(11-04-2022 08:38 AM)eku05 Wrote:  

Quote:I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

Any ten year old perception of Austin Peay is for an entirely different program. I don't think any school's commitment to football has gone up more in that time, and I'm genuinely impressed by what is going on in Clarksville.

Tech is upping their commitment too, but they aren't in Peay's level (at least not yet).

Austin Peay is showing more of a commitment recently for sure. I don't think they have an FBS resume just yet, but in another 5 years or so who knows.

Quote:Austin Peay is showing more of a commitment recently for sure. I don't think they have an FBS resume just yet, but in another 5 years or so who knows.

I agree entirely. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I think they're ready on a moment's notice, but for anyone who hasn't updated their perception of what Austin Peay football is recently...it's time. Huge credit to their administration.

(11-04-2022 12:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:00 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 09:56 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:35 PM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  It seems like CUSA likes ASUN teams. EKU/uca/una/Peay might be the schools they are trying to talk into the move.

Valdosta/uwg is a terrific troll post. Good job man.

Austin Peay?

You working your own dash of troll in yourself?

I will top that UNA? UNA, AP, and even UCA budgets are below 14M. WKU president said that schools with a budget of 14M will not be looked at regarding schools with budgets of 28M.

EKU, UCA and UNA have all actually been discussed here before. It seems EKU has genuine interest on their end, at least UNA is on an upward trajectory as a program.

I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

UNA just fired their coach, and they they not had a winning season yet at the FCS level nor won a conference chip. They need more time.

(11-04-2022 09:24 AM)eku05 Wrote:  

Quote:Austin Peay is showing more of a commitment recently for sure. I don't think they have an FBS resume just yet, but in another 5 years or so who knows.

I agree entirely. I certainly didn't mean to imply that I think they're ready on a moment's notice, but for anyone who hasn't updated their perception of what Austin Peay football is recently...it's time. Huge credit to their administration.

Yep. I don't know how Austin Peay's enrollment numbers are trending, but I know that Clarksville feels a little bigger every time I visit.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cit...population

Gained 70k population in 20 years and trending to continue that from all indicators I see.

(11-04-2022 09:49 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 12:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:00 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 09:56 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 03:35 PM)Hootyhoo Wrote:  It seems like CUSA likes ASUN teams. EKU/uca/una/Peay might be the schools they are trying to talk into the move.

Valdosta/uwg is a terrific troll post. Good job man.

Austin Peay?

You working your own dash of troll in yourself?

I will top that UNA? UNA, AP, and even UCA budgets are below 14M. WKU president said that schools with a budget of 14M will not be looked at regarding schools with budgets of 28M.

EKU, UCA and UNA have all actually been discussed here before. It seems EKU has genuine interest on their end, at least UNA is on an upward trajectory as a program.

I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

UNA just fired their coach, and they they not had a winning season yet at the FCS level nor won a conference chip. They need more time.

I don't want any of them nor do I keep up with FCS football at all until I randomly end up watching a quarter or so of the FCS championship game most years.

UNA is simply a program that, from the little bit I do follow lower divisions, as I understand has ambition and won a lot of games in their last decade or so in DII and their name has been bounced around a few times over the years as a program to watch.

Austin Peay having any actual ambition as a program is news to me.

(11-04-2022 11:12 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 09:49 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 12:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:00 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 09:56 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  Austin Peay?

You working your own dash of troll in yourself?

I will top that UNA? UNA, AP, and even UCA budgets are below 14M. WKU president said that schools with a budget of 14M will not be looked at regarding schools with budgets of 28M.

EKU, UCA and UNA have all actually been discussed here before. It seems EKU has genuine interest on their end, at least UNA is on an upward trajectory as a program.

I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

UNA just fired their coach, and they they not had a winning season yet at the FCS level nor won a conference chip. They need more time.

I don't want any of them nor do I keep up with FCS football at all until I randomly end up watching a quarter or so of the FCS championship game most years.

UNA is simply a program that, from the little bit I do follow lower divisions, as I understand has ambition and won a lot of games in their last decade or so in DII and their name has been bounced around a few times over the years as a program to watch.

Austin Peay having any actual ambition as a program is news to me.

They are a DI program now. I would evaluate what they are doing at the D1 level vs what the did at the DII level.

