(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 12:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...adium.aspx

GVSU shows an example how to add field level seating after a removing their track.

Here is their seating diagram showing what appears similar to be new seating on both sides and one endzone.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/19/...aspx?id=43


See 4th paragraph about lowering field and added ing 2k seats. Doubt. EMU would need to lower the field and could add say 4 rows of seats endline to endline on the home side.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...0campaign.

Don't know what to do with east stand side. Some for visual appeal?

Since no/none of those seats are handicapped accessible! I think it's outrageous bad! A total waste of time and money! Handicapped seating is outrageously bad as it is! and now this!

Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

(11-23-2023 07:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...adium.aspx

GVSU shows an example how to add field level seating after a removing their track.

Here is their seating diagram showing what appears similar to be new seating on both sides and one endzone.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/19/...aspx?id=43


See 4th paragraph about lowering field and added ing 2k seats. Doubt. EMU would need to lower the field and could add say 4 rows of seats endline to endline on the home side.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...0campaign.

Don't know what to do with east stand side. Some for visual appeal?

if you look at it carefully you will notice? No handicapped access anywhere!

(11-23-2023 07:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 12:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...adium.aspx

GVSU shows an example how to add field level seating after a removing their track.

Here is their seating diagram showing what appears similar to be new seating on both sides and one endzone.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/19/...aspx?id=43


See 4th paragraph about lowering field and added ing 2k seats. Doubt. EMU would need to lower the field and could add say 4 rows of seats endline to endline on the home side.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...0campaign.

Don't know what to do with east stand side. Some for visual appeal?

Since no/none of those seats are handicapped accessible! I think it's outrageous bad! A total waste of time and money! Handicapped seating is outrageously bad as it is! and now this!

Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

Trying to understand what you wrote:

1). You have a lot of complaints about handicap seating, access, restrooms, etc.

2). I don't understand how adding field level seats changes anything for the better or worse.

3). I am still not sure where handicap seating is. Secction number? Rows? As I don't have a mental picture I have a hard time responding. Are the seats in the southern most section nearest the GG GAC? The section that was added in 1991, I think.

All I know about handicap facilities is that I went to games with Bill Fennel. Bill was I guess 94 and we got special parking and rode the cart. Bill never sat in handicapped seating.

(11-23-2023 08:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  p

(11-23-2023 12:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...adium.aspx

GVSU shows an example how to add field level seating after a removing their track.

Here is their seating diagram showing what appears similar to be new seating on both sides and one endzone.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/19/...aspx?id=43


See 4th paragraph about lowering field and added ing 2k seats. Doubt. EMU would need to lower the field and could add say 4 rows of seats endline to endline on the home side.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...0campaign.

Don't know what to do with east stand side. Some for visual appeal?

Since no/none of those seats are handicapped accessible! I think it's outrageous bad! A total waste of time and money! Handicapped seating is outrageously bad as it is! and now this!

Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

Trying to understand what you wrote:

1). You have a lot of complaints about handicap seating, access, restrooms, etc.

2). I don't understand how adding field level seats changes anything for the better or worse.

3). I am still not sure where handicap seating is. Secction number? Rows? As I don't have a mental picture I have a hard time responding.

All I know about handicap facilities is that I went to games with Bill Fennel. Bill was I guess 94 and we got special parking and rode the cart.

I understand since you've support the handicapped as long it doesn't cost anything. And you're not mobility impaired.
They will be spending millions on the upgrades not one cent for better handicapped access. The home handicapped seating on south west side closest to the convo sections 110-114 concourse level look it up on the stadium seating layout. The cart can't handle wheelchairs nor those that use walkers. My main difficulty isn't walking but sitting. I have to have my knees below my waist. On the visitors side the whole concourse level is handicapped accessible. And it has handicapped accessible restrooms. No concessions for the last few years. No tea for you.

(11-23-2023 08:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 12:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:51 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...adium.aspx

GVSU shows an example how to add field level seating after a removing their track.

Here is their seating diagram showing what appears similar to be new seating on both sides and one endzone.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/19/...aspx?id=43


See 4th paragraph about lowering field and added ing 2k seats. Doubt. EMU would need to lower the field and could add say 4 rows of seats endline to endline on the home side.

https://gvsulakers.com/sports/2014/6/23/...0campaign.

