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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 08:08 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  The games in Oxford have been the closest game during this steak but you could argue Miami had their chance from 2013 from 2017 to steal a win when UC was down and blew it.

Narrow that down to Fickell's first season...that was the only time where talent was even remotely close on both sides.
 
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(09-12-2022 01:07 PM)geef Wrote:  Can we just pin this response? 04-bow

(09-12-2022 12:40 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  I'm going to go ahead and repost my Miami rant from a couple of years ago.

Their obsession with trumpeting that 35 year old book has long crossed over into self-parody. It doesn't mean anything. It was the completely subjective opinion of one guy, and even then, Miami and Vermont were thrown onto the list to make it unique and gin up some controversy. Does anyone think that Cal or Virginia even talk about it anymore much less make it the defining event in their existence? Does anyone think that Miami has ever been a better university than schools like Washington, Wisconsin, Illinois or Minnesota that were left off the list? I'll leave OSU off that latter list because they were just coming out of their forced open admission period that was the very basis for Miami's temporary "public ivy" glory. Look at what's happened since. OSU dominates Miami in rankings and admissions selectivity, so it's pretty clear that the mid 60s to the mid 80s were an abnormal deviation from the normal pecking order in Ohio.

Besides "Ivy League" has always meant more than simply academic excellence. It's also a reference to social cache and elitism as there are schools (Chicago, MIT an Cal Tech notably) that are clearly better than half the Ivy League but have never been seen as having the social cache for the wealthy and elite as have Dartmouth or Brown. And that social and economic elitism is everything a public university should not be striving to replicate, yet Miami craves it like a crackhead craves the pipe.

Miami is a garbage school that's been sitting up in that cornfield smelling their own farts and rereading their holy ancient public ivy text over and over for the last 35 years. It's a self-aggrandizing safety school for conservative preppy kids who want to join a frat and major in business while being surrounded exclusively by other conservative preppy kids who join frats and major in business. It's full of kids who didn't get into Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan or Ohio State and then try to use that yellowed, old book to convince themselves and everyone around them that Miami is actually equal to or better than the schools that rejected them. I may not like everything about Ohio State or everything they do, but I respect them as a university and feel that they provide Ohio with a solid, first class flagship research university, and would like to see a more constructive partnership between it and UC. I have no such respect for Miami nor do I see any benefit to UC to have anything to do with it. I think it's a joke of a school, a poor man's Pepperdine.

Rant over.

Can’t you just post this on the Miami board And send us the link. That might heat up the rivalry and give me some entertainment, But I guess they don’t have a lot of fans on their board probably. But I still think you should post it.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
As Colonel Potter would say, "This is BULL-HOCKEY!" I would used stronger words. Who's the f'n idoit who planned this?

You got 30,000+ people decending on Paycor Stadium between 8AM and Noon and all trhe roads are closed.

Hudy 14K Street Closures

CINCINNATI, OH – The Hudy 14/7K will be held this year on Saturday, September 17, 2022. In order to accommodate this event, the following streets will close at 730AM on Saturday, September 17, 2022, and remain closed until approximately 12PM (Streets west of Paycor Stadium may open earlier as the streets will reopen behind runners):



Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way
Central Avenue- closed south of Third Street
W Pete Rose Way- closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Third Street- eastbound closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Gest Street- closed between W Fifth Street and Mehring Way
W Fifth Street- closed between Gest Street and Linn Street
Linn Street- closed between W Eighth Street and Gest Street
Dalton/ Spring Grove Avenue- northbound closed between Linn Street and Harrison Avenue
Harrison/ Central Avenue- eastbound closed between Spring Grove Avenue and Linn Street
Bnks Street- westbound closed between Linn Street and Colerain Avenue
Colerain Avenue- closed between Bank Street and Harrison Avenue
Brighton Approach- closed
McMicken Avenue- eastbound closed between W McMillan Street and Walnut Street
Ravine Street- closed to through traffic between W McMillan Street and Central Parkway
Moore Street- closed between Walnut Street and Liberty Street
Liberty Street- eastbound closed between Vine Street and Reading Road
Reading Road- southbound closed between Liberty Street and Eggleston Avenue
Eggleston Avenue- southbound closed between Central Parkway and E Pete Rose Way
Fifth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
Culvert Street- closed between Butler Street and Third Street
Fourth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
E Pete Rose Way- closed between Johnny Bench Way and Eggleston Avenue
Broadway- closed south of Third Street
Transit Center- closed


Motorists are advised to avoid the area and take alternate routes if possible and to obey directions given by Cincinnati Police officers around the event site.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Thanks for the kind words - I'm still here, though my girl got a kidney stone this week and I had my bachelor party last weekend so I've been a bit occupied. Nevertheless, like a solider waiting to cross No Man's Land in WWI I've accepted my fate as a Miami fan to the likely result on Saturday. If we had a healthy Gabbert and played perfectly I'd say we have a puncher's chance, even if very slim. With a freshman QB it's even less so. Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.
None of this is true. Go Bearcats.

