the easy answer is SMU..
they already have a strong base for football... if you are counting quality of transfers they are probably going to be the #1 recruiting g5 and it might not be close until usf figures itself out.
they have money naturally, but know they are next in line for the pac12 and big 12 ..so the motivation not to lose now will open up some wallets

in basketball their new coach is a great recruiter .. they could be #1 in funding, #1 in football recruiting, top 2 in basketball recruiting

#2 in memphis- the foundation in football and basketball is there, just not the momentum...but with an already established foundation it's not a long road for them to get back to the top

#3 uab has stong momentum at both sports, but has to crack the glass ceiling of being viewed as a g5, they have perception battle

#4 USF - highest ceiling in the conference left, they are the one team in this conference if winning could recruit at a top 25 level in football, the 1st 4/5 years of the aac they dominated the league in recruiting (including departing members) despite no major success (but losing eventually affected recruiting)... they just dont know how to win .. immense student body too.. if the aac magic is ever to be reclaimed imo it needs dominant usf to reemerge

#5 temple, opposite of uab, they have the brand they just lack any momentum right now

#6 ecu/utsa/fau - they probably can compete at the top of the aac in football right away (in 2 years), but even if they won, it would likely take multiple years of winning to change the brand perception and be put among the nations top and not seen as "good for a g5"

no offense to navy, the recruiting hurdles makes it hard to rank too high or project , no offense to tulane but i think if you ever had a coach that broke to ceiling and took tulane to the next level theyd be hired away quick

You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

(08-06-2022 09:39 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-06-2022 09:33 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  As if the presence of UC/UCF/UH were holding any of these guys back.

If any of these yokels were ever going to be anything, they'd have done so by now.

Must suck having a g5 school with more money to pay players than your “p5” school

Must suck watching better players go to our school anyway.

(08-06-2022 03:27 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Which AAC-14 (AAC 2.0) schools will be considered national "brands" 5-10 years after UC, UH, UCF leave?

Navy is already a National Brand. Everyone else unfortunately will be CUSAAC 2.0, unless USF is able to escape to the B12, or the ACC when it's GOR's expires and gets picked clean.

(08-06-2022 03:27 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Which AAC-14 (AAC 2.0) schools will be considered national "brands" 5-10 years after UC, UH, UCF leave?

(08-07-2022 08:11 AM)panite Wrote:  Navy is already a National Brand.

True. It's undeniable that Navy is such a well-established national brand that its status as a major brand is not even slightly diminished by its lack of FB success the past two seasons. Hopefully, they'll maintain that brand over the next 5-10 years and beyond.

(08-07-2022 08:11 AM)panite Wrote:  Everyone else unfortunately will be CUSAAC 2.0, unless USF is able to escape to the B12, or the ACC when it's GOR's expires and gets picked clean.

Disagree. Navy isn't the only national brand in the conference, and everyone else will not be "CUSAAC 2.0" unless they join P5 conferences.

Cincinnati and Houston have already established national brands - at least in football and basketball, respectively, and Wichita State is certainly a nationally-recognized basketball school.

Memphis (basketball, in particular) is a re-emerging national brand, and could become a full-fledged major brand with an extended period of football success.

Once Cincy, UCF, and Houston depart, there will be room for at least 1 or 2 new nationally-recognized brands to develop in the AAC.

National brands are not exclusive to the P5.

Examples of nationally-recognized non-P5 brands include Gonzaga, Villanova, UConn, Houston, and Memphis basketball, and Army, Air Force, Cincinnati, BYU, UCF, Boise State, and increasingly, Appalachian State football.

Non-P5 schools that have had nationally recognized brands in the past have included Georgetown, St. John's, Seton Hall, DePaul, and Temple basketball and SMU, Yale, Harvard, Penn, and Princeton football. It wouldn't take more than a few years of major success for some of these schools to redevelop the national recognition that they had a decade or two ago.

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(08-07-2022 12:08 AM)pesik Wrote:  the easy answer is SMU..
they already have a strong base for football... if you are counting quality of transfers they are probably going to be the #1 recruiting g5 and it might not be close until usf figures itself out.
they have money naturally, but know they are next in line for the pac12 and big 12 ..so the motivation not to lose now will open up some wallets

in basketball their new coach is a great recruiter .. they could be #1 in funding, #1 in football recruiting, top 2 in basketball recruiting

#2 in memphis- the foundation in football and basketball is there, just not the momentum...but with an already established foundation it's not a long road for them to get back to the top

#3 uab has stong momentum at both sports, but has to crack the glass ceiling of being viewed as a g5, they have perception battle

#4 USF - highest ceiling in the conference left, they are the one team in this conference if winning could recruit at a top 25 level in football, the 1st 4/5 years of the aac they dominated the league in recruiting (including departing members) despite no major success (but losing eventually affected recruiting)... they just dont know how to win .. immense student body too.. if the aac magic is ever to be reclaimed imo it needs dominant usf to reemerge

#5 temple, opposite of uab, they have the brand they just lack any momentum right now

#6 ecu/utsa/fau - they probably can compete at the top of the aac in football right away (in 2 years), but even if they won, it would likely take multiple years of winning to change the brand perception and be put among the nations top and not seen as "good for a g5"

no offense to navy, the recruiting hurdles makes it hard to rank too high or project , no offense to tulane but i think if you ever had a coach that broke to ceiling and took tulane to the next level theyd be hired away quick

I'd rank the future brand potential of these schools a bit differently, but I wholeheartedly agree that some new national brands may emerge from the AAC in the coming decade.