(11-04-2022 12:27 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 11:12 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 09:49 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 12:48 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:00 PM)jones682 Wrote:  I will top that UNA? UNA, AP, and even UCA budgets are below 14M. WKU president said that schools with a budget of 14M will not be looked at regarding schools with budgets of 28M.

EKU, UCA and UNA have all actually been discussed here before. It seems EKU has genuine interest on their end, at least UNA is on an upward trajectory as a program.

I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

UNA just fired their coach, and they they not had a winning season yet at the FCS level nor won a conference chip. They need more time.

I don't want any of them nor do I keep up with FCS football at all until I randomly end up watching a quarter or so of the FCS championship game most years.

UNA is simply a program that, from the little bit I do follow lower divisions, as I understand has ambition and won a lot of games in their last decade or so in DII and their name has been bounced around a few times over the years as a program to watch.

Austin Peay having any actual ambition as a program is news to me.

They are a DI program now. I would evaluate what they are doing at the D1 level vs what the did at the DII level.

Evaluate them for what? An invitation I have no interest in seeing extended.

You're really hung up on the wrong part of what I said, if we're looking at inviting any one out of UNA, UCA, or Austin Peay any time soon, that's a problem.

(11-02-2022 11:22 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  According to Chris Vannini (The Athletic)-- C-USA is (paraphrasing) not just keeping names in mind of schools who have contacted them (C-USA).

They are now going out and "recruiting" candidates--- traveling to them and making an effort to sell/recruit and show potential schools the future plan and potential benefits of C-USA membership.

Of course this may NOT work--but officials are giving it a try. A slow, long process which puts no one under any pressure since the league is in no rush to add right away. It also gives schools time to see how things like media deal, CFP money distribution details, D1 requirements, etc. play out over the next 2-3 years.

I have to think ONE of those schools they continue to "court" is Missouri State along with a few other "long-shots".

Just curious if this was from a tweet or an article for the paywalled Athletic?

We're all repeating ourselves here (what's new?) but to sum up:

There aren't a lot of great candidates left in FCS, at least, if you define "great" as "ready to make an immediate move to FBS". EKU is there. Mo St and Delaware are probably close enough, if they're interested, but both stretch the footprint a bit. NDSU is, but they DEFINITELY stretch the footprint and would probably have no interest in moving all sports to CUSA.

Tarleton and SFA each have a few pros -- balancing east-west divisions and fostering regional rivalries chief among them -- but the best case scenario for both would be 3-5 years.

Most everyone else, for one reason or another, is on more of a 5-10 year time frame before they'd be FBS ready.

And some of the usual suspects (ahem, Chattanooga) are not at all interested. The Mocs *might* think about it if an SBC invite came their way, only because they have several old conference mates there, but even then, I don't know that they'd move. Should CUSA approach them? Sure. Should CUSA expect an acceptance? No.

We also need to remember that football, while extremely important, is not the only sport that matters. A few candidates which seem attractive enough on the gridiron are TERRIBLE in other sports, across the board. Adding a mediocre FCS program won't help us at all if their men's basketball team is ranked 300th in the nation.

I don't believe ANY serious candidate at the FCS level is strong enough in football (or market/reputation) to overcome the damage a weak hoops program would do to the conference. If their basketball is ranked lower than about 263, they really shouldn't be considered at all. (And I'm being generous with that ranking... it just means they're not among the 100 worst programs in D-I.)

(11-04-2022 02:51 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 11:22 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  According to Chris Vannini (The Athletic)-- C-USA is (paraphrasing) not just keeping names in mind of schools who have contacted them (C-USA).

They are now going out and "recruiting" candidates--- traveling to them and making an effort to sell/recruit and show potential schools the future plan and potential benefits of C-USA membership.

Of course this may NOT work--but officials are giving it a try. A slow, long process which puts no one under any pressure since the league is in no rush to add right away. It also gives schools time to see how things like media deal, CFP money distribution details, D1 requirements, etc. play out over the next 2-3 years.

I have to think ONE of those schools they continue to "court" is Missouri State along with a few other "long-shots".

Just curious if this was from a tweet or an article for the paywalled Athletic?

Pay walled article. But it was only part of a bigger story that was indirectly related.

