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Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Just curious what everyone thought about the topic
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
They should jump on the FCS bandwagon!
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Yes, get rid of divisions.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Yes. Divisions are pointless.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Yes, definitely!
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-28-2022 05:15 PM)doss2 Wrote:  They should jump on the FCS bandwagon!


Tell Muchie Lageaux hes welcome in the Glass bowl anytime for a future FCS game04-chairshot
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
No.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-28-2022 05:15 PM)doss2 Wrote:  They should jump on the FCS bandwagon!

Bowling Green is 4-0 all time against Cincinnati. The MAC is an FBS conference. Maybe take that nonsense to another forum?
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-29-2022 07:50 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  
(08-28-2022 05:15 PM)doss2 Wrote:  They should jump on the FCS bandwagon!

Bowling Green is 4-0 all time against Cincinnati. The MAC is an FBS conference. Maybe take that nonsense to another forum?

Yes, I agree! Not a good look from one of the MAC's charter members!
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-29-2022 08:25 AM)BeatWestern! Wrote:  
(08-29-2022 07:50 AM)Schadenfreude Wrote:  
(08-28-2022 05:15 PM)doss2 Wrote:  They should jump on the FCS bandwagon!

Bowling Green is 4-0 all time against Cincinnati. The MAC is an FBS conference. Maybe take that nonsense to another forum?

Yes, I agree! Not a good look from one of the MAC's charter members!

Cincy fans have become so obnoxious..... Hope Miami(OH) takes it to them this year.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Divisions are pointless IMO. Protect 1 rivalry game a year and then schedule accordingly.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Don't need divisions for basketball but what about football? No conference championship game?
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-29-2022 03:04 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Don't need divisions for basketball but what about football? No conference championship game?

There would still be a conference championship game, it would be the top 2 finishing teams. This is MWC and ACC's last season with divisions.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
The B1G needs to get rid of divisions badly. 4 of the top 5 programs are in the East. Some years Iowa and Wisconsin are still the 2nd best anyways so representation would just be more fair. Maybe a Michigan State or Penn State would emerge more consistently. It would give a needed break to Maryland, Rutgers and Indiana too... they take 4 Ls annually.

Last season Ohio State and Michigan would have had a rematch at a neutral site. Without divisions that game could also rotate to NOT be the final game of the year, which would avoid that rematch being on back to back weeks Most years.

The MAC doing this would give EMU and Ball State (sorry) a better shot historically to make the title game. Miami may get to play Toledo more than once every dozen years.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
No. I’m in favor of keeping the divisions.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
(08-29-2022 04:02 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  The B1G needs to get rid of divisions badly. 4 of the top 5 programs are in the East.

I don't see a problem here.

Fans of the strongest Big Ten programs in the East know they are powerhouses and will still get great bowl games at the end of the season, even if they can't win the division. And fans of the weaker programs in the West will still have more reason to follow along as they chase a slot in the conference title game. Divisions improve fan interest. This is why all the major pro sports leagues have them.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Strongly prefer keeping divisions.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Get rid of divisions! Keep up with the trend of current CFB landscape or drift farther behind IMO. Take the top 2 overall teams and send them to Detroit for the title game.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
I prefer divisions even though the East vs West power is heavily skewed toward the West right now in football.
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RE: Should the MAC jump on the divisionless bandwagon?
Quote:The B1G needs to get rid of divisions badly.

Not with so many teams. You want divisions when you have WAY too many teams. 2 more USC/UCLA joining them soon. That said, you could mix them up, and they will at least slightly with those 2 coming in.

I'm not a fan of the Top 2 playing each other for the Conf Championship, regardless. In basketball -- whomever wins it, wins it. The Conference Tourney is 100% separate, and is the Conference Tournament Championship. One of the reason conferences in basketball, IMO, took away divisions is because of added games from yesteryear (and others were doin' it; doesn't have as big a factor).

B12 had a conf championship game only because it needed one for their top team for a Nat Champ try (13th game W against a good team).

Going this route with conferences -- what other sport does this when it's beyond a tie-breaker game for the conference/division title?

If you have tons of teams in one conference but so few games -- it doesn't make a better argument than the notion of one division's always better than the other (which you can tweak).

EAST:
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Penn State
Maryland
Northwestern
Indiana
Rutgers

WEST:
USC
Wisconsin
Iowa
UCLA
Minnesota
Nebraska
Purdue
Illinois

I don't see that so lopsided once they come in anyway if they move NW or Illinois over to the EAST. 7/12 games for the whole season, including non-conf has to be played within division. That's better to have symmetry and representation within an Over-Sized conference with such few games -- and fight for a championship.

Much better than: OSU up 2 games over the 2nd best, tied with 2 others for a distant 2nd place. Thru tie-breakers the "2nd" place plays OSU for it? (shakes head)

A set Winner of a divison vs a set Winner of a division is the best with such few games & so many teams under the same umbrella. Otherwise, make two difference conferences (after 2 more P12 teams join).
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