(03-03-2023 12:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  at this point even losing out i think memphis is cliched its tournament berth...and everyone else is guaranteed not in..and with ucfs loss today, NIT isnt even on the table for the rest...

this will the be 1st stress-free aac tournament/end of the season i believe in history, where the last few games dont really matter beyond traditional bid stealing

Agree. Houston is a lock for a 1 seed. Memphis playing for seeding.

Everybody else is playing for temporary glory.

I won’t root for the tigers to lose but as far as seeding… I imagine it’s Better for us to lose to Houston and avoid the 8/9. Beating houston twice should earn us a 7 maybe 6 if our wins that are toeing the q2/1 line can move up but we know the brackets would be set before our finals match

(03-02-2023 09:18 PM)pesik Wrote:  aaron mckie enough to not get fired.. but no wining enough to accomplish anything..

when its looking likely that temple's roster will implode in the offseason

Miller
White
Jourdain
Reynolds
Hicks
Thweatt
Stanford incoming

Should all return.

We'll see about Dunn, Dezonie, Okpomo, Roberts

We definitely need more scoring, especially if Dunn leaves, but we have a pretty good core, so I'm not sure how our roster is imploding. Get a PF, another PG, and a wing with any of them about to shoot and we're in a pretty good spot.

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:18 PM)pesik Wrote:  aaron mckie enough to not get fired.. but no wining enough to accomplish anything..

when its looking likely that temple's roster will implode in the offseason

Miller
White
Jourdain
Reynolds
Hicks
Thweatt
Stanford incoming

Should all return.

We'll see about Dunn, Dezonie, Okpomo, Roberts

We definitely need more scoring, especially if Dunn leaves, but we have a pretty good core, so I'm not sure how our roster is imploding. Get a PF, another PG, and a wing with any of them about to shoot and we're in a pretty good spot.

"good spot"?

likely starting 5:
-Miller
-White
-Hicks
-Jourdain
-Reynolds

Thweatt
Stanford incoming

.. you might take this the wrong way, im not trying to make a jab, genuinely curious... but do you not want temple to return to be being a regular tournament team?
a case could be made that with a good portal additions temple wont fall off too bad... the issue= temple isnt remotely close to a tournament team this year.. the issue isnt not falling off too much but that you needed to get drastically better

and i know you hate when i say this but mckie for an nba guy is really bad at bringing touted guys in to fill the spot off dunn/battle to hold position

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)Fluke Wrote:  I won’t root for the tigers to lose but as far as seeding… I imagine it’s Better for us to lose to Houston and avoid the 8/9. Beating houston twice should earn us a 7 maybe 6 if our wins that are toeing the q2/1 line can move up but we know the brackets would be set before our finals match

this is putting the cart before the horse.. you are worried about the rounf of 32 game ignoring the round of 64

youd rather play 2 top 25 teams (in a single elimination tournament).. than another barely qualified team and a 1/2 seed...i think tis better to get past the 1st and then put energy into the second for an upset

(03-03-2023 01:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:18 PM)pesik Wrote:  aaron mckie enough to not get fired.. but no wining enough to accomplish anything..

when its looking likely that temple's roster will implode in the offseason

Miller
White
Jourdain
Reynolds
Hicks
Thweatt
Stanford incoming

Should all return.

We'll see about Dunn, Dezonie, Okpomo, Roberts

We definitely need more scoring, especially if Dunn leaves, but we have a pretty good core, so I'm not sure how our roster is imploding. Get a PF, another PG, and a wing with any of them about to shoot and we're in a pretty good spot.

"good spot"?

likely starting 5:
-Miller
-White
-Hicks
-Jourdain
-Reynolds

Thweatt
Stanford incoming

.. you might take this the wrong way, im not trying to make a jab, genuinely curious... but do you not want temple to return to be being a regular tournament team?
a case could be made that with a good portal additions temple wont fall off too bad... the issue= temple isnt remotely close to a tournament team this year.. the issue isnt not falling off too much but that you needed to get drastically better

and i know you hate when i say this but mckie for an nba is really bad at bringing touted guys in to fill the spot off dunn/battle to hold position

Again, Dunn hasn't left yet.