The way I understand it he took down a LOT of quotes and inferences (from various c-usa officials) but chose NOT to use them all in the original KSU add story. Of course he held on to these comments.
The writer has released little tidbits TWICE now since that original article by adding them into other later related stories.

Chris Vannini and The Athletic are really the best source for G5 football and some on realignment IMO.

It is the only one I pay for ( about six bucks a month)-- but the Matt Brown subscription also might be worth the cost. He is usually ahead of the curve.

(11-04-2022 03:54 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 02:51 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 11:22 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  According to Chris Vannini (The Athletic)-- C-USA is (paraphrasing) not just keeping names in mind of schools who have contacted them (C-USA).

They are now going out and "recruiting" candidates--- traveling to them and making an effort to sell/recruit and show potential schools the future plan and potential benefits of C-USA membership.

Of course this may NOT work--but officials are giving it a try. A slow, long process which puts no one under any pressure since the league is in no rush to add right away. It also gives schools time to see how things like media deal, CFP money distribution details, D1 requirements, etc. play out over the next 2-3 years.

I have to think ONE of those schools they continue to "court" is Missouri State along with a few other "long-shots".

Just curious if this was from a tweet or an article for the paywalled Athletic?

Pay walled article. But it was only part of a bigger story that was indirectly related.

The way I understand it he took down a LOT of quotes and inferences (from various c-usa officials) but chose NOT to use them all in the original KSU add story. Of course he held on to these comments.
The writer has released little tidbits TWICE now since that original article by adding them into other later related stories.

Chris Vannini and The Athletic are really the best source for G5 football and some on realignment IMO.

It is the only one I pay for ( about six bucks a month)-- but the Matt Brown subscription also might be worth the cost. He is usually ahead of the curve.

Thanks. Appreciate the response. I follow some of the realignment writers from the Athletic and other sites on Twitter in hopes of gleaning some good info. This peaked my interest.

(11-03-2022 10:16 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 06:36 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 05:36 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 05:15 AM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 11:48 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  YES. Sounds like we are being more proactive. But-- it will be a TOUGH sell at this point.

Out of curiosity who would be your first choice for the 11th member?

Missouri State.

enrollment-- about 23,500- 2nd largest in state

Missouri---- 6.2 million ONLY ONE FBS school-- arkansas only 3M (2 FBS), KY-4.5M (3 FBS) , TN-6.9M (4 FBS), Alabama 4.9 M (5 FBS), GA 10.7 M (will have 5 FBS), South Carolina 5.2 M (3 FBS), LA 4.6M (5 FBS), MS 3M (3 FBS).

Springfield MSA-- just under 1/2 MILLION

Basketball-- Top 90 NET most years
WM BB TOP 75, good baseball

Football--competitive in the tough MVFC; fair support; need better facilities- but doable

Good branding with Missouri St. name.

Geography- not out of footprint; 6.7 hrs to La Tech, 7 hrs to WKU, MT.

Rumor SBC has interest.


Name a BETTER candidate and I'll listen.

Dance around it!
Evade it! Ignore it! Disregard it!
Deny it!

EKU!
One university and only one is ready to move! Has done everything asked of them, yet there are those in a certain part of the state of KY that completely disregard EKU and then deny they don't want us, they ignore it, or throw some negativity out. I've seen it here over and over, and most recently on the MAC Board (*where there is a lot of talk about EKU). Hell, I've even seen on the A-Sun Board. (BTW, contrary to a suggestion, and just so you know, EKU is not going back to the OVC).

Rather ironic mentioning "branding" and Missourri State, when we essentially have he same name....Eastern Kentucky University and Western Kentucky University.

Fan Support? We all ready have that. (We don't have try and engage our students and get our alumni to come around).

As far as criteria, it changes weekly. The only thing we have not done is build a new stadium...but neither has Kennesaw, and from what I am reading, it looks like they are adding on contrary to the new build that was first "promised". This is not a slam against KSU, but it was suggested our "stadium" wasn't up to snuff. But again, those old pesky parameters keep changing!

Just to be clear, we aren't asking for your (WKU's) help. But it's obvious what's happening here.............

Ready, Set, FIRE AWAY......I am waiting for it!

