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RE: D1 losses to non D1 teams
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(11-08-2022 01:25 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  The game still happened.

So did NFL preseason games. How are they relevant now?

If NFL preseason games were played against college teams, and the college team won, THEN your question would be comparing apples to apples.

It's more like if you challenged someone to a pickup game, lost the game, cried about it not counting because it wasn't an official game, and yelled how you're still better than the person who just beat you.

You still lost. So yes, Lenoir-Rhyne beating Louisville happened, and the suggestion that it didn't is a ridiculous statement rooted in elitism ("I'm better than you, no matter what").


Also, Louisville reports it on their official site, so it counts to them: https://gocards.com/sports/mens-basketba...le/2022-23

It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.



What real difference is there between exhibition games and non-exhibition games? That the NCAA tournament selection committee in theory isn't supposed to consider exhibition games? That's about it.

The NFL preseason is different because the NFL has playoff bids that are decided solely by team records. NFL teams don't have to try in the preseason in order to impress some selection committee that basically can consider whatever the hell they want.
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RE: D1 losses to non D1 teams
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(11-08-2022 01:59 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  So did NFL preseason games. How are they relevant now?

If NFL preseason games were played against college teams, and the college team won, THEN your question would be comparing apples to apples.

It's more like if you challenged someone to a pickup game, lost the game, cried about it not counting because it wasn't an official game, and yelled how you're still better than the person who just beat you.

You still lost. So yes, Lenoir-Rhyne beating Louisville happened, and the suggestion that it didn't is a ridiculous statement rooted in elitism ("I'm better than you, no matter what").


Also, Louisville reports it on their official site, so it counts to them: https://gocards.com/sports/mens-basketba...le/2022-23

It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.
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(11-08-2022 02:19 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  If NFL preseason games were played against college teams, and the college team won, THEN your question would be comparing apples to apples.

It's more like if you challenged someone to a pickup game, lost the game, cried about it not counting because it wasn't an official game, and yelled how you're still better than the person who just beat you.

You still lost. So yes, Lenoir-Rhyne beating Louisville happened, and the suggestion that it didn't is a ridiculous statement rooted in elitism ("I'm better than you, no matter what").


Also, Louisville reports it on their official site, so it counts to them: https://gocards.com/sports/mens-basketba...le/2022-23

It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.
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RE: D1 losses to non D1 teams
(11-08-2022 06:44 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 03:45 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 03:39 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 03:30 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  It's more like if you challenged someone to a pickup game, lost the game, cried about it not counting because it wasn't an official game, and yelled how you're still better than the person who just beat you.

You still lost. So yes, Lenoir-Rhyne beating Louisville happened, and the suggestion that it didn't is a ridiculous statement rooted in elitism ("I'm better than you, no matter what").


Also, Louisville reports it on their official site, so it counts to them: https://gocards.com/sports/mens-basketba...le/2022-23

It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy
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(11-08-2022 03:52 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 03:39 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

https://louisville.forums.rivals.com/thr...ost-803256
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RE: D1 losses to non D1 teams
(11-08-2022 07:42 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 06:44 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 03:45 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

https://louisville.forums.rivals.com/thr...ost-803256

It’s probably not a good time for an ACC school to lose to non-D1 school. It doesn’t count and if they make the NCAA tournament it won’t matter one bit.
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(11-08-2022 07:45 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 07:42 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 07:37 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 06:44 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 03:52 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

https://louisville.forums.rivals.com/thr...ost-803256

It’s probably not a good time for an ACC school to lose to non-D1 school. It doesn’t count and if they make the NCAA tournament it won’t matter one bit.

You just conceded the debate. You admitted that the result matters, contingent on if they make the tournament.

Again, you are right, it does not count. But it does matter to all the people involved; winners, losers, fans, and administrators of the participants.
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RE: D1 losses to non D1 teams
(11-08-2022 07:50 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 07:42 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 07:37 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
(11-08-2022 06:44 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

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It’s probably not a good time for an ACC school to lose to non-D1 school. It doesn’t count and if they make the NCAA tournament it won’t matter one bit.

You just conceded the debate. You admitted that the result matters, contingent on if they make the tournament.

Again, you are right, it does not count. But it does matter to all the people involved; winners, losers, fans, and administrators of the participants.

Since it does not count, it does not belong in this thread. I didn’t concede anything, as it doesn’t count. An ACC team shouldn’t be losing to any inferior school, but again, it doesn’t count and if they are successful this season, it doesn’t matter 1 bit.
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(11-08-2022 09:34 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 07:37 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

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It’s probably not a good time for an ACC school to lose to non-D1 school. It doesn’t count and if they make the NCAA tournament it won’t matter one bit.

You just conceded the debate. You admitted that the result matters, contingent on if they make the tournament.

Again, you are right, it does not count. But it does matter to all the people involved; winners, losers, fans, and administrators of the participants.

Since it does not count, it does not belong in this thread. I didn’t concede anything, as it doesn’t count. An ACC team shouldn’t be losing to any inferior school, but again, it doesn’t count and if they are successful this season, it doesn’t matter 1 bit.

LOL you don't get to make the rules! The title of this thread is "D1 losses to non D1 teams". Louisville lists this as a loss. Non-countable, but a loss.

Todor is the one who started this thread, I will abide by his ruling. Todor, do you want exhibition losses included in this thread?
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(11-08-2022 07:50 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  
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(11-08-2022 07:42 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

https://louisville.forums.rivals.com/thr...ost-803256

It’s probably not a good time for an ACC school to lose to non-D1 school. It doesn’t count and if they make the NCAA tournament it won’t matter one bit.