Yes, I think we if do well in the portal, we're in a good spot next year.

(03-03-2023 12:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  at this point even losing out i think memphis is cliched its tournament berth...and everyone else is guaranteed not in..and with ucfs loss today, NIT isnt even on the table for the rest...

this will the be 1st stress-free aac tournament/end of the season i believe in history, where the last few games dont really matter beyond traditional bid stealing

NIT is still very much on the table for UC. Not sure it matters a whole ton, but it’s very much in play. NIT projections are very hard to come by, but of the two that do it, DRATINGS has UC as the third 5 seed, and Barking Crow (who apparently takes the NIT stuff VERY seriously) has UC as first team out.

Point being, for better or worse, it’s on the table for UC though far from a guarantee.

(03-03-2023 01:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)Fluke Wrote:  I won’t root for the tigers to lose but as far as seeding… I imagine it’s Better for us to lose to Houston and avoid the 8/9. Beating houston twice should earn us a 7 maybe 6 if our wins that are toeing the q2/1 line can move up but we know the brackets would be set before our finals match

this is putting the cart before the horse.. you are worried about the rounf of 32 game ignoring the round of 64

youd rather play 2 top 25 teams (in a single elimination tournament).. than another barely qualified team and a 1/2 seed...i think tis better to get past the 1st and then put energy into the second for an upset

I’m just not scared of a 7 seed. Of course we could lose to them but I don’t think it’s any more likely than us losing in the 8/9. It would give us a much better shot at the second weekend. Historically a 10 seed has a 16% chance to make the s16. A 9 seed is 5%. If you have me a Choice i would take the 10 seed every day.

When you are talking the difference of the first round team being ranked 25-30 vs 30-35 it’s really just going to depend more on matchups than anything but there is usually a huge falloff between the top handful of 1 seeds and the field. Like last year had we not gotten Gonzaga in the second game.

(03-03-2023 01:19 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)JHG722 Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:18 PM)pesik Wrote:  aaron mckie enough to not get fired.. but no wining enough to accomplish anything..

when its looking likely that temple's roster will implode in the offseason

Miller
White
Jourdain
Reynolds
Hicks
Thweatt
Stanford incoming

Should all return.

We'll see about Dunn, Dezonie, Okpomo, Roberts

We definitely need more scoring, especially if Dunn leaves, but we have a pretty good core, so I'm not sure how our roster is imploding. Get a PF, another PG, and a wing with any of them about to shoot and we're in a pretty good spot.

"good spot"?

likely starting 5:
-Miller
-White
-Hicks
-Jourdain
-Reynolds

Thweatt
Stanford incoming

.. you might take this the wrong way, im not trying to make a jab, genuinely curious... but do you not want temple to return to be being a regular tournament team?
a case could be made that with a good portal additions temple wont fall off too bad... the issue= temple isnt remotely close to a tournament team this year.. the issue isnt not falling off too much but that you needed to get drastically better

and i know you hate when i say this but mckie for an nba is really bad at bringing touted guys in to fill the spot off dunn/battle to hold position

Was good enough to beat Houston at home. YES, but plenty of work to do.

(03-03-2023 12:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  at this point even losing out i think memphis is cliched its tournament berth...and everyone else is guaranteed not in..and with ucfs loss today, NIT isnt even on the table for the rest...

this will the be 1st stress-free aac tournament/end of the season i believe in history, where the last few games dont really matter beyond traditional bid stealing

Agree. Houston is a lock for a 1 seed. Memphis playing for seeding.

Everybody else is playing for temporary glory.

Wichita gonna make a run and steal the auto bid...

Though to be honest ... if WSU wins Sunday, there is a chance WSU could get Tulsa then Tulane. I like that path to Saturday for WSU. Don't know if WSU has the legs for 4 games in 4 days .. but they have been playing better as of late if they have everyone healthy and can stay out of foul trouble.