Not trying to bash EKU but according to C-USA officials, they liked KSU stadium much better then EKU's. If you been to KSU stadium, even your self would say that the stadium is nicer than EKU. The stadium has a professional kitchen and a beer garden in it. It is what it is

Lets call it what it is...they liked ATLANTA!
So, you say the KSU Stadium is nicer than EKU's... curious, just how many times have you been to EKU?

BTW, EKU's sells beer (and wine) at the stadium if that is now a qualification, have been for the last three years. We have the Cabin On The Hill (great football tradition, I would not expect you to know about that, goes back to all the tradition we have, conference championships, natty championships, you know those kind of things). I guess you could call it a "beer garden". But, the last I heard that was not a consideration, maybe that is another of those "pesky parameters" that keep changing?

Professional kitchen? Well, thats a new one, I will confess we can't compete with that...EKU, quick! get Bobby Flay on the phone, now!

We don't have to try engage our students, or reengage our alumni, something I keep reading that KSU is trying to do..

Our attendance has been 15,000+ for the games this year, what's KSU's in that "Atlanta" metro area? BTW, I now live in the Atlanta metro area, and I do not know one soul that goes to KSU's games (not a slam, just I do not know anyone who even talks about it).

You guys got the nod, we didn't, but lets not act like it is something other than Atlanta and $$ all those commuter students bring.... and has not one thing to do with a "beer garden" or a "soccer stadium" that holds 8000 fans that KSU seems to struggle to fill up.

If Kennesaw was in Codelle or McDonough? Well, you know what that would mean, despite a beer garden and tapas and bruschetta in the concession stand..

I don't want to compare to EKU cause I haven't been there. But I will say the bank is very nice. It's definetly more soccer stadium than football stadium. But it's a terrific venue. I think they should be able to expand it past 20k and I'd greatly prefer that to a new stadium.

Also, if CUSA thought KSU was getting them the Atlanta market lol. It's a very different place. And I imagine eku/KSU was mostly a coin toss. I was surprised when cusa invited us. I hope it works out. I'd love to see fan interest pick up and football help Kennesaw shed the commuter school culture.

And I got not idea what he means by the professional kitchen or beer garden. Maybe I go to the wrong spots in our MASSIVE (sarcasm) stadium. But it's canned beer poured in a cup, hot dogs, and hamburgers lol.

And I am not trying to **** on the bank. I love it. I hope we play there for a long time. It's a terrific place to catch a game.

(11-04-2022 08:47 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:16 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 06:36 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 05:36 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 05:15 AM)jones682 Wrote:  Out of curiosity who would be your first choice for the 11th member?

Missouri State.

enrollment-- about 23,500- 2nd largest in state

Missouri---- 6.2 million ONLY ONE FBS school-- arkansas only 3M (2 FBS), KY-4.5M (3 FBS) , TN-6.9M (4 FBS), Alabama 4.9 M (5 FBS), GA 10.7 M (will have 5 FBS), South Carolina 5.2 M (3 FBS), LA 4.6M (5 FBS), MS 3M (3 FBS).

Springfield MSA-- just under 1/2 MILLION

Basketball-- Top 90 NET most years
WM BB TOP 75, good baseball

Football--competitive in the tough MVFC; fair support; need better facilities- but doable

Good branding with Missouri St. name.

Geography- not out of footprint; 6.7 hrs to La Tech, 7 hrs to WKU, MT.

Rumor SBC has interest.


Name a BETTER candidate and I'll listen.

Dance around it!
Evade it! Ignore it! Disregard it!
Deny it!

EKU!
One university and only one is ready to move! Has done everything asked of them, yet there are those in a certain part of the state of KY that completely disregard EKU and then deny they don't want us, they ignore it, or throw some negativity out. I've seen it here over and over, and most recently on the MAC Board (*where there is a lot of talk about EKU). Hell, I've even seen on the A-Sun Board. (BTW, contrary to a suggestion, and just so you know, EKU is not going back to the OVC).

Rather ironic mentioning "branding" and Missourri State, when we essentially have he same name....Eastern Kentucky University and Western Kentucky University.

Fan Support? We all ready have that. (We don't have try and engage our students and get our alumni to come around).

As far as criteria, it changes weekly. The only thing we have not done is build a new stadium...but neither has Kennesaw, and from what I am reading, it looks like they are adding on contrary to the new build that was first "promised". This is not a slam against KSU, but it was suggested our "stadium" wasn't up to snuff. But again, those old pesky parameters keep changing!