Also Clifton is right. I confuse you with the other Miami fan left on the planet.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Thanks for the kind words - I'm still here, though my girl got a kidney stone this week and I had my bachelor party last weekend so I've been a bit occupied. Nevertheless, like a solider waiting to cross No Man's Land in WWI I've accepted my fate as a Miami fan to the likely result on Saturday. If we had a healthy Gabbert and played perfectly I'd say we have a puncher's chance, even if very slim. With a freshman QB it's even less so. Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.

I like this guy. This is the kind of guy you get drunk with and talk ****.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-16-2022 05:10 AM)Dannyboy Wrote:  
(09-15-2022 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Thanks for the kind words - I'm still here, though my girl got a kidney stone this week and I had my bachelor party last weekend so I've been a bit occupied. Nevertheless, like a solider waiting to cross No Man's Land in WWI I've accepted my fate as a Miami fan to the likely result on Saturday. If we had a healthy Gabbert and played perfectly I'd say we have a puncher's chance, even if very slim. With a freshman QB it's even less so. Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.

I like this guy. This is the kind of guy you get drunk with and talk ****.

You're right. And if we need any more proof this is no longer much of a rivalry, it's that we don't have an invasion of trolls and undercover Redhawk fans filling our discussion threads talking trash.

If UC fumbles the opening kickoff, turns the ball over on a couple of punts, and Bryant throws three picks in the first half, this will be a competitive game. We might expect one of the above (or two or three) and the Bearcats would still be odds on favorites to overcome that. My biggest concern for tomorrow's game? Parking. Especially parking at $70.
 
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This is the time of year when the late, great Greg Ruehlmann would destroy the Miami wonks with humor and class. I miss that.
 
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(09-16-2022 09:17 AM)chatcat Wrote:  This is the time of year when the late, great Greg Ruehlmann would destroy the Miami wonks with humor and class. I miss that.

The absolute best
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 09:39 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  As Colonel Potter would say, "This is BULL-HOCKEY!" I would used stronger words. Who's the f'n idoit who planned this?

You got 30,000+ people decending on Paycor Stadium between 8AM and Noon and all trhe roads are closed.

Hudy 14K Street Closures

CINCINNATI, OH – The Hudy 14/7K will be held this year on Saturday, September 17, 2022. In order to accommodate this event, the following streets will close at 730AM on Saturday, September 17, 2022, and remain closed until approximately 12PM (Streets west of Paycor Stadium may open earlier as the streets will reopen behind runners):



Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way
Central Avenue- closed south of Third Street
W Pete Rose Way- closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Third Street- eastbound closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Gest Street- closed between W Fifth Street and Mehring Way
W Fifth Street- closed between Gest Street and Linn Street
Linn Street- closed between W Eighth Street and Gest Street
Dalton/ Spring Grove Avenue- northbound closed between Linn Street and Harrison Avenue
Harrison/ Central Avenue- eastbound closed between Spring Grove Avenue and Linn Street
Bnks Street- westbound closed between Linn Street and Colerain Avenue
Colerain Avenue- closed between Bank Street and Harrison Avenue
Brighton Approach- closed
McMicken Avenue- eastbound closed between W McMillan Street and Walnut Street
Ravine Street- closed to through traffic between W McMillan Street and Central Parkway
Moore Street- closed between Walnut Street and Liberty Street
Liberty Street- eastbound closed between Vine Street and Reading Road
Reading Road- southbound closed between Liberty Street and Eggleston Avenue
Eggleston Avenue- southbound closed between Central Parkway and E Pete Rose Way
Fifth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
Culvert Street- closed between Butler Street and Third Street
Fourth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
E Pete Rose Way- closed between Johnny Bench Way and Eggleston Avenue
Broadway- closed south of Third Street
Transit Center- closed


Motorists are advised to avoid the area and take alternate routes if possible and to obey directions given by Cincinnati Police officers around the event site.

Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way That is some really bad planning. Is there another entrance into the Banks parking garage other than Mehring?
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-16-2022 09:52 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(09-15-2022 09:39 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  As Colonel Potter would say, "This is BULL-HOCKEY!" I would used stronger words. Who's the f'n idoit who planned this?

You got 30,000+ people decending on Paycor Stadium between 8AM and Noon and all trhe roads are closed.