You just conceded the debate. You admitted that the result matters, contingent on if they make the tournament.

Again, you are right, it does not count. But it does matter to all the people involved; winners, losers, fans, and administrators of the participants.

Since it does not count, it does not belong in this thread. I didn’t concede anything, as it doesn’t count. An ACC team shouldn’t be losing to any inferior school, but again, it doesn’t count and if they are successful this season, it doesn’t matter 1 bit.

LOL you don't get to make the rules! The title of this thread is "D1 losses to non D1 teams". Louisville lists this as a loss. Non-countable, but a loss.

Todor is the one who started this thread, I will abide by his ruling. Todor, do you want exhibition losses included in this thread?

It doesn’t matter to me at all. Many exhibition games are already over anyway. It isn’t like this thread will have tons of games to mention. I just like seeing teams upset the “big boys” once in a while.
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(11-08-2022 09:41 PM)Todor Wrote:  It doesn’t matter to me at all. Many exhibition games are already over anyway. It isn’t like this thread will have tons of games to mention. I just like seeing teams upset the “big boys” once in a while.

Exhibitions will continue through December. San Diego Christian still has 4 D1 exhibitions to play. But EXTREMELY doubtful they will pull off a win.
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(11-08-2022 09:41 PM)Todor Wrote:  It doesn’t matter to me at all. Many exhibition games are already over anyway. It isn’t like this thread will have tons of games to mention. I just like seeing teams upset the “big boys” once in a while.

Exhibitions will continue through December. San Diego Christian still has 4 D1 exhibitions to play. But EXTREMELY doubtful they will pull off a win.

Might as well list upsets if they happen. Why not, right?
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(11-08-2022 03:45 PM)Yosef181 Wrote:  They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

Only to you NAIA fanboy

Seems to matter to these guys too LOL

https://louisville.forums.rivals.com/thr...ost-803256

Bet it mattered on the Kentucky board as well.

I bet the Louisville coach had a few things to say at practice the next day even if it doesn't count.

No, if they finish 19-16 it won't keep them out of the tournament when they are discussing bubble teams. But it is still funny.
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If you keep score it matters. If it didnt you would not keep up with the score.
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D2 Colorado Christian defeated Northern Colorado 70-69

It hasn’t been a big season for these upsets this year. After the initial few, it’s slowed to a trickle. Probably won’t see too many more.
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(11-22-2022 10:40 PM)Todor Wrote:  D2 Colorado Christian defeated Northern Colorado 70-69

It hasn’t been a big season for these upsets this year. After the initial few, it’s slowed to a trickle. Probably won’t see too many more.

Exhibition season continues through the holidays. But there's usually no more than a few upsets.
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(11-22-2022 10:40 PM)Todor Wrote:  D2 Colorado Christian defeated Northern Colorado 70-69

It hasn’t been a big season for these upsets this year. After the initial few, it’s slowed to a trickle. Probably won’t see too many more.

Exhibition season continues through the holidays. But there's usually no more than a few upsets.

Seems like the upsets happen in those first few games most often. After the D1 teams have played together more, get some kinks worked out, and a few games under their belts, its a lot tougher to knock them off.
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(11-22-2022 10:40 PM)Todor Wrote:  D2 Colorado Christian defeated Northern Colorado 70-69

It hasn’t been a big season for these upsets this year. After the initial few, it’s slowed to a trickle. Probably won’t see too many more.

Exhibition season continues through the holidays. But there's usually no more than a few upsets.

Seems like the upsets happen in those first few games most often. After the D1 teams have played together more, get some kinks worked out, and a few games under their belts, its a lot tougher to knock them off.

I would agree with that.
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(11-08-2022 03:39 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

They still lost to D2 Lenoir-Rhyne. If they don't want people bringing that up, either beat them or don't schedule them.

The result does not matter. People bringing it up, does not matter. It doesn’t count and won’t be included in their season record. Which would still be the case had they won the game.

It doesn't count. But it DOES matter. The Louisville coach's comments prove that.

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Maybe not, but bragging rights mean something, even if it was an exhibition. Look at LeMoyne beating Syracuse before Syracuse won their first 25 games in 2009-10. You're telling keep that it meant nothing to the Dolphin players, students, and alumni in Syracuse?
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(11-08-2022 01:25 PM)AssKickingChicken Wrote:  The game still happened.

So did NFL preseason games. How are they relevant now?

If NFL preseason games were played against college teams, and the college team won, THEN your question would be comparing apples to apples.

It's more like if you challenged someone to a pickup game, lost the game, cried about it not counting because it wasn't an official game, and yelled how you're still better than the person who just beat you.

You still lost. So yes, Lenoir-Rhyne beating Louisville happened, and the suggestion that it didn't is a ridiculous statement rooted in elitism ("I'm better than you, no matter what").


Also, Louisville reports it on their official site, so it counts to them: https://gocards.com/sports/mens-basketba...le/2022-23

It does not count. It won’t be in their record and the coach won’t have that game in their official record. It’s not about elitism, it’s an exhibition game. The people on here talking about it counting, have obvious bias towards power programs. That game doesn’t count towards any Louisville record.

Did they keep score? Were there officials? You seem to be pitching a fit because people are simply disagreeing with you. A game took place and there was a winner and a loser. Yes, it was in an exhibition game, and does not officially count in any standings but it was a game nonetheless with a determined outcome and Louisville lost. Is anything I’m saying factually incorrect?
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