Just to be clear, we aren't asking for your (WKU's) help. But it's obvious what's happening here.............

Ready, Set, FIRE AWAY......I am waiting for it!

Not trying to bash EKU but according to C-USA officials, they liked KSU stadium much better then EKU's. If you been to KSU stadium, even your self would say that the stadium is nicer than EKU. The stadium has a professional kitchen and a beer garden in it. It is what it is

Lets call it what it is...they liked ATLANTA!
So, you say the KSU Stadium is nicer than EKU's... curious, just how many times have you been to EKU?

BTW, EKU's sells beer (and wine) at the stadium if that is now a qualification, have been for the last three years. We have the Cabin On The Hill (great football tradition, I would not expect you to know about that, goes back to all the tradition we have, conference championships, natty championships, you know those kind of things). I guess you could call it a "beer garden". But, the last I heard that was not a consideration, maybe that is another of those "pesky parameters" that keep changing?

Professional kitchen? Well, thats a new one, I will confess we can't compete with that...EKU, quick! get Bobby Flay on the phone, now!

We don't have to try engage our students, or reengage our alumni, something I keep reading that KSU is trying to do..

Our attendance has been 15,000+ for the games this year, what's KSU's in that "Atlanta" metro area? BTW, I now live in the Atlanta metro area, and I do not know one soul that goes to KSU's games (not a slam, just I do not know anyone who even talks about it).

You guys got the nod, we didn't, but lets not act like it is something other than Atlanta and $$ all those commuter students bring.... and has not one thing to do with a "beer garden" or a "soccer stadium" that holds 8000 fans that KSU seems to struggle to fill up.

If Kennesaw was in Codelle or McDonough? Well, you know what that would mean, despite a beer garden and tapas and bruschetta in the concession stand..

It is "Cordele" Georgia and McDonough Georgia is in metro Atlanta.

KSU won conference championships. KSU has won a playoff game at least every year. The last time EKU won a playoff game was 1994. The point is that it does not matter what you did in the 80's because nobody on EKU's team back then is on EKU's team now. What you did in the 80's does not have anything to do with today. Some EKU fans and Georgia Southern fans are similar in that regard.

According to Matt Brown CUSA officials said that KSU stadium looked better then EKUs and that EKU stadium would need to be torn down. KSU has professional teams pay KSU to play in there stadium. Even WKU president even compared KSU to EKU in his statement due to EKU fans complaining about WKU blocking them and mentioned why KSU was chosen over EKU. KSU was chosen over EKU because of the following:

KSU has been better than EKU over the past 5 years in sports
KSU has a higher budget
KSU is a R2 research university
KSU has better institutional strength
KSU is in a better market

Stop bashing KSU. KSU fans for the most part talk highly of EKU and TBH you sound like a hater at this point. Keep winning and investing and one day your time will come.

(11-04-2022 09:27 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 08:47 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:16 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 06:36 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 05:36 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Missouri State.

enrollment-- about 23,500- 2nd largest in state

Missouri---- 6.2 million ONLY ONE FBS school-- arkansas only 3M (2 FBS), KY-4.5M (3 FBS) , TN-6.9M (4 FBS), Alabama 4.9 M (5 FBS), GA 10.7 M (will have 5 FBS), South Carolina 5.2 M (3 FBS), LA 4.6M (5 FBS), MS 3M (3 FBS).

Springfield MSA-- just under 1/2 MILLION

Basketball-- Top 90 NET most years
WM BB TOP 75, good baseball

Football--competitive in the tough MVFC; fair support; need better facilities- but doable

Good branding with Missouri St. name.

Geography- not out of footprint; 6.7 hrs to La Tech, 7 hrs to WKU, MT.

Rumor SBC has interest.


Name a BETTER candidate and I'll listen.

Dance around it!
Evade it! Ignore it! Disregard it!
Deny it!

EKU!
One university and only one is ready to move! Has done everything asked of them, yet there are those in a certain part of the state of KY that completely disregard EKU and then deny they don't want us, they ignore it, or throw some negativity out. I've seen it here over and over, and most recently on the MAC Board (*where there is a lot of talk about EKU). Hell, I've even seen on the A-Sun Board. (BTW, contrary to a suggestion, and just so you know, EKU is not going back to the OVC).