Hudy 14K Street Closures

CINCINNATI, OH – The Hudy 14/7K will be held this year on Saturday, September 17, 2022. In order to accommodate this event, the following streets will close at 730AM on Saturday, September 17, 2022, and remain closed until approximately 12PM (Streets west of Paycor Stadium may open earlier as the streets will reopen behind runners):



Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way
Central Avenue- closed south of Third Street
W Pete Rose Way- closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Third Street- eastbound closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Gest Street- closed between W Fifth Street and Mehring Way
W Fifth Street- closed between Gest Street and Linn Street
Linn Street- closed between W Eighth Street and Gest Street
Dalton/ Spring Grove Avenue- northbound closed between Linn Street and Harrison Avenue
Harrison/ Central Avenue- eastbound closed between Spring Grove Avenue and Linn Street
Bnks Street- westbound closed between Linn Street and Colerain Avenue
Colerain Avenue- closed between Bank Street and Harrison Avenue
Brighton Approach- closed
McMicken Avenue- eastbound closed between W McMillan Street and Walnut Street
Ravine Street- closed to through traffic between W McMillan Street and Central Parkway
Moore Street- closed between Walnut Street and Liberty Street
Liberty Street- eastbound closed between Vine Street and Reading Road
Reading Road- southbound closed between Liberty Street and Eggleston Avenue
Eggleston Avenue- southbound closed between Central Parkway and E Pete Rose Way
Fifth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
Culvert Street- closed between Butler Street and Third Street
Fourth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
E Pete Rose Way- closed between Johnny Bench Way and Eggleston Avenue
Broadway- closed south of Third Street
Transit Center- closed


Motorists are advised to avoid the area and take alternate routes if possible and to obey directions given by Cincinnati Police officers around the event site.

Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way That is some really bad planning. Is there another entrance into the Banks parking garage other than Mehring?
UC ticket office pimped parking tickets. I bought one for CRG garage and now you cannot get in? Typical ticket office move!
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 08:26 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(09-15-2022 08:08 PM)UCBearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  The games in Oxford have been the closest game during this steak but you could argue Miami had their chance from 2013 from 2017 to steal a win when UC was down and blew it.

Narrow that down to Fickell's first season...that was the only time where talent was even remotely close on both sides.

Yep. I've seen some maintain the 2018 game that ended 21-0 was a close outcome because it was 7-0 after three quarters. They conveniently leave out the game was played in a monsoon. Our offense was playing extremely conservative to maintain ball security. I double checked the box score (including drive summaries) to confirm my memory and Miami only crossed mid-field one time and they barely did at that.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-16-2022 10:36 AM)doss2 Wrote:  
(09-16-2022 09:52 AM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  
(09-15-2022 09:39 PM)cpawstoney Wrote:  As Colonel Potter would say, "This is BULL-HOCKEY!" I would used stronger words. Who's the f'n idoit who planned this?

You got 30,000+ people decending on Paycor Stadium between 8AM and Noon and all trhe roads are closed.

Hudy 14K Street Closures

CINCINNATI, OH – The Hudy 14/7K will be held this year on Saturday, September 17, 2022. In order to accommodate this event, the following streets will close at 730AM on Saturday, September 17, 2022, and remain closed until approximately 12PM (Streets west of Paycor Stadium may open earlier as the streets will reopen behind runners):



Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way
Central Avenue- closed south of Third Street
W Pete Rose Way- closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Third Street- eastbound closed between Gest Street and Central Avenue
Gest Street- closed between W Fifth Street and Mehring Way
W Fifth Street- closed between Gest Street and Linn Street
Linn Street- closed between W Eighth Street and Gest Street
Dalton/ Spring Grove Avenue- northbound closed between Linn Street and Harrison Avenue
Harrison/ Central Avenue- eastbound closed between Spring Grove Avenue and Linn Street
Bnks Street- westbound closed between Linn Street and Colerain Avenue
Colerain Avenue- closed between Bank Street and Harrison Avenue
Brighton Approach- closed
McMicken Avenue- eastbound closed between W McMillan Street and Walnut Street
Ravine Street- closed to through traffic between W McMillan Street and Central Parkway
Moore Street- closed between Walnut Street and Liberty Street
Liberty Street- eastbound closed between Vine Street and Reading Road
Reading Road- southbound closed between Liberty Street and Eggleston Avenue
Eggleston Avenue- southbound closed between Central Parkway and E Pete Rose Way
Fifth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
Culvert Street- closed between Butler Street and Third Street
Fourth Street- closed between Eggleston Avenue and Culvert Street
E Pete Rose Way- closed between Johnny Bench Way and Eggleston Avenue
Broadway- closed south of Third Street
Transit Center- closed


Motorists are advised to avoid the area and take alternate routes if possible and to obey directions given by Cincinnati Police officers around the event site.