Don't know what to do with east stand side. Some for visual appeal?

Since no/none of those seats are handicapped accessible! I think it's outrageous bad! A total waste of time and money! Handicapped seating is outrageously bad as it is! and now this!

Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

Trying to understand what you wrote:

1). You have a lot of complaints about handicap seating, access, restrooms, etc.

2). I don't understand how adding field level seats changes anything for the better or worse.

3). I am still not sure where handicap seating is. Secction number? Rows? As I don't have a mental picture I have a hard time responding. Are the seats in the southern most section nearest the GG GAC? The section that was added in 1991, I think.

All I know about handicap facilities is that I went to games with Bill Fennel. Bill was I guess 94 and we got special parking and rode the cart.

And furthermore you never understood the handicapped nor what it means to be one.
There are divisions the handicapped community just as there in every community. When ADA was first being written only those in wheelchairs supported it and wanted it to only pertain to them. It had no chance of passing.
So it came to pass and the disabled community as a whole learned to include most disabled people. Because then we had the numbers to back it up. We fought people like you who wanted to narrow it back down. To remove any penalties and make it purely voluntary.
We fought for access businesses, educational institutions, voting access, ramps, wider and automatic doors, for curbs cuts, braille information plates, bus and other transportation services, parking. And that fight continues to this day. What did you fight for?
You don't see it because you refuse to see it.

(11-23-2023 09:14 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 08:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  p

(11-23-2023 12:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  Since no/none of those seats are handicapped accessible! I think it's outrageous bad! A total waste of time and money! Handicapped seating is outrageously bad as it is! and now this!

Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

Trying to understand what you wrote:

1). You have a lot of complaints about handicap seating, access, restrooms, etc.

2). I don't understand how adding field level seats changes anything for the better or worse.

3). I am still not sure where handicap seating is. Secction number? Rows? As I don't have a mental picture I have a hard time responding.

All I know about handicap facilities is that I went to games with Bill Fennel. Bill was I guess 94 and we got special parking and rode the cart.

I understand since you've support the handicapped as long it doesn't cost anything. And you're not mobility impaired.
They will be spending millions on the upgrades not one cent for better handicapped access. The home handicapped seating on south west side closest to the convo sections 110-114 concourse level look it up on the stadium seating layout. The cart can't handle wheelchairs nor those that use walkers. My main difficulty isn't walking but sitting. I have to have my knees below my waist. On the visitors side the whole concourse level is handicapped accessible. And it has handicapped accessible restrooms. No concessions for the last few years. No tea for you.

If I understand you:

The East stands are handicap accessible, as it was built in 1991.

Most of the West stands date back to the 1960s. In the 60s no one,understood ADA issues in stadiums, churches, etc.

No coffee in the east stands.

P..S. I''m not handicapped, I walked a 5k today. I did have a knee replacement 5 years ago,and DO understand toilets. I had to use a raised seat. Anyone with knee issues, etc. Should have a raised seat.,

I never complain but all facilities with 2 or more toilets at least one should be raised. It has to do with.flexing the knee. A low seat stresses the knee by compressing the knee joint.

As far as handicapped and toilets, I would think they are recommended for most seniors.and grab bars in bath tubs, etc.

(11-23-2023 09:31 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 09:14 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 08:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 07:28 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 02:42 PM)emu steve Wrote:  p
Please explain the current handicap seating, why it makes it worse and bonus question: how would you improve it?

I've done this many times. So for those who refuse to read my posts I'll explain it again. Knowing that it was people like you we had to fight to get the ADA passed and why it so weak now. People with your mind set had us compromise the teeth out of it.
The closest handicapped seating on the home field side, home field mind you. Is 100 feet from the edge of the playing field. Also it is even with the very back of end zone. So we have a great view of an incomplete pass just off the end zone. It's the seating they can't normally sell. Also the benches behind you/me if someone is there isn't enough room for people walk behind to not kick the wheels of your chair. There are no handicapped capable restrooms, or there weren't handicapped portajohns until complaints. There are no concessions. To get to any of the special activities down by the main entrance we have go the gate and at the beginning of season we would have to buy another ticket to get back in. And then there's the time involved. Even if you can get transportation down and back "which if you are in a chair isn't possible at this time" you'll miss a full quarter of the game. And if you did get back it was highly likely someone else was in your spot, that is even you could get there. This is what it was like during Howard game. During the rest of the year that area was mostly empty. Unlike non-handicapped people we who have spine injuries and have to use the bathroom also have to use the toilet seat. If you think it's bad for women it's a lot worst for those of use that have to use it. I have carry my own sanitation wipes. Anything you wish to learn please ask. I've been fighting this fight for over 48 years. One of the reasons the convo got built was that agreed to support it if they would make 8 of the seats only 8 handicapped seats at floor level! The first thing they cut was those seats! I still have the plans they gave me the plans have those 8 seats on it! So don't come to me and ask why!?