There may be a couple of surprises.

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(08-07-2022 08:54 AM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-06-2022 03:27 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  .

Which AAC-14 (AAC 2.0) schools will be considered national "brands" 5-10 years after UC, UH, UCF leave?

(08-07-2022 08:11 AM)panite Wrote:  Navy is already a National Brand.

True. It's undeniable that Navy is such a well-established national brand that its status as a major brand is not even slightly diminished by its lack of FB success the past two seasons. Hopefully, they'll maintain that brand over the next 5-10 years and beyond.

(08-07-2022 08:11 AM)panite Wrote:  Everyone else unfortunately will be CUSAAC 2.0, unless USF is able to escape to the B12, or the ACC when it's GOR's expires and gets picked clean.

Disagree. Navy isn't the only national brand in the conference, and everyone else will not be "CUSAAC 2.0" unless they join P5 conferences.

Cincinnati and Houston have already established national brands - at least in football and basketball, respectively, and Wichita State is certainly a nationally-recognized basketball school.

Memphis (basketball, in particular) is a re-emerging national brand, and could become a full-fledged major brand with an extended period of football success.

Once Cincy, UCF, and Houston depart, there will be room for at least 1 or 2 new nationally-recognized brands to develop in the AAC.

National brands are not exclusive to the P5.

Examples of nationally-recognized non-P5 brands include Gonzaga, Villanova, UConn, Houston, and Memphis basketball, and Army, Air Force, Cincinnati, BYU, UCF, Boise State, and increasingly, Appalachian State football.

Non-P5 schools that have had nationally recognized brands in the past have included Georgetown, St. John's, Seton Hall, DePaul, and Temple basketball and SMU, Yale, Harvard, Penn, and Princeton football. It wouldn't take more than a few years of major success for some of these schools to redevelop the national recognition that they had a decade or two ago.

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Cinn, UCF, Houston - national brands - not on list - will be gone.
Army, Air Force, BYU - national brands but not on the list.
Boise dropping national brand value - fading to regional again - not on list.
UConn, Villanova, Georgetown - national brands with National Championships - not on list.

Ivy Schools' national EDUCATIONAL BRANDS - but not on original list.
SMU national DEATH PENALTY BRAND feud with Texas.

Remaining schools in AAC 2.0 and others mentioned but not on list - I view as REGIONAL but not NATIONAL BRANDS. JMO for what it is worth.

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Good luck in all of USF future endeavors.

(08-07-2022 02:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Good luck in all of USF future endeavors.

Enjoy your next venture USF

Only Navy. Just like they're our only national brand now.


Go to any crappy sports store in a mall outside of your regional area and I gurantee your school isn't represented.

(08-07-2022 02:45 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 02:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Good luck in all of USF future endeavors.

Enjoy your next venture USF

We're going to rebrand as the Notre Dame of the South. We've already got the right school colors.

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Don’t bother with voting SMU and USF…..they’re rumor to go independent with ND. My guess NBC will pay all 3 schools at least 80M each.

(08-07-2022 03:47 PM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Don’t bother with voting SMU and USF…..they’re rumor to go independent with ND. My guess NBC will pay all 3 schools at least 80M each.

Wow! Who told you? It was supposed to be a secret.

(08-07-2022 03:45 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 02:45 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 02:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Good luck in all of USF future endeavors.

Enjoy your next venture USF

We're going to rebrand as the Notre Dame of the South. We've already got the right school colors.

The fighting Irish Bulls. I like it.

(08-07-2022 03:47 PM)uofmlimbo Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Don’t bother with voting SMU and USF…..they’re rumor to go independent with ND. My guess NBC will pay all 3 schools at least 80M each.

Maybe we should all go independent. Couldn’t call us the G5 anymore if we did that.

Current poll results:

1. Memphis
2. SMU
3. UAB
4. ECU ?
5. (tie) Temple
5. (tie) USF
5. (tie) UTSA
8. Navy/Wichita St.
9. North Texas
10. (tie) Tulane
10. (tie) Charlotte
12. (tie) FAU
12. (tie) Tulsa
14. Rice

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(08-07-2022 03:56 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 03:45 PM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 02:45 PM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 02:01 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Good luck in all of USF future endeavors.

Enjoy your next venture USF

We're going to rebrand as the Notre Dame of the South. We've already got the right school colors.

The fighting Irish Bulls. I like it.

Already have Green as a color

Current poll results:

1. Memphis
2. SMU
3. UAB
4. ECU ?
5. (tie) Temple
5. (tie) USF
5. (tie) UTSA
8. Navy/Wichita St.
9. North Texas
10. (tie) Tulane
10. (tie) Charlotte
12. (tie) FAU
12. (tie) Tulsa
14. Rice


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(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Lol. Yall were 2-10 last year. 1-8 the year before. 4-8 the year before. You had a self reported attendance of 28K last year. You have a fanbase of 450K according to the New York Times. (UCF has 780K). And somehow you're leaving to greener pastures on these numbers? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. *gasp* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL *gasp* Wait what?

(08-07-2022 05:13 PM)knight_02 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 06:17 AM)BCSvsBS Wrote:  You can leave USF off the list. USF will be leaving the AAC in 2025-2026. Not sure where they are headed. They will be departing just the same.

Lol. Yall were 2-10 last year. 1-8 the year before. 4-8 the year before. You had a self reported attendance of 28K last year. You have a fanbase of 450K according to the New York Times. (UCF has 780K). And somehow you're leaving to greener pastures on these numbers? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. *gasp* LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL *gasp* Wait what?

Like flies to a flame.