Mehring Way- closed between Freeman Avenue and E Pete Rose Way That is some really bad planning. Is there another entrance into the Banks parking garage other than Mehring?
UC ticket office pimped parking tickets. I bought one for CRG garage and now you cannot get in? Typical ticket office move!

UC ticket office had nothing to do with this. Garages are owned / tickets sold by the city. UC just provided the quick link to find it.

Contact the traffic dept and express your displeasure. 513-352-2366
 
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Hey. Can i get tickets at the stadium tomorrow. The ticket office can not sell anymore. I guess to close to game time.
 
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(09-16-2022 11:52 AM)Nobones Wrote:  Hey. Can i get tickets at the stadium tomorrow. The ticket office can not sell anymore. I guess to close to game time.

Idk but there are some on SeatGeek and those various websites for decent prices last I checked yesterday.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-15-2022 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Thanks for the kind words - I'm still here, though my girl got a kidney stone this week and I had my bachelor party last weekend so I've been a bit occupied. Nevertheless, like a solider waiting to cross No Man's Land in WWI I've accepted my fate as a Miami fan to the likely result on Saturday. If we had a healthy Gabbert and played perfectly I'd say we have a puncher's chance, even if very slim. With a freshman QB it's even less so. Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.

As a graduate of both schools, I have to admit after last week’s game I ate at the Clifton Pieology (Adriaticos was a long wait), and I could not help but notice how motley UC students are. But they aren’t self-inflated dbags like Miami students. After walking by the band, my brother commented that they were a most unattractive group of people.
 
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RE: "Rivalry" Week: Miami vs. Cincy
(09-16-2022 03:45 PM)BearcatsUC Wrote:  
(09-15-2022 10:39 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:56 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(09-13-2022 05:24 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Miami's message board doesn't even have a thread about the game.

Love and Honor hasn't even stopped by to talk some ****.

This series is past dead.

Love and Honor is a pretty good dude, it’s the Miami (Oh)! guy that drunk posts they are going to kick our arse every year (although I think someone banned him).

Thanks for the kind words - I'm still here, though my girl got a kidney stone this week and I had my bachelor party last weekend so I've been a bit occupied. Nevertheless, like a solider waiting to cross No Man's Land in WWI I've accepted my fate as a Miami fan to the likely result on Saturday. If we had a healthy Gabbert and played perfectly I'd say we have a puncher's chance, even if very slim. With a freshman QB it's even less so. Whatever the case, at least we have the hotter women and Oxford has Clifton beat hands down even if it's come a long way. Go Hawks.

As a graduate of both schools, I have to admit after last week’s game I ate at the Clifton Pieology (Adriaticos was a long wait), and I could not help but notice how motley UC students are. But they aren’t self-inflated dbags like Miami students. After walking by the band, my brother commented that they were a most unattractive group of people.

As a former MUMB member you've basically described at least 80% of all marching band members lol.

I'm of the opinion that while UC's Big East move and drastic improvement as a football program since then is a major factor in where the series stands today, ultimately Miami blew it. Even as UC has become much better on the field since the Kelly era, it would've been mostly competitive since 2006 if we were still a winning program with a few great seasons like we've been through most of our program's history. We were dreadful in the mid-2010s yet almost stole a few games; we didn't, but in a universe where our admin didn't crap the bed after the Big Ben years, the past fifteen games probably would've looked something like a 5-10 record and somewhat more prominence (even if it wouldn't have stopped where you've made it lately under Fickell, which still would've left us a good ways behind).
 
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(09-16-2022 04:17 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  As a former MUMB member you've basically described at least 80% of all marching band members lol.

I'm of the opinion that while UC's Big East move and drastic improvement as a football program since then is a major factor in where the series stands today, ultimately Miami blew it. Even as UC has become much better on the field since the Kelly era, it would've been mostly competitive since 2006 if we were still a winning program with a few great seasons like we've been through most of our program's history. We were dreadful in the mid-2010s yet almost stole a few games; we didn't, but in a universe where our admin didn't crap the bed after the Big Ben years, the past fifteen games probably would've looked something like a 5-10 record and somewhat more prominence (even if it wouldn't have stopped where you've made it lately under Fickell, which still would've left us a good ways behind).

Yeah, Big Ben beat Cincinnati in the three seasons he was under center [2001-2003]. That 2003 season he threw for 4,500 yards and 37 TDs against 10 interceptions. Miami lost the next year but won the following [2005]. It's been 15 losses in a row since and should be 16 in a row after tomorrow.
 
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