Trying to understand what you wrote:

1). You have a lot of complaints about handicap seating, access, restrooms, etc.

2). I don't understand how adding field level seats changes anything for the better or worse.

3). I am still not sure where handicap seating is. Secction number? Rows? As I don't have a mental picture I have a hard time responding.

All I know about handicap facilities is that I went to games with Bill Fennel. Bill was I guess 94 and we got special parking and rode the cart.

I understand since you've support the handicapped as long it doesn't cost anything. And you're not mobility impaired.
They will be spending millions on the upgrades not one cent for better handicapped access. The home handicapped seating on south west side closest to the convo sections 110-114 concourse level look it up on the stadium seating layout. The cart can't handle wheelchairs nor those that use walkers. My main difficulty isn't walking but sitting. I have to have my knees below my waist. On the visitors side the whole concourse level is handicapped accessible. And it has handicapped accessible restrooms. No concessions for the last few years. No tea for you.

If I understand you:

The East stands are handicap accessible, as it was built in 1991.

Most of the West stands date back to the 1960s. In the 60s no one,understood ADA issues in stadiums, churches, etc.

No coffee in the east stands.

P..S. I''m not handicapped, I walked a 5k today. I did have a knee replacement 5 years ago,and DO understand toilets. I had to use a raised seat. Anyone with knee issues, etc. Should have a raised seat.,

I never complain but all facilities with 2 or more toilets at least one should be raised. It has to do with.flexing the knee. A low seat stresses the knee by compressing the knee joint.

The sections 110-114 with handicapped seat was added in 1991 I think before the ADA. Bob England helped get it built. The handicapped seats for caregivers wasn't added until a few years ago. Not enough room to walk around like the east side. It was also known that the ADA was going into effect in a couple of years. So the east side is much more handicapped accessible.
I have yet to find a handicap toilet with a raised seat. The first handicapped area in the home side is just below where the band and students section are. Sucks. You have to stay back from rails against the wall. Before security people there were people always standing in front of you. I was able to convince them to add security to stop that but then the security guards would stand at the rails. But security left after halftime so did the people standing in front of you. That's why I sit on the east side.

If you want to talk about handicap issues. I'll talk your ears off. Remember I was students with disabilities representative for 3 years at EMU.

And this is another reason why I fight for disability rights. If these numbers were for the average citizen there would be riots in the streets. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/disabl....pectively.

We haven’t had decent restrooms on the West side since forever. They aren’t fit for any humans, particularly those with disabilities. Same with concessions.

It’s an embarrassment.

(11-23-2023 11:36 PM)holybovine Wrote:  We haven’t had decent restrooms on the East side since forever. They aren’t fit for any humans, particularly those with disabilities. Same with concessions.

It’s an embarrassment.

I think you mean the west side. The east side has two for each that hold 15 to 20 and iatr heated.

(11-24-2023 06:09 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 11:36 PM)holybovine Wrote:  We haven’t had decent restrooms on the East side since forever. They aren’t fit for any humans, particularly those with disabilities. Same with concessions.

It’s an embarrassment.

I think you mean the west side. The east side has two for each that hold 15 to 20 and iatr heated.

Yes you are right — thank you for the correction.

(11-24-2023 12:15 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 06:09 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 11:36 PM)holybovine Wrote:  We haven’t had decent restrooms on the East side since forever. They aren’t fit for any humans, particularly those with disabilities. Same with concessions.

It’s an embarrassment.

I think you mean the west side. The east side has two for each that hold 15 to 20 and iatr heated.

Yes you are right — thank you for the correction.

Okay. I get it:

1). The EAST SIDE is fine. ADA. Restrooms. And so on.

