(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:03 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  We are not part of the state system now

Yes we are.

We have our own board of regents now

But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:03 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:00 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  We are not part of the state system now

Yes we are.

We have our own board of regents now

But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

That's not "putting it another way". That is changing the subject when you have been corrected.

(11-28-2022 11:24 AM)jets521 Wrote:  one thing that is never thrown around -

why doesn't UofM cut some programs to funnel more cash into the programs that matter?

Just because you don't understand Title IX doesn't mean we should do something literally no one else has done.

(11-28-2022 02:49 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:24 AM)jets521 Wrote:  one thing that is never thrown around -

why doesn't UofM cut some programs to funnel more cash into the programs that matter?

Just because you don't understand Title IX doesn't mean we should do something literally no one else has done.

HA. Assumptions much?

(11-28-2022 12:47 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 12:43 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 12:15 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 09:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  I’m tired of hearing how financially strapped our program is. It’s said so much it’s simply assumed as the truth. South AL, Louisiana, GA St and several other lesser programs from CUSA & SB are growing, have built stadiums & doing it in less than half our income & budget. Our university simply has no ambition to ensure success.

Amen!

The university does not want to expend the political capital to build an OCS. Perhaps there are influential boosters who are tied to the Liberty Park boondoggle… perhaps the school does not want to battle influential neighbors to the east of campus… or perhaps the university truly is content in a G5 league; regardless, every time they’ve had the chance to step up, they’ve balked. Had Shirley decided to move forward with the Heery Report suggestions & built on-campus, she would have been a transformational president & the UofM would be headed to the Big 12; but she immediately balked & towed the line. Clearly, the school refuses to act in the self interest of the athletic department and bypasses the additional 20+ million per year the Big 12 would immediately net. Frustrating & sad.

Really sad, whether we are ready to accept or not, the sooner the better...We are on a road of Independence....These conference games over the course of the next 5 years, is a death sentence.....We must make a drastic decision to take our destiny in our own hands....If the admin won't do it.Have them removed

TigerJay, how much have YOU dontated? How many tickets do YOU buy?

just asking so we can exrapolate that over the entire fanbase and see how your support would take us towards your proclimations.

I'm going to assume that you are referring to me as Tiger Jay and asking me to disclosed financial endeavors (on a message board) as if, there is some qualifying barometer....Akin to masses of cronies floating around boasting that they have been jabbed, then questioning and ridiculing those that chose NOT to bend over or reluctant to share/disclose person/private medical info I try and maintain reasonable anonymity may I suggest you do the same....Cyber crime is exploding....With that being said....IT AINT YOUR F*&^KING BUSINESS

I am flying to Memphis in a couple days....My family is from Orange Mound/Binghampton/Castalia/White Station...If you're comfortable with that, drop an addy...I can stop by, visit, bring a beverage of your choice, smoke a gar and have a chat

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:03 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Yes we are.

We have our own board of regents now

But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

yeah, right.

(11-28-2022 03:38 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:03 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  We have our own board of regents now

But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

yeah, right.

The sudden urgency by our proactive administration to put forth a stadium plan, soon after UC, UCF & UH were announced to the Big 12, was not a coincidence.

(11-28-2022 02:49 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 11:24 AM)jets521 Wrote:  one thing that is never thrown around -

why doesn't UofM cut some programs to funnel more cash into the programs that matter?

Just because you don't understand Title IX doesn't mean we should do something literally no one else has done.

As someone who spent over a decade as a professional in collegiate athletics, including at the university that this message board is based on, i'd venture a guess that I have a better grasp of Title IX than you do......

and you can use google and find dozens of examples of school's cutting sports to save money.

so uh.....piss off?

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:03 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:02 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Yes we are.

We have our own board of regents now

But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

Then they need to be better informed----it had absolutely ZERO impact

(11-28-2022 03:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 03:38 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  But we are still funded by THEC, as are all 4 year public universities in the state of TN
https://www.tn.gov/content/dam/tn/thec/b...email.xlsx

Every 4 year school in the state now has its own board to help prioritize projects but those projects are partially or solely funded by the state.

The TN BOR solely oversees 2 year schools now.

Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

yeah, right.

The sudden urgency by our proactive administration to put forth a stadium plan, soon after UC, UCF & UH were announced to the Big 12, was not a coincidence.

You're correct--it wasn't a coincidence ------it was merely an attempt to cover their asses for pure incompetence ---it was an excuse to take the pressure off of themselves .

(11-28-2022 07:45 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 03:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 03:38 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:23 PM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Let me put it another way


IT IS NEVER ******* HAPPENING


And it’s not why we didn’t get into the big 12


Our students don’t even want to live on campus

The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

yeah, right.

The sudden urgency by our proactive administration to put forth a stadium plan, soon after UC, UCF & UH were announced to the Big 12, was not a coincidence.

You're correct--it wasn't a coincidence ------it was merely an attempt to cover their asses for pure incompetence ---it was an excuse to take the pressure off of themselves .