(03-01-2023 11:23 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Great win

Maybe the best all around performance Ive seen from any ECU team in decades. I really like our coach. I think if given time and not taken away from the program he has a chance to do some great things. I find it hard to believe we will keep this guy very long. When Barnes retires at UT?...He gone.

(03-02-2023 09:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  A “rebuild” requires something to have actually been built, and this rebuild year we’ve already matched the overall win total and conference win total with 2 more games and the tournament to go, all with our best player being out since early January. ECU fans tried to say Suggs missing 5 games derailed the whole season, Schwartz and company have been dealing with a far more crippling injury for longer and didn’t fall apart. Even if Newton stayed Dooley wouldn’t have accomplished jack crap. He took a team with Newton and Gardner and turned it into a last place finish, why all of a sudden would he have achieved anything?

my point was that you had to find out...again on paper could hve been the best roster in ecu history in regards to ceiling
there was no rush...no one was after schwartz...

Except the realities of Dooley’s contract required a real decision. Either had to extend him or pay him a 250k bonus on June 1 to be a lame duck coach. Either of those options with his resume were moronic. He accomplished nothing with better high end talent than we’d have had even if Newton had come back. You openly admit Dooley’s ceiling was low, and his proven floor was also garbage it’s not like he had gotten us to like the 120s range and we were risking something by firing him. If it failed we went from a near 200s team to essentially the exact same level of trash.

(03-03-2023 10:07 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(03-01-2023 11:23 PM)CLTPirate Wrote:  Great win

Maybe the best all around performance Ive seen from any ECU team in decades. I really like our coach. I think if given time and not taken away from the program he has a chance to do some great things. I find it hard to believe we will keep this guy very long. When Barnes retires at UT?...He gone.

Ain’t no one hiring him without making an NCAA tournament, and if he does that I’ll drive him to the airport.

(03-03-2023 10:27 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-02-2023 09:04 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  A “rebuild” requires something to have actually been built, and this rebuild year we’ve already matched the overall win total and conference win total with 2 more games and the tournament to go, all with our best player being out since early January. ECU fans tried to say Suggs missing 5 games derailed the whole season, Schwartz and company have been dealing with a far more crippling injury for longer and didn’t fall apart. Even if Newton stayed Dooley wouldn’t have accomplished jack crap. He took a team with Newton and Gardner and turned it into a last place finish, why all of a sudden would he have achieved anything?

my point was that you had to find out...again on paper could hve been the best roster in ecu history in regards to ceiling
there was no rush...no one was after schwartz...

Except the realities of Dooley’s contract required a real decision. Either had to extend him or pay him a 250k bonus on June 1 to be a lame duck coach. Either of those options with his resume were moronic. He accomplished nothing with better high end talent than we’d have had even if Newton had come back. You openly admit Dooley’s ceiling was low, and his proven floor was also garbage it’s not like he had gotten us to like the 120s range and we were risking something by firing him. If it failed we went from a near 200s team to essentially the exact same level of trash.

you don't like dooley so you wont accept the reason

dooleys ceiling is low, he was never going to get ecu 3 back to back s16 or whatever .. but the bar and track record for ecu was low.. since the inception of ecu ball youve nwever had a great team, thats in close to 70years.. imploding what could have been your best ever team to go through another multiyear rebuild ..

you are theoretically saying he would have been trash.. but for a chance at great id take that chance and then switch based on the result
no one saw tulane having a historic football season after 2-10 last year and a sub .500 in fritz 7 years prior.. but things sometimes allign

(03-03-2023 10:04 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:44 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  at this point even losing out i think memphis is cliched its tournament berth...and everyone else is guaranteed not in..and with ucfs loss today, NIT isnt even on the table for the rest...

this will the be 1st stress-free aac tournament/end of the season i believe in history, where the last few games dont really matter beyond traditional bid stealing

Agree. Houston is a lock for a 1 seed. Memphis playing for seeding.