2). The WEST SIDE is problematic for ADA and the restrooms and concessions are not good.

IF EMU had big bucks, they would demo the West stands and rebuild them and a new press box.

(11-24-2023 12:32 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 12:15 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 06:09 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-23-2023 11:36 PM)holybovine Wrote:  We haven’t had decent restrooms on the East side since forever. They aren’t fit for any humans, particularly those with disabilities. Same with concessions.

It’s an embarrassment.

I think you mean the west side. The east side has two for each that hold 15 to 20 and iatr heated.

Yes you are right — thank you for the correction.

Okay. I get it:

1). The EAST SIDE is fine. ADA. Restrooms. And so on.

2). The WEST SIDE is problematic for ADA and the restrooms and concessions are not good.

IF EMU had big bucks, they would demo the West stands and rebuild them and a new press box.

Problematic? lol! Non-existent is more like it. They will be spending well over a million dollars modifying the field. From what I've been told and seen not one dollar will go towards to bettering handicapped access. Which go's against the ADA.

Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

(11-24-2023 05:36 PM)masttg Wrote:  Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

Couple points:

1). I like the thought.

2). I'll make a wild guess that what you describe might cost say 75M.

3). Those of us baby boomers, realize that back then, 50 years ago, social justice wasn't in our vocabulary. VA and private agencies have led the way in handicap issues as modern wars now see more wounded survive and many have sevvere disabilities.

(11-24-2023 05:36 PM)masttg Wrote:  Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

Still laughing about that one Tom! Firestone is no longer a corporate entity, it was bought by Japan based Bridgestone in 1988. Bridgestone North American operations are based in Nashville, and they are indeed the sponsor of the hockey arena there, but I see no salient financial support for Vandy athletics either.

They do, however, match my donations up to $5K a year to EMU. I appreciate that but that does not go very far in terms of Cap Ex for a University. Still laughing by the way, professor.

(11-24-2023 06:11 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 05:36 PM)masttg Wrote:  Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

Couple points:

1). I like the thought.

2). I'll make a wild guess that what you describe might cost say 75M.

3). Those of us baby boomers, realize that back then, 50 years ago, social justice wasn't in our vocabulary. VA and private agencies have led the way in handicap issues as modern wars now see more wounded survive and many have sevvere disabilities.

Turns out WKU is proposing something similar. https://www.lanereport.com/169170/2023/1...press-box/
Their budget is $35 million

(11-25-2023 06:29 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 06:11 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 05:36 PM)masttg Wrote:  Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

Couple points:

1). I like the thought.

2). I'll make a wild guess that what you describe might cost say 75M.

3). Those of us baby boomers, realize that back then, 50 years ago, social justice wasn't in our vocabulary. VA and private agencies have led the way in handicap issues as modern wars now see more wounded survive and many have sevvere disabilities.

Turns out WKU is proposing something similar. https://www.lanereport.com/169170/2023/1...press-box/
Their budget is $35 million

Good find but they are using the existing side of the STADIUM.

Maybe we can demo the West side stands and what you posted for say 50M.

(11-25-2023 06:54 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-25-2023 06:29 PM)masttg Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 06:11 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-24-2023 05:36 PM)masttg Wrote:  Super is right--Rynerson is a nightmare for disabled folks.

Knock down the West stands. Move the field closer to the East stands. Build an indoor track facility where the West stands were. Put loges, a balcony, and a press box in the track facility overhanging the field. Now we have a modern press box, cool corporate suites, ADA-compliance, and the loudest 20,000 seat stadium in college football.

Jerry, do you think Firestone will pay for this?

Couple points:

1). I like the thought.

2). I'll make a wild guess that what you describe might cost say 75M.

3). Those of us baby boomers, realize that back then, 50 years ago, social justice wasn't in our vocabulary. VA and private agencies have led the way in handicap issues as modern wars now see more wounded survive and many have sevvere disabilities.

Turns out WKU is proposing something similar. https://www.lanereport.com/169170/2023/1...press-box/
Their budget is $35 million

Good find but they are using the existing side of the STADIUM.

Maybe we can demo the West side stands and what you posted for say 50M.

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Great news for EMU athletic facilities. Details in this link.

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Botton line: athletes, staff, athletic administration, etc. must feel like they died and went to heaven.

As good as it gets for EMU athletics.

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