Rather ironic mentioning "branding" and Missourri State, when we essentially have he same name....Eastern Kentucky University and Western Kentucky University.

Fan Support? We all ready have that. (We don't have try and engage our students and get our alumni to come around).

As far as criteria, it changes weekly. The only thing we have not done is build a new stadium...but neither has Kennesaw, and from what I am reading, it looks like they are adding on contrary to the new build that was first "promised". This is not a slam against KSU, but it was suggested our "stadium" wasn't up to snuff. But again, those old pesky parameters keep changing!

Just to be clear, we aren't asking for your (WKU's) help. But it's obvious what's happening here.............

Ready, Set, FIRE AWAY......I am waiting for it!

Not trying to bash EKU but according to C-USA officials, they liked KSU stadium much better then EKU's. If you been to KSU stadium, even your self would say that the stadium is nicer than EKU. The stadium has a professional kitchen and a beer garden in it. It is what it is

Lets call it what it is...they liked ATLANTA!
So, you say the KSU Stadium is nicer than EKU's... curious, just how many times have you been to EKU?

BTW, EKU's sells beer (and wine) at the stadium if that is now a qualification, have been for the last three years. We have the Cabin On The Hill (great football tradition, I would not expect you to know about that, goes back to all the tradition we have, conference championships, natty championships, you know those kind of things). I guess you could call it a "beer garden". But, the last I heard that was not a consideration, maybe that is another of those "pesky parameters" that keep changing?

Professional kitchen? Well, thats a new one, I will confess we can't compete with that...EKU, quick! get Bobby Flay on the phone, now!

We don't have to try engage our students, or reengage our alumni, something I keep reading that KSU is trying to do..

Our attendance has been 15,000+ for the games this year, what's KSU's in that "Atlanta" metro area? BTW, I now live in the Atlanta metro area, and I do not know one soul that goes to KSU's games (not a slam, just I do not know anyone who even talks about it).

You guys got the nod, we didn't, but lets not act like it is something other than Atlanta and $$ all those commuter students bring.... and has not one thing to do with a "beer garden" or a "soccer stadium" that holds 8000 fans that KSU seems to struggle to fill up.

If Kennesaw was in Codelle or McDonough? Well, you know what that would mean, despite a beer garden and tapas and bruschetta in the concession stand..

It is "Cordele" Georgia and McDonough Georgia is in metro Atlanta.

KSU won conference championships. KSU has won a playoff game at least every year. The last time EKU won a playoff game was 1994. The point is that it does not matter what you did in the 80's because nobody on EKU's team back then is on EKU's team now. What you did in the 80's does not have anything to do with today. Some EKU fans and Georgia Southern fans are similar in that regard.

According to Matt Brown CUSA officials said that KSU stadium looked better then EKUs and that EKU stadium would need to be torn down. KSU has professional teams pay KSU to play in there stadium. Even WKU president even compared KSU to EKU in his statement due to EKU fans complaining about WKU blocking them and mentioned why KSU was chosen over EKU. KSU was chosen over EKU because of the following:

KSU has been better than EKU over the past 5 years in sports
KSU has a higher budget
KSU is a R2 research university
KSU has better institutional strength
KSU is in a better market

Stop bashing KSU. KSU fans for the most part talk highly of EKU and TBH you sound like a hater at this point. Keep winning and investing and one day your time will come.

Thanks for the spell check.


Comparing apples to oranges. You’re right about our recent playoff mishaps, no argument there. Take a look of who we played during those times you point to. Univ of Louisville, (several times) UK (several times), WVU, NC State, Marshall, several MAC schools, Troy, Vanderbilt, Purdue, Univ of Florida, Kansas State, WKU. No excuse for not winning the OVC, but still as bad as it is, the OVC was stronger than the Big South. We also played our share of easy wins, but little comparison in EKU's schedule from the last 10 years vs the Big South….Reinhardt, Hampton, Edward Waters, Shorter, Davidson,, Monmouth , Dayton, Point (who is that?) and more. I know that you guys have a better winning percentage in the last 5 or 10 years, but you can’t argue that we’ have both been playing the same level of teams. As I said before you got chosen, we didn’t end of story. EKU fans know and the rest of you on here know also the parameters change, depending on who the powers that be "think" will bring the most money to the conference, just the bottom line. Just so you know, I have no "hate" for KSU. But I’ll never be convinced that EKU wasn’t the better choice (what kind of fan would I be if I thought differently), time will tell. We’ll see you all in a couple weeks in that horrific stadium you seem to know all about.