Everybody else is playing for temporary glory.

Wichita gonna make a run and steal the auto bid...

Though to be honest ... if WSU wins Sunday, there is a chance WSU could get Tulsa then Tulane. I like that path to Saturday for WSU. Don't know if WSU has the legs for 4 games in 4 days .. but they have been playing better as of late if they have everyone healthy and can stay out of foul trouble.

I'd be okay with that. In fact, I like Wichita going forward. I'm hoping you jump back up to glory again like the not-so-old days so we can carry on a real rivalry.

According to a Memphis newspaper columnist, the Memphis/Houston game is almost sold out.

(03-03-2023 12:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  at this point even losing out i think memphis is cliched its tournament berth...and everyone else is guaranteed not in..and with ucfs loss today, NIT isnt even on the table for the rest...

this will the be 1st stress-free aac tournament/end of the season i believe in history, where the last few games dont really matter beyond traditional bid stealing

Last season, the lowest at-large NIT bid awarded was ranked 76th in NET. UCF and Cincy are on the NIT bubble.

(03-03-2023 01:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)Fluke Wrote:  I won’t root for the tigers to lose but as far as seeding… I imagine it’s Better for us to lose to Houston and avoid the 8/9. Beating houston twice should earn us a 7 maybe 6 if our wins that are toeing the q2/1 line can move up but we know the brackets would be set before our finals match

this is putting the cart before the horse.. you are worried about the rounf of 32 game ignoring the round of 64

youd rather play 2 top 25 teams (in a single elimination tournament).. than another barely qualified team and a 1/2 seed...i think tis better to get past the 1st and then put energy into the second for an upset

For such a condescending weirdo you can't understand simple concepts like "I don't want to play potentially the #1 overall seed before the Sweet 16."

I want to beat Houston twice, win the tourney, have Cincy sneak up in the NET so we have another Q1 win, all that good stuff. Could be a 7 or better then. But when it comes to seeding, I want 7/10 over 8/9 any day and it's not a remotely controversial opinion.

(03-03-2023 01:56 PM)Psicosis Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 01:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(03-03-2023 12:47 AM)Fluke Wrote:  I won’t root for the tigers to lose but as far as seeding… I imagine it’s Better for us to lose to Houston and avoid the 8/9. Beating houston twice should earn us a 7 maybe 6 if our wins that are toeing the q2/1 line can move up but we know the brackets would be set before our finals match

this is putting the cart before the horse.. you are worried about the rounf of 32 game ignoring the round of 64

youd rather play 2 top 25 teams (in a single elimination tournament).. than another barely qualified team and a 1/2 seed...i think tis better to get past the 1st and then put energy into the second for an upset

For such a condescending weirdo you can't understand simple concepts like "I don't want to play potentially the #1 overall seed before the Sweet 16."

I want to beat Houston twice, win the tourney, have Cincy sneak up in the NET so we have another Q1 win, all that good stuff. Could be a 7 or better then. But when it comes to seeding, I want 7/10 over 8/9 any day and it's not a remotely controversial opinion.

sweet another memphis homer, who loves to attack people for not having homer memphis takes...

most of my post normally respond to condescending posters which if i cared enough seemd like the kind of weirdo posts youd make,

you missed my entire point and literally harping on the point i made... you are worried about the sweet 16 ...like you are Cruzing through the round of 64 either option..as an 11/10 seed you have a monster upset just get past round 1.. you feel confidence is your chances to beat houston a 1 seed, but trying to avoid 1 seed. there is no unbeatable 1 seed this year

Kentucky/michigan st then ucla - as a 10 seed
or fau/missouri, then purdue as a 9 seed

the other memphis fan did bring up a good counter about percentages.. but i think on the average years the 1 seed were stronger

purude guard core is all freshmen.. it about dealing with edey (purdue has lost 4 of its last 7 games).. kansas has no center and only 1 top tier shooter.. they are winning a ton but the games are all super close

Sorry I don't read unhinged screeds