It's REALLY AMAZING, the moment that we are in right now.....This is an absolute breaking point. I honestly feel that we have to take over this situation and put forth an immense effort to toss this admin and control the destiny of Memphis The University....Even through legal procedure...Steps must be made, action must be taken, we are being strung along and made absolute fools of.....Where is the accountability....Stammers has a valid point.....After all of these funds, then what? There is NOTHING planned, there is NOTHING defined....We could look up in 5-10 years and be in even worse position if there is no accountability

Watching the World Cup right now. Stadium crowd 44,500.

(11-28-2022 10:23 PM)thagr82008 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 07:45 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 03:57 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 03:38 PM)tigerfan39 Wrote:  

(11-28-2022 01:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The stadium is the reason we did not get an invite. Ive heard it from too many people who would know.

yeah, right.

The sudden urgency by our proactive administration to put forth a stadium plan, soon after UC, UCF & UH were announced to the Big 12, was not a coincidence.

You're correct--it wasn't a coincidence ------it was merely an attempt to cover their asses for pure incompetence ---it was an excuse to take the pressure off of themselves .

It's REALLY AMAZING, the moment that we are in right now.....This is an absolute breaking point. I honestly feel that we have to take over this situation and put forth an immense effort to toss this admin and control the destiny of Memphis The University....Even through legal procedure...Steps must be made, action must be taken, we are being strung along and made absolute fools of.....Where is the accountability....Stammers has a valid point.....After all of these funds, then what? There is NOTHING planned, there is NOTHING defined....We could look up in 5-10 years and be in even worse position if there is no accountability

The accountability isn't the admin, it is us, the fanbase. Do you really think we wouldn't have an OCS if we could raise the money? At $150 million 15 years ago it was completely doable. At $300 - $400 million today, it doesn't seem to be. If the whales would donate $300 million it would probably happen. The internal study said our ceiling for donations was $200 million.

Cincinnati has enrollment of 44,000 and an endowment of $1.7 billion. They raised $85 million for their renovation.

Houston has an enrollment of 46,000 and an endowment of $1.7 billion. They took a long time to build their stadium and it only cost $128 million.

UCF has an enrollment of 70,000 and an endowment of only $200 million and they built a cheap stadium for $74 million. If their students only give $150 per semester, that is $21 million per year without any additional funding.

We have an enrollment of 22,000 and an endowment of $221 million. The time to do it was 10 years ago, when a really nice stadium would have cost $150 million. Unfortunately we had a complete idiot in RC and a president that didn't care about sports in Raines. IF Rudd, Brad Martin, and Bowen were around back then, we would have our stadium.

So again, the ceiling for donations seems to be $200 million. What do you do if the stadium comes in at $400 million? We had trouble raising $20 million for an IPF.

The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

(11-29-2022 05:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

Seriously?

(11-29-2022 05:11 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

Seriously?

The public has NEVER been involved in any stadium decisions. They simply announce what they are going to do.

Could some rich old football player that no one ever hears from show up? Could happen. Who knows?

(11-29-2022 05:26 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:11 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

Seriously?

The public has NEVER been involved in any stadium decisions. They simply announce what they are going to do.

Could some rich old football player that no one ever hears from show up? Could happen. Who knows?

You could also start spending large amounts on the lottery and hit one of those mega-million ones and then drop a couple 100 mil on the university for an OCS too.... Could happen. Who knows?

didnt someone in the memphis area (west tn) hit the lottery a few years ago ?

they were on the TODAY show, then kind off disappeared

(11-29-2022 05:26 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:11 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

Seriously?

The public has NEVER been involved in any stadium decisions. They simply announce what they are going to do.

Could some rich old football player that no one ever hears from show up? Could happen. Who knows?

A solid business plan.

(11-29-2022 05:26 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:11 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-29-2022 05:05 PM)Claw Wrote:  The fanbase and the public have never been asked to pledge money for a stadium.

For all we know, someone might walk up with $100 million saying you never asked me before.

Seriously?

The public has NEVER been involved in any stadium decisions. They simply announce what they are going to do.

Could some rich old football player that no one ever hears from show up? Could happen. Who knows?

Agree with this that a public donation campaign has never been attempted because I think deep down, they know it would be successful, and would force the University's hand in building an OCS. Let's say we have 20k season ticket holders, do you not think asking for an annual contribution of $100-$1,000 to go toward funding an OCS would be a difficult sell? I would support that immediately over and NIL Fund where you have zero clue where the money is going and why. Not to mention, a horrible head coach/AD begging for NIL money when they will not improve the product on the field, even if money funneled in, because they're in over their heads. That would have overwhelming support - there's your payment to supplement the financing of the debt over 20-30 years. Ask the state for a certain amount of funding as a down payment & large corporate donors for premium boxes and advertising. Tack on a $25 fee for student enrollment rather than wasting $ charged in tuition for the ability to print paper in computer labs. Sounds like a better use of resources, very easy, and would drastically improve the University & surrounding area.

But again, it's too difficult to get off your ass and be proactive, rather we should continue to be the city's lackey and support a stadium that has cost our City an NFL(!) team along with us getting into a P5 conference, several times. It's a joke and we do not have the leadership in place, now, to lead us. We did with Rudd and it's unfortunate his 10 year tenure had to end.