(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

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(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

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The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

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The BIG 12 teams will mot leave the BIG 12. So you can cancel that now! They will add but selective teams that will grow the conference! Memphis and probably SMU and that is it!

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

I dont get people reluctance to believe that SMU is a hot commodity right now. The PAC or ACC could pick them up and its one of the few institutions that has the pedigree and history to REALLY fire up their program.
I remember what SMU could have been if they didnt have that minor little death penalty.

Whomever blinks will either have to not get into texas or hope that Rice somehow gets their act together.

And not a knock on Memphis, who I fully believe will end up in the Big 12, but I dont see the PAC taking them. I dont care what anyone says, academics matter. Honestly, Memphis is more culturally a big 12 schools than ACC.

No Big 12 schools are paying an exit fee to get into the ACC, so theres three more off that list.

I know for a fact that USF has had talks with the ACC and they have told us what they would like to see. They do have interest and no, its not only if FSU or Miami leave. With that said, I dont expect anything to happen for five years or more.
Big 12 conversations have happened too.

If ACC expansion happens and its down to USF, Temple, Tulane and Uconn , I feel good about where we are positioned.

(08-07-2022 10:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

I dont get people reluctance to believe that SMU is a hot commodity right now. The PAC or ACC could pick them up and its one of the few institutions that has the pedigree and history to REALLY fire up their program.
I remember what SMU could have been if they didnt have that minor little death penalty.

Whomever blinks will either have to not get into texas or hope that Rice somehow gets their act together.

And not a knock on Memphis, who I fully believe will end up in the Big 12, but I dont see the PAC taking them. I dont care what anyone says, academics matter. Honestly, Memphis is more culturally a big 12 schools than ACC.

No Big 12 schools are paying an exit fee to get into the ACC, so theres three more off that list.

I know for a fact that USF has had talks with the ACC and they have told us what they would like to see. They do have interest and no, its not only if FSU or Miami leave. With that said, I dont expect anything to happen for five years or more.
Big 12 conversations have happened too.

If ACC expansion happens and its down to USF, Temple, Tulane and Uconn , I feel good about where we are positioned.

UConn football might not be top notch, but UConn is huge in Connecticut, they are all over the state and are involved in everything... Never realized just how prominent they in that state.

(08-07-2022 01:55 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 10:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

I dont get people reluctance to believe that SMU is a hot commodity right now. The PAC or ACC could pick them up and its one of the few institutions that has the pedigree and history to REALLY fire up their program.
I remember what SMU could have been if they didnt have that minor little death penalty.

Whomever blinks will either have to not get into texas or hope that Rice somehow gets their act together.

And not a knock on Memphis, who I fully believe will end up in the Big 12, but I dont see the PAC taking them. I dont care what anyone says, academics matter. Honestly, Memphis is more culturally a big 12 schools than ACC.

No Big 12 schools are paying an exit fee to get into the ACC, so theres three more off that list.

I know for a fact that USF has had talks with the ACC and they have told us what they would like to see. They do have interest and no, its not only if FSU or Miami leave. With that said, I dont expect anything to happen for five years or more.
Big 12 conversations have happened too.

If ACC expansion happens and its down to USF, Temple, Tulane and Uconn , I feel good about where we are positioned.

UConn football might not be top notch, but UConn is huge in Connecticut, they are all over the state and are involved in everything... Never realized just how prominent they in that state.

I am surprised Uconn hasn't gotten into the ACC. I've heard that Boston College doesn't want them and some of the new England schools don't want the competition.

There was an old Uconn fan that laid out their value, and there's more there than most realize. Uconn pulls really well in New York and they totally carry their market.

Part of Uconns draw is its popularity within the New York market. If true, then Uconn might help the ACC network be on basic cable in New York and that would definitely make them worth the add.

That would be my personal dream come true is for Uconn and USF to make it into the ACC. Long term I know it will get destroyed, just like all the others. Just hate that Cinci and WVU will probably be in the Big 12 and more than likely USF and Uconn in the ACC. Would love for all of us to be together again.

(08-08-2022 08:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 01:55 PM)GoOwls111 Wrote:  

(08-07-2022 10:37 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

I dont get people reluctance to believe that SMU is a hot commodity right now. The PAC or ACC could pick them up and its one of the few institutions that has the pedigree and history to REALLY fire up their program.
I remember what SMU could have been if they didnt have that minor little death penalty.

Whomever blinks will either have to not get into texas or hope that Rice somehow gets their act together.

And not a knock on Memphis, who I fully believe will end up in the Big 12, but I dont see the PAC taking them. I dont care what anyone says, academics matter. Honestly, Memphis is more culturally a big 12 schools than ACC.

No Big 12 schools are paying an exit fee to get into the ACC, so theres three more off that list.

I know for a fact that USF has had talks with the ACC and they have told us what they would like to see. They do have interest and no, its not only if FSU or Miami leave. With that said, I dont expect anything to happen for five years or more.
Big 12 conversations have happened too.

If ACC expansion happens and its down to USF, Temple, Tulane and Uconn , I feel good about where we are positioned.

UConn football might not be top notch, but UConn is huge in Connecticut, they are all over the state and are involved in everything... Never realized just how prominent they in that state.

I am surprised Uconn hasn't gotten into the ACC. I've heard that Boston College doesn't want them and some of the new England schools don't want the competition.

There was an old Uconn fan that laid out their value, and there's more there than most realize. Uconn pulls really well in New York and they totally carry their market.

Part of Uconns draw is its popularity within the New York market. If true, then Uconn might help the ACC network be on basic cable in New York and that would definitely make them worth the add.