(11-04-2022 10:25 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 09:27 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 08:47 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 10:16 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 06:36 PM)LexColonel Wrote:  Dance around it!
Evade it! Ignore it! Disregard it!
Deny it!

EKU!
One university and only one is ready to move! Has done everything asked of them, yet there are those in a certain part of the state of KY that completely disregard EKU and then deny they don't want us, they ignore it, or throw some negativity out. I've seen it here over and over, and most recently on the MAC Board (*where there is a lot of talk about EKU). Hell, I've even seen on the A-Sun Board. (BTW, contrary to a suggestion, and just so you know, EKU is not going back to the OVC).

Rather ironic mentioning "branding" and Missourri State, when we essentially have he same name....Eastern Kentucky University and Western Kentucky University.

Fan Support? We all ready have that. (We don't have try and engage our students and get our alumni to come around).

As far as criteria, it changes weekly. The only thing we have not done is build a new stadium...but neither has Kennesaw, and from what I am reading, it looks like they are adding on contrary to the new build that was first "promised". This is not a slam against KSU, but it was suggested our "stadium" wasn't up to snuff. But again, those old pesky parameters keep changing!

Just to be clear, we aren't asking for your (WKU's) help. But it's obvious what's happening here.............

Ready, Set, FIRE AWAY......I am waiting for it!

Not trying to bash EKU but according to C-USA officials, they liked KSU stadium much better then EKU's. If you been to KSU stadium, even your self would say that the stadium is nicer than EKU. The stadium has a professional kitchen and a beer garden in it. It is what it is

Lets call it what it is...they liked ATLANTA!
So, you say the KSU Stadium is nicer than EKU's... curious, just how many times have you been to EKU?

BTW, EKU's sells beer (and wine) at the stadium if that is now a qualification, have been for the last three years. We have the Cabin On The Hill (great football tradition, I would not expect you to know about that, goes back to all the tradition we have, conference championships, natty championships, you know those kind of things). I guess you could call it a "beer garden". But, the last I heard that was not a consideration, maybe that is another of those "pesky parameters" that keep changing?

Professional kitchen? Well, thats a new one, I will confess we can't compete with that...EKU, quick! get Bobby Flay on the phone, now!

We don't have to try engage our students, or reengage our alumni, something I keep reading that KSU is trying to do..

Our attendance has been 15,000+ for the games this year, what's KSU's in that "Atlanta" metro area? BTW, I now live in the Atlanta metro area, and I do not know one soul that goes to KSU's games (not a slam, just I do not know anyone who even talks about it).

You guys got the nod, we didn't, but lets not act like it is something other than Atlanta and $$ all those commuter students bring.... and has not one thing to do with a "beer garden" or a "soccer stadium" that holds 8000 fans that KSU seems to struggle to fill up.

If Kennesaw was in Codelle or McDonough? Well, you know what that would mean, despite a beer garden and tapas and bruschetta in the concession stand..

It is "Cordele" Georgia and McDonough Georgia is in metro Atlanta.

KSU won conference championships. KSU has won a playoff game at least every year. The last time EKU won a playoff game was 1994. The point is that it does not matter what you did in the 80's because nobody on EKU's team back then is on EKU's team now. What you did in the 80's does not have anything to do with today. Some EKU fans and Georgia Southern fans are similar in that regard.

According to Matt Brown CUSA officials said that KSU stadium looked better then EKUs and that EKU stadium would need to be torn down. KSU has professional teams pay KSU to play in there stadium. Even WKU president even compared KSU to EKU in his statement due to EKU fans complaining about WKU blocking them and mentioned why KSU was chosen over EKU. KSU was chosen over EKU because of the following:

KSU has been better than EKU over the past 5 years in sports
KSU has a higher budget
KSU is a R2 research university
KSU has better institutional strength
KSU is in a better market

Stop bashing KSU. KSU fans for the most part talk highly of EKU and TBH you sound like a hater at this point. Keep winning and investing and one day your time will come.

Thanks for the spell check.


