getting a shot they frankly didn't need

I'm not saying this is what it was last night. I'm saying it fits the terrible pattern that has been reported widely yet actively quashed by the media and elected officials and the people they appoint to careers.

Everyone, it is most likely commotio cordis. I posted a video of a sports doctor explaining this very phenomenon. Enough with the "but the vaccine did it" bullcrap! To speculate that the vaccine is to blame for this horrific on-the-field incident is below all of us! A man is fighting for his life right now. We should be praying for a swift recovery, not placing blame at anything. (Now if it turns out the vaccine did play a role, fine. I'll do an about face. Even still, the doctor in the video explains how commotio cordis can occur, which can happen to someone in perfectly good health!)

(rath: Thank you for clarifying your statement. Still, I feel it's best that we hold off on the speculation about the COVID vaccine causing this whole unfortunate incident.)

At any rate, here's the latest that we know: the Buffalo Bills released a statement saying Hamlin went into sudden cardiac arrest after the play in which he tackled Bengals WR Tee Higgins was over. They successfully resuscitated him, but had to administer CPR in order to do so. He's in critical condition at the University of Cincinnati Hospital, a Level 1 trauma center. As for the game itself, it has been postponed for the time being.

Not saying your wrong, but how many millions of hits have we seen in high school,college and pro sports (Football, hockey, lacrosse, soccer, basketball, field hockey) and this is the first time it has happened....

Unfortunately, in the times we live, 45% of us will not believe whatever reason is given..

(01-03-2023 07:55 AM)GeminiCoog Wrote:  Everyone, it is most likely commotio cordis. I posted a video of a sports doctor explaining this very phenomenon. Enough with the "but the vaccine did it" bullcrap! To speculate that the vaccine is to blame for this horrific on-the-field incident is below all of us! A man is fighting for his life right now. We should be praying for a swift recovery, not placing blame at anything. (Now if it turns out the vaccine did play a role, fine. I'll do an about face. Even still, the doctor in the video explains how commotio cordis can occur, which can happen to someone in perfectly good health!)

(rath: Thank you for clarifying your statement. Still, I feel it's best that we hold off on the speculation about the COVID vaccine causing this whole unfortunate incident.)

At any rate, here's the latest that we know: the Buffalo Bills released a statement saying Hamlin went into sudden cardiac arrest after the play in which he tackled Bengals WR Tee Higgins was over. They successfully resuscitated him, but had to administer CPR in order to do so. He's in critical condition at the University of Cincinnati Hospital, a Level 1 trauma center. As for the game itself, it has been postponed for the time being.

I don't fully buy that its just a case of commotio cordis. I understand the idea and reasoning behind that, but why then why is it not more common in the NFL? They may diagnose it as such but its was a pretty common NFL hit for the guy to have a sudden cardiac arrest. We have seen much harder and more violent hits to the chest countless times for decades and this never happened.

It may be the guy has an undetected medical condition that made him more vulnerable or something. It could be a million things at this point and they may never even know fully what the situation was even if they make a final diagnosis.

(01-02-2023 11:15 PM)No Bull Wrote:  If vitals are stable you don’t insert a breathing tube.

sure you do. My MIL had breathing tube for 4 days after suffering sudden cardiac arrest in her sleep this past September. Vitals were back to normal but they kept her under and sedated with the tube in until they had a better idea what caused it. They still don't know, she's a healthy 58 year old that walks 3-5 miles a day.