That would be my personal dream come true is for Uconn and USF to make it into the ACC. Long term I know it will get destroyed, just like all the others. Just hate that Cinci and WVU will probably be in the Big 12 and more than likely USF and Uconn in the ACC. Would love for all of us to be together again.

That possibility existed in the ACC, but the "Instant gratification" for money weakened the AAC before it had a chance to negotiate from strength,

Potential AAC:
From the BIG EAST:
University of Cincinnati
University of Connecticut
University of Louisville
University of Pittsburgh
Rutgers University
University of South Florida
Syracuse University
West Virginia University

Additions to keep up with the "JONES":
Temple University
Texas Christian University
Boise State University
San Diego State University
United States Naval Academy/Wichita State University (Strong)
University of Central Florida
University of Houston
University of Memphis
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This conference would have probably maintained its bowl affiliation and would have remained a strong Power 6.

This conference would have been able to negotiate from strength and neen on par with ACC, BIG XII, and PAC-??.

One hell of a BasketBall conference!... But we digress!

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

That was not from the commissioner but the opinion of a reporter

(08-09-2022 09:59 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:56 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 04:07 PM)Milwaukee Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:31 AM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(08-05-2022 11:19 AM)TripleA Wrote:  If I can interrupt the silliness for a sec, Stewart Mandel of the Athletic has an article out saying if the new Pac expands, they would probably add SDSU and SMU.

That's probably true, but at this point that is a big "if". Personally I think SMU would fit better culturally in the ACC. They would have piers, privates tied to denominations. Plus they are closer to the east coast than they are to the west coast. And folks in the rest of the country don't like the late start times in the pacific time zone.

That may be true, but SMU is only one of several schools that the ACC might be interested in adding.

The ACC's short list could include these schools:

Memphis
SMU
Tulane
Temple
UConn
USF
Cincinnati (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
UCF (if they could be poached from the Big 12)
WVU (if they could be poached from the Big 12)

If they had their druthers, the ACC might prefer to poach one of the above schools from the Big XII.

Failing that, each of the other schools on the list above might receive serious consideration. If I had to guess, I would think that Memphis (larger, R1 university, excellent BB attendance, NCAA quality program, potential travel partner for Louisville) might have the edge over the others at this point.

.

The following is a direct quote from Jim Phillips, commissioner of the ACC. "Southern Methodist University located in Dallas is perhaps the only fit. SMU is in Dallas, the nation’s fifth-largest TV market with nearly 3 million TV sets. That will get the folks in Bristol’s attention. And Dallas is in Texas, perhaps the most hallowed of all ground for football, from little league to the NFL. And SMU is a solid academic university, ranking #68 in the US News best national colleges and universities rankings."

That was not from the commissioner but the opinion of a reporter

I still don't think that the Big XII let's the ACC or PAC come into their prime recruiting territory and plant a flag. If talks get serious then the Big XII will have to invite SMU. From an SMU perspective, to make all of this work they need Baylor/Tech/TCU/OSU fans to fill their stadium much like TCU does. The ACC or PAC can't provide that. Dollars wise, it can be made to work once the Big XII's new deal is inked. SMU can be added on after and receive a graduated payout over the length of the contract. The truth is though, none of this works without the four corner schools and that is contingent on the B1G killing off the PAC.

Most likely adds to PAC are SDSU (location in So. Cal.) and SMU (DFW metro, academics, and no longer a Church related University). But their problem is where to go from there? Are they talking to Houston? Tulane? TCU and Kansas, but those exit fees? Just can't see the Big12 inviting SMU (competition standpoint). Memphis, Boise and USF invites seem more likely to me. Big 12 would certainly be best from attendance POV for SMU, but PAC and ACC offer more prestige and uniqueness. We shall see...

(08-09-2022 11:56 AM)AusTxPony Wrote:  Most likely adds to PAC are SDSU (location in So. Cal.) and SMU (DFW metro, academics, and no longer a Church related University). But their problem is where to go from there? Are they talking to Houston? Tulane? TCU and Kansas, but those exit fees? Just can't see the Big12 inviting SMU (competition standpoint). Memphis, Boise and USF invites seem more likely to me. Big 12 would certainly be best from attendance POV for SMU, but PAC and ACC offer more prestige and uniqueness. We shall see...

I don’t see any Big 12 teams leaving unless almost all of them benefit. ESPN would have to go all out.

I said it in another thread, but ESPN could lock up all the content by giving the PAC a strong enough deal to entice 8 teams.
ISU, KSU, Kansas, OSU, Bayler, TCU, Tech and Houston.
Then they have the ACC offer WVU, Cinci and Central.

Now ESPN owns 36 teams, on either end of the nation. They can split content between networks to maximize profits. Play neutral sight games… like in LA.
There is a lot that ESPN could do to really make a stage for the PAC and ACC.

Sources reporting SMU to PAC or is it BIG or SEC?

(08-12-2022 10:11 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Sources reporting SMU to PAC or is it BIG or SEC?

AFC South

(08-12-2022 10:11 AM)doss2 Wrote:  Sources reporting SMU to PAC or is it BIG or SEC?

Source reporting package deal coming soon with ND and SMU. ND wants 80M from NBC and SMU wants 100M.

An atheist is a man who buys a ticket to the Notre Dame-SMU game and doesn’t care who wins.

-Bob Hope

(08-12-2022 10:43 AM)untitled Wrote:  An atheist is a man who buys a ticket to the Notre Dame-SMU game and doesn’t care who wins.

-Bob Hope

Now that right there is funny!!

Its nice to be wanted. Now if someone would actually ask us out, that would be swell...