(08-24-2022 10:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  It appears clear that DJT did in fact have classified documents in his possession. It also appears that he was cooperating with the NA to return them as he did 15 boxes previously. Why the raid then? Why was it suddenly necessary to raid the home of a former POTUS for the first time in history? My guess? Politics. Im not defending Trump. Those documents had no business in his possession. It could well be that they were mixed up by mistake in other documents that are perfectly fine for him to have. Im sure at some point all of this will become clearer and who is to blame for this. I seriously doubt however that DJT personally packed ANY of those boxes.

The latest reporting I read last night...which keep in mind is from unnamed sources...seems to indicate that trump himself, while maybe not packing up the docs in DC, was in fact very much the keeper of all this and knew exactly what he had, where it was, and that he knew he was not allowed to have it.

Seems like someone or several someone's very close to him rolled.

They raided because they gave him countless opportunities and time to return all of it.

I've learned long ago to not take "unnamed source" as the first avenue for making an opinion about something...regardless of the gang turf it comes from.

Of course...but multiple news outlets are reporting the same thing.

If the multiples are from the same source then I still have the same reservations. Today's media is the laziest bunch in the history of media.

(08-24-2022 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  It appears clear that DJT did in fact have classified documents in his possession. It also appears that he was cooperating with the NA to return them as he did 15 boxes previously. Why the raid then? Why was it suddenly necessary to raid the home of a former POTUS for the first time in history? My guess? Politics. Im not defending Trump. Those documents had no business in his possession. It could well be that they were mixed up by mistake in other documents that are perfectly fine for him to have. Im sure at some point all of this will become clearer and who is to blame for this. I seriously doubt however that DJT personally packed ANY of those boxes.

The latest reporting I read last night...which keep in mind is from unnamed sources...seems to indicate that trump himself, while maybe not packing up the docs in DC, was in fact very much the keeper of all this and knew exactly what he had, where it was, and that he knew he was not allowed to have it.

Seems like someone or several someone's very close to him rolled.

They raided because they gave him countless opportunities and time to return all of it.

I've learned long ago to not take "unnamed source" as the first avenue for making an opinion about something...regardless of the gang turf it comes from.

Of course...but multiple news outlets are reporting the same thing.

If the multiples are from the same source then I still have the same reservations. Today's media is the laziest bunch in the history of media.

Are you operating on the assumption that they want to provide truth? Might be a mistake to do that...... just saying.

(08-24-2022 10:33 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:18 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:44 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 09:33 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  It appears clear that DJT did in fact have classified documents in his possession. It also appears that he was cooperating with the NA to return them as he did 15 boxes previously. Why the raid then? Why was it suddenly necessary to raid the home of a former POTUS for the first time in history? My guess? Politics. Im not defending Trump. Those documents had no business in his possession. It could well be that they were mixed up by mistake in other documents that are perfectly fine for him to have. Im sure at some point all of this will become clearer and who is to blame for this. I seriously doubt however that DJT personally packed ANY of those boxes.

The latest reporting I read last night...which keep in mind is from unnamed sources...seems to indicate that trump himself, while maybe not packing up the docs in DC, was in fact very much the keeper of all this and knew exactly what he had, where it was, and that he knew he was not allowed to have it.

Seems like someone or several someone's very close to him rolled.

They raided because they gave him countless opportunities and time to return all of it.

I've learned long ago to not take "unnamed source" as the first avenue for making an opinion about something...regardless of the gang turf it comes from.

Of course...but multiple news outlets are reporting the same thing.

If the multiples are from the same source then I still have the same reservations. Today's media is the laziest bunch in the history of media.

At what point is everything just confirmation bias? Anyone putting blind trust in the same media outlets are really the most uninformed people on planet earth.

(08-24-2022 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:31 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:21 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:01 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  This is not hard to figure out folks.

Some of the same people (Lisa Monaco DOJ) and bureaucrats in the FBI that were involved the Russia collusion hoax is involved here. There is clear benefit of doubt on their uprightness and integrity because of the previous political investigation.

The selective leaks to the same media while demanding secrecy in the investigation is the same playbook as Russia collusion. Stop going over and over on something that’s not hard to figure out

The selective leaks from the DOJ and FBI...

Can you cite one "leak" that came from either the DOJ or the FBI in this matter? With a credible source?

Maggie Haberman of NYT. The go-to person the DOJ and FBI leak to. They did it to her in Russia collusion and they are leaking to her right now about the raid investigation

So, that's your opinion...got it.

You’re being obtuse. Look at her twitter threads. She’s posting articles base off of information from ‘those close to the investigation’.

That’s FBI or DOJ

Forget it..

See how it works:

Anonymous source to conservative outlet- Quack or unreliable
Anonymous source to lib outlet- Should be trusted

Claim to be a democrat until called out- Wrong
Claim to be an Independent until called out- Wrong

Claim to be an Independent that votes Democrat until called out- wrong
Claim to be a liberal that's an Independent until called out- wrong

Call everyone else dishonest while claiming to be the most honest person ever.

This is the SOP.

(08-24-2022 10:55 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:31 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:28 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(08-24-2022 10:21 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  The selective leaks from the DOJ and FBI...

Can you cite one "leak" that came from either the DOJ or the FBI in this matter? With a credible source?

Maggie Haberman of NYT. The go-to person the DOJ and FBI leak to. They did it to her in Russia collusion and they are leaking to her right now about the raid investigation

So, that's your opinion...got it.

You’re being obtuse. Look at her twitter threads. She’s posting articles base off of information from ‘those close to the investigation’.

That’s FBI or DOJ

Or team trump