Comparing apples to oranges. You’re right about our recent playoff mishaps, no argument there. Take a look of who we played during those times you point to. Univ of Louisville, (several times) UK (several times), WVU, NC State, Marshall, several MAC schools, Troy, Vanderbilt, Purdue, Univ of Florida, Kansas State, WKU. No excuse for not winning the OVC, but still as bad as it is, the OVC was stronger than the Big South. We also played our share of easy wins, but little comparison in EKU's schedule from the last 10 years vs the Big South….Reinhardt, Hampton, Edward Waters, Shorter, Davidson,, Monmouth , Dayton, Point (who is that?) and more. I know that you guys have a better winning percentage in the last 5 or 10 years, but you can’t argue that we’ have both been playing the same level of teams. As I said before you got chosen, we didn’t end of story. EKU fans know and the rest of you on here know also the parameters change, depending on who the powers that be "think" will bring the most money to the conference, just the bottom line. Just so you know, I have no "hate" for KSU. But I’ll never be convinced that EKU wasn’t the better choice (what kind of fan would I be if I thought differently), time will tell. We’ll see you all in a couple weeks in that horrific stadium you seem to know all about.

First and foremost: Liberty and Costal Carolina came from the Big South. Monmouth was a rank playoff team that was better than EKU in the Big South.

The fact that KSU has played nobody is not true when KSU as beaten top 20, top 15, top 10 and top 6 FCS teams. KSU beat the team that was the winner of EKU old conference (OVC) in the playoffs and regular season. KSU have beat the winner of the SoCo in the playoffs 2/3 times. KSU has beat Montana State and the list goes on and on.

(11-04-2022 08:55 AM)freshtop Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 08:38 AM)eku05 Wrote:  

Quote:I'll grant it's been more than a decade since I left Murfreesboro, but Austin Peay I just don't see based on my time in the Boro. Might as well be talking Tennessee Tech(please don't).

Any ten year old perception of Austin Peay is for an entirely different program. I don't think any school's commitment to football has gone up more in that time, and I'm genuinely impressed by what is going on in Clarksville.

Tech is upping their commitment too, but they aren't in Peay's level (at least not yet).

Austin Peay is showing more of a commitment recently for sure. I don't think they have an FBS resume just yet, but in another 5 years or so who knows.

When I started at JSU Peay was maybe playing non scholarship. Then they were the team you chalk up as an easy huge win (amongst other ovc teams).The last few seasons they have been showing a commitment to football. Their other sports have always been pretty good as well and if I remember correctly they just built a new arena

I'm a native Tennessean living an hour from Clarksville/APSU and we shared an OVC rivalry with them in the OVC for 40+ years ("The Fly is Open. Let's Go Peay!"). But y'all are way off base. The Governors will never become an FBS team. Proud for them that they revived their program after going non-scholarship in football some years ago. But The Monkees will be performing "Last Train To Clarksville" LIVE (3 or them are now dead) before that happens.

(11-05-2022 10:08 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  I'm a native Tennessean living an hour from Clarksville/APSU and we shared an OVC rivalry with them in the OVC for 40+ years ("The Fly is Open. Let's Go Peay!"). But y'all are way off base. The Governors will never become an FBS team. Proud for them that they revived their program after going non-scholarship in football some years ago. But The Monkees will be performing "Last Train To Clarksville" LIVE (3 or them are now dead) before that happens.

Some people said the same thing about Kennesaw State so IDK about that.

(11-05-2022 04:41 PM)jones682 Wrote:  

(11-05-2022 10:08 AM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  I'm a native Tennessean living an hour from Clarksville/APSU and we shared an OVC rivalry with them in the OVC for 40+ years ("The Fly is Open. Let's Go Peay!"). But y'all are way off base. The Governors will never become an FBS team. Proud for them that they revived their program after going non-scholarship in football some years ago. But The Monkees will be performing "Last Train To Clarksville" LIVE (3 or them are now dead) before that happens.

Some people said the same thing about Kennesaw State so IDK about that.

“Some people” said that but they didn’t understand the dynamics on why they’d be added. KSU brings a major new market to CUSA. Huge school with a lot of potential. APSU wouldn’t add any of that. They are a small school with limited success. They add nothing in terms of media markets. They won’t be FBS and rightfully so. Nothing against the GOVs but the OVC